Dear Bert and Sarah,
Thank you very much for your clarifications on this matter. I will
have to study more closely the way extracting subsets of data
structures is performed, and I will change my programming habits
accordingly.
Best regards,
Paulo Barata
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From: Bert Gunter <gunter.ber...@gene.com>
To: Paulo Barata <paulo.bar...@ensp.fiocruz.br>
Cc: Frans Marcelissen <frans.marcelis...@digipsy.nl>, r-help@r-project.org,
ehl...@ucalgary.ca
Sent: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 08:06:57 -0700
Subject: {Link Suspeito} Re: [R] variable (column) in a data frame
> Inline below.
>
> -- Bert
>
> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Paulo Barata
> <paulo.bar...@ensp.fiocruz.br>wrote:
>
> >
> > Dear Frans and Peter,
> >
> > Yes, the notation df[,'var'] is able to catch a non-existent
> > variable var inside a data frame df. But the notation df$var
> > isn't.
> >
> > So we have this situation, where two different notations, which
> > (as far as I understand) perform the same action, have different
> > kinds of response.
> >
> > You don't understand far enough. Your assumption is simply not true. For
> example, from ?"[" :
>
> "The most important distinction between [, [[ and $ is that the [ can
> select more than one element whereas the other two select a single element.
>
> The default methods work somewhat differently for atomic vectors,
> matrices/arrays and for recursive (list-like, see
> is.recursive<http://127.0.0.1:25542/library/base/help/is.recursive>)
> objects. $ is only valid for recursive objects, and is only
> discussed in the section below on recursive objects."
>
> So the Help page already notes that there are differences among them.
>
> Nevertheless, your discomfort is, imo, understandable.
> Extraction/replacement for data structures is a complex business,
> and R's approach to the issues have "evolved" over time, with
> "inconsistencies," especially for edge cases, baked in. Because
> these issues are at the very core of R's behavior, I think it likely
> that except for egregious inconsistencies and outright bugs -- which
> at this point are most unlikely to exist -- it is well nigh
> impossible to change them. I see no recourse but to always check
> such edge cases carefully and to be as consistent as possible in
> your own programming usage (e.g. always using [,".."] for extracting
> columns). As Peter has pointed out several times, the $ extractor is
> convenient syntactic sugar that can get one into a lot of trouble,
> and is probably best avoided.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bert
>
> > Couldn't this situation be fixed? Isn't it possible to make the
> > df$var notation to issue an error when referring to a non-existent
> > variable inside the data frame?
> >
> > Thank you very much.
> >
> > Paulo Barata
> >
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> >
> >
> > ---------- Original Message -----------
> > From: "Frans Marcelissen" <frans.marcelis...@digipsy.nl>
> > To: "'Paulo Barata'" <paulo.bar...@ensp.fiocruz.br>, <r-help@r-project.org
> > >
> > Sent: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 14:25:21 +0200
> > Subject: RE: [R] variable (column) in a data frame
> >
> > > Hoi Pauli,
> > > There is a difference between two ways of accessing columns in a matrex:
> > > > df$aaa
> > > NULL
> > > > df["AAA"]
> > > Error in `[.data.frame`(df, "AAA") : undefined columns selected
> > > So df["AAA"] or df[,"AAA"] gives the error message you expect.
> > > -------------------
> > > Frans
> > >
> > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > Van: r-help-boun...@r-project.org [mailto:r-help-boun...@r-project.org]
> > > Namens Paulo Barata
> > > Verzonden: zondag 15 juli 2012 16:31
> > > Aan: r-help@r-project.org
> > > Onderwerp: [R] variable (column) in a data frame
> > >
> > > To the R help list,
> > >
> > > When using a data frame, there is no warning or error message when I
> > > refer to a non-existent variable inside the data frame.
> > >
> > > Example:
> > >
> > > ##----------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > a <- c(1,2,3)
> > > b <- c(11,22,33)
> > > df <- data.frame(a,b)
> > > df
> > >
> > > ## correct: there is a column in df named 'a'
> > > ## the sum is correctly performed
> > > sum(df$a==2)
> > >
> > > ## incorrect: there is no column in df named 'aaa', ## but the sum is
> > > performed anyway without either warning or error
> > > sum(df$aaa==2)
> > >
> > > ##----------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Is there some way to make R issue either a warning or an error
> > > message in such a situation?
> > >
> > > I am using R version 2.15.1 64-bit on Windows 7 Professional.
> > >
> > > Thank you very much.
> > >
> > > Paulo Barata
> > >
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