yes, thank you, conceptual model (rather than formal dimension attribute) is where i'm coming from at this point.
---------------------------------------- It would be helpful to distinguish between a formal dimension attribute, and a (personal) conceptual model of whether or not any particular R object, or type of object, has dimension. Mention of data frames having dimension can be found in the help page for the dim() function. > foo <- 1:10 > is.vector(foo) [1] TRUE > dim(foo) NULL > attributes(foo) NULL > str(foo) int [1:10] 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 > length(foo) [1] 10 > bah <- matrix(1:10, nrow=2) > is.vector(bah)[1] FALSE > dim(bah) [1] 2 5 > attributes(bah) $dim [1] 2 5 > str(bah) int [1:2, 1:5] 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 > length(bah) [1] 10 The vector does not have a formal dimension ("dim") attribute, but the matrix does. Regarding data frames and lists: ## ## data frame ## > junk <- data.frame(a=1:3,b=1:3) > str(junk) 'data.frame': 3 obs. of 2 variables: $ a: int 1 2 3 $ b: int 1 2 3 > attributes(junk) $names [1] "a" "b" $row.names [1] 1 2 3 $class [1] "data.frame" > dim(junk) [1] 3 2 ## ## list ## > glug <- list(a=1, b=letters[3]) > > str(glug) List of 2 $ a: num 1 $ b: chr "c" > attributes(glug) $names [1] "a" "b" > dim(glug) NULL > length(glug) [1] 2 Conceptually, I would consider data frames to have two dimensions (rows and columns). They do not have a formal "dim" attribute, but the dim() function does return a value. I personally do not think of lists as having dimension -- I never ask myself, what is the dimension of a list? But I do often enquire as to the length of a list, so might, if forced to, admit that lists have one dimension, length. But I do not think it is helpful to think of lists as having dimension. Certainly, lists do not have two dimensions. -- Don MacQueen Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory 7000 East Ave., L-627 Livermore, CA 94550 925-423-1062 On 8/16/12 11:49 AM, "Schumacher, Jay S" <j...@neo.tamu.edu> wrote: > > >hi, > i'm trying to understand r data structures. i see that vectors, >matrix, factors and arrays have a "dimension." > there seems to be no mention of dimensionality anywhere for lists or >dataframes. can i consider lists and frames to be of fixed dimension 2? >thanks, > jay s > >______________________________________________ >R-help@r-project.org mailing list >https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >PLEASE do read the posting guide >http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html >and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.