To whom it may concern I made some analysis with R using the command Anova. However, I found some problmes with the output obtained by selecting type II o type III sum of squares.
Briefly, I have to do a 2x3 mixed model anova, wherein the first factor is a between factor and the second factor is a within factor. I use the command Anova in the list below, because I want to obtain also the sum of squares of the linear and quadratic contrast between the levels of the within factor. Below I report the list of commands used in R ("fattA" is the beteween factor and "fB" is the within factor): > a1b1<-c(10,9,8,7) > a1b2<-c(7,6,4,5) > a1b3<-c(3,2,3,4) > a2b1<-c(9,9,8,7) > a2b2<-c(8,7,9,7) > a2b3<-c(7,8,8,6) > > M3<-matrix(0,8,4) > M3[,1]<-cbind(a1b1,a2b1) > M3[,2]<-cbind(a1b2,a2b2) > M3[,3]<-cbind(a1b3,a2b3) > M3[,4]<-rep(c(1,2),each=4) > > colnames(M3)<-c("b1","b2","b3","fattA") > > M3<-as.data.frame(M3) > > require(car) Loading required package: car Loading required package: MASS Loading required package: nnet > f5<-lm(cbind(b1,b2,b3)~fattA,data=M3) > a5<-Anova(f5) > f6<-lm(c(b1,b2,b3)~rep(fattA,3),data=M3) > > > fB<-factor(c(1:3)) > d2<-data.frame(fB) > a6<-Anova(f5,idata=d2,idesign=~fB,type=2) > summary(a6,multivariate=F) Univariate Type II Repeated-Measures ANOVA Assuming Sphericity SS num Df Error SS den Df F Pr(>F) (Intercept) 1080.04 1 9.5833 6 676.200 2.133e-07 *** fattA 26.04 1 9.5833 6 16.304 0.006819 ** fB 42.33 2 10.6667 12 23.812 6.645e-05 *** fattA:fB 20.33 2 10.6667 12 11.438 0.001660 ** --- Signif. codes: 0 '***' 0.001 '**' 0.01 '*' 0.05 '.' 0.1 ' ' 1 Mauchly Tests for Sphericity Test statistic p-value fB 0.87891 0.7242 fattA:fB 0.87891 0.7242 Greenhouse-Geisser and Huynh-Feldt Corrections for Departure from Sphericity GG eps Pr(>F[GG]) fB 0.89199 0.0001474 *** fattA:fB 0.89199 0.0026452 ** --- Signif. codes: 0 '***' 0.001 '**' 0.01 '*' 0.05 '.' 0.1 ' ' 1 HF eps Pr(>F[HF]) fB 1.2438 6.645e-05 *** fattA:fB 1.2438 0.00166 ** --- Signif. codes: 0 '***' 0.001 '**' 0.01 '*' 0.05 '.' 0.1 ' ' 1 Warning message: In summary.Anova.mlm(a6, multivariate = F) : HF eps > 1 treated as 1 I repated the anlysis by setting type III sum of squares and I obtained: > a6<-Anova(f5,idata=d2,idesign=~fB,type=3) > summary(a6,multivariate=F) Univariate Type III Repeated-Measures ANOVA Assuming Sphericity SS num Df Error SS den Df F Pr(>F) (Intercept) 30.817 1 9.5833 6 19.294 0.004606 ** fattA 26.042 1 9.5833 6 16.304 0.006819 ** fB 40.133 2 10.6667 12 22.575 8.57e-05 *** fattA:fB 20.333 2 10.6667 12 11.438 0.001660 ** --- Signif. codes: 0 '***' 0.001 '**' 0.01 '*' 0.05 '.' 0.1 ' ' 1 Mauchly Tests for Sphericity Test statistic p-value fB 0.87891 0.7242 fattA:fB 0.87891 0.7242 Greenhouse-Geisser and Huynh-Feldt Corrections for Departure from Sphericity GG eps Pr(>F[GG]) fB 0.89199 0.0001851 *** fattA:fB 0.89199 0.0026452 ** --- Signif. codes: 0 '***' 0.001 '**' 0.01 '*' 0.05 '.' 0.1 ' ' 1 HF eps Pr(>F[HF]) fB 1.2438 8.57e-05 *** fattA:fB 1.2438 0.00166 ** --- Signif. codes: 0 '***' 0.001 '**' 0.01 '*' 0.05 '.' 0.1 ' ' 1 Warning message: In summary.Anova.mlm(a6, multivariate = F) : HF eps > 1 treated as 1 As you can see, the sum of squares of the within factor "fB" and of the intercept obtained by setting type II sum of squares are dofferent form those obtained by setting type III sum of squares. I repeated the analysis by using SPPS (type II and III) and i obtained the same sum of squares for both types., which I report below: within factor and interaction source Sum of squares (type II and III) fB 42.33333333 fB * fattA 20.33333333 Error(fattB) 10.66666667 between factor Source Sum of squares (type II and III) intercept 1080.041667 fattA 26.04166667 Error 9.583333333 The most strange thing, for me, is not only that R gives different outputs both for type II and III sum of squares, but that the output obtained with type II sum of squares in R coincides with the output obtained with type III of SPSS. As I remember, with balanced design, type II and III sum of squares should give the same output. Is there anybody that can help me about this point? thank you for your kind attention. Marco Tommasi, Ph/D. Department of Neuroscience and Imaging "G. D'Annunzio" University of Chieti-Pescara Via dei Vestini 31 66100 Chieti ITALY e-mail: marco.tomm...@unich.it </mc/compose?to=marco.tomm...@unich.it> tel.: +39 0871 3555890 / fax: + 39 0871 3554163 Web site: www.dni.unich.it [[alternative HTML version deleted]] ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.