Hi Dr Terry, Thank you for your reply.
Step(1) ----- Lets assume Generalized Poisson model (GLM) as basic model where constant hazards ratio as time goes by. Below are two correlated GLM. X_ij = Poisson( lambda_1 = \gamma * \alpha_i * \delta_j ) Y_ij = Poisson( lambda_2 = \alpha_j * \delta_i ) X_ij { 0, 1, 2 } and Y_ij { 0, 1, 2 } Where i is not equal to j , \alpha and \delta are unknown parameters. mean of production between \alpha with \delta constraint to 1 (will be random effects in below survival model) \gamma is a constant parameter (might be an intercepts in GLM) Therefore we need to make data size from n to be 2*n to get the coefficient value of \alpha and \delta , as well as \gamma. Step(2) ----- A Cox proportional hazards model. \lambda(t) = \lambda_0(t) * exp( X * \beta ) \lambda_0(t) is baseline hazards function , X is covariate , \beta is coefficient value. If I would extend static hazards ratio from Step(1) :- \lambda_1k(t) = exp( \gamma * \alpha_ik * \delta_jk ) \lambda_2k(t) = exp( * \alpha_jk * \delta_ik ) Where k is a group, and between groups are all independence. k = 1,2,3... n (n is data size in Step1) Below are fixed effects, X_ij { 0, 1, 2 } and Y_ij { 0, 1, 2 } will below 9 parameters. Then 9 coefficient values for \lambda_1(t) and also 9 for \lambda_2(t) where X_00 for both \lambda_1(t) and \lambda_2(t) as 1:- 01) hazards ratio during X_ij = 0 & Y_ij = 0 (terms as \lambda_00 with factor( X_00 )) 02) hazards ratio during X_ij = 0 & Y_ij = 1 (terms as \lambda_01 with factor( X_01 )) 03) hazards ratio during X_ij = 0 & Y_ij = 2 (terms as \lambda_02 with factor( X_02 )) 04) hazards ratio during X_ij = 1 & Y_ij = 0 (terms as \lambda_10 with factor( X_10 )) 05) hazards ratio during X_ij = 1 & Y_ij = 1 (terms as \lambda_11 with factor( X_11 )) 06) hazards ratio during X_ij = 1 & Y_ij = 2 (terms as \lambda_12 with factor( X_12 )) 07) hazards ratio during X_ij = 2 & Y_ij = 0 (terms as \lambda_20 with factor( X_20 )) 08) hazards ratio during X_ij = 2 & Y_ij = 1 (terms as \lambda_21 with factor( X_21 )) 09) hazards ratio during X_ij = 2 & Y_ij = 2 (terms as \lambda_22 with factor( X_22 )) Step(3) ----- Fit correlated random effects into proportional hazards model. Due to \lambda_1(t) = \lamda_0(t) * exp( X * \beta ) exp( Z * b ) \lambda_2(t) = \lamda_0(t) * exp( X * \beta ) exp( Z * b ) \lambda_0(t) is baseline hazards function , X are covariates include { X_00, X_01... X_22 }. b ~ N(0, A) \beta = fixed effects coef X = covariate matrix for fixed effects b= random effects coefs, Z= covariate matrix for random effects *** Question : (1) How do I fit above \gamma , \alpha and \delta as random effects? (2) Under this situation, personally believe that \gamma should be intercept where require a parametric survreg() model but not coxme(). However I am not sure am I right? Since \lambda_1(t) and \lambda_2(t) are sharing same \alpha and \delta coefficient values but only \lambda_1(t) has extra \gamma value... Thank you. Best, Ryusuke -- View this message in context: http://r.789695.n4.nabble.com/Joint-modelling-of-survival-data-tp4245397p4264703.html Sent from the R help mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.