Hi Rachel, Do you get what you need with
lmer(H.y.~(cond/patient)*stance + (1|subj), data=H) ? That should give you the comparison between patient groups at each level of Condition (the cond1:patient1, cond2:patient2, and cond2:patient3 that you were looking for). (And I guess it will also give interactions between those and Stance; I haven't ever run a model like that myself, though.) I'm new myself to mixed effects models and so I'm not sure if you need to do anything different from what I did to deal with the fact that your "cond" variable is between-subjects (in my data that started this thread, all the variables were within-subjects). So you may want to check about that as well. Best of luck, Steve Message: 73 Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 00:22:21 -0700 (PDT) From: semperparatus <robe0...@umn.edu> To: r-help@r-project.org Subject: Re: [R] Contrasts for 2x4 interaction in mixed effects model Message-ID: <CAN_X31jAmDXurD2bMoQJQ8W=fenc8hw8at+evjsfabvahof...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Thanks for your response. First time posting on any R forum, and apparently I didn't read carefully enough to see the difference in my model. I much appreciate the quick response. On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 2:16 AM, David Winsemius [via R] < ml-node+s789695n4642723...@n4.nabble.com> wrote: > > On Sep 10, 2012, at 5:59 PM, semperparatus wrote: > > > I want to change it because I don't want to compare in this instance > between > > conditions, but I simply want to see the contrast t-statistic between > > patient and control at every level of condition (1, 2, and 3). > > > >> From there I'd like to be able to plot the t-statistic for the contrast > > between patient and control at level 1 of conditon, level 2 of > condition, > > and level 3 of condition, each with error bars. > > > > In the post I responded to the output gave fixed effect output for > > SecA:Fir1, SecB:Fir1, SecC:Fir1, and SecD:Fir1. I'm hoping to get the > same > > sort of output but for mine it would be Cond1:Patient1, Cond2:Patient1, > > Cond3:Patient1. > > It does not appear that you have the same situation as was being discussed > earlier: > > Yours was: > > ' *When I tried using the syntax you used with my model: > lmer(H.y. ~ patient*stance*cond +(cond/patient) + (1|subj), data=H), I > got this > result, which seems to be using condition 1 as a part of the baseline. Any > idea how to change that?*' > > The other was: > > test <- lmer(Latency ~ (Nuisance1*Nuisance2) + (Sec/Fir) + (1|Subject) + > (1|Item), datatotest) > > He had separated his nuisance parameters from the 2 variables (Sec and > Fir) for which he was interested in examining contrasts. > > PLEASE learn to include context. > > > > -- > David Winsemius, MD > Alameda, CA, USA [[alternative HTML version deleted]] ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.