nls() often gives this message, which is misleading in that it is the Jacobian 
that is not
of full rank in the solution of  J * delta ~ - residuals  or in more 
conventional
Gauss-Newton     J' * J delta = -g = - J' * residuals. My view is that the 
gradient itself
cannot be "singular". It's just the slope of the sum of squares w.r.t. the 
parameters.

I'm separately sending you an experimental code that does get an answer. It is 
in the
package nlmrt on R-forge
https://r-forge.r-project.org/R/?group_id=395

which is under development.

Note that the I() function doesn't seem to be defined. I left it out to get an 
answer.

John Nash


On 04/11/2012 06:00 AM, r-help-requ...@r-project.org wrote:
> Message: 83
> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:03:58 -0700 (PDT)
> From: nerak13 <karen.vandep...@gmail.com>
> To: r-help@r-project.org
> Subject: [R] nls function
> Message-ID: <1334088238773-4546791.p...@n4.nabble.com>
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've got the following data:
> 
> x<-c(1,3,5,7)
> y<-c(37.98,11.68,3.65,3.93)
> penetrationks28<-dataframe(x=x,y=y)
> 
> now I need to fit a non linear function so I did:
> 
> fit <- nls(y ~ I(a+b*exp(1)^(-c * x)), data = penetrationks28, start =
> list(a=0,b = 1,c=1), trace = T)
> 
> The error message I get is:
> Error in nls(y ~ I(a + b * exp(1)^(-c * x)), data = penetrationks28, start =
> list(a = 0,  : 
>   singular gradient
> 
> I've tried to change the startervalues but it always gives the same error
> 
> I've also tried the following adjustment hoping that the c value would be
> negative:
> 
> fit <- nls(y ~ I(a+b*exp(1)^(c * x)), data = penetrationks28, start = list(a
> = 1,b = 1,c=1), trace = T)
> 
> but then the error message is: 
> Error in nls(y ~ I(a + b * exp(1)^(c * x)), data = penetrationks28, start =
> list(a = 1,  : 
>   number of iterations exceeded maximum of 50
> 
> What can I do ?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
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