I didn't mean the speed of saving the file is slow... I meant the manual procedures of exporting and then opening Excel, etc. is slow and inconvenient and unproductive...
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 9:38 PM, R. Michael Weylandt < michael.weyla...@gmail.com> <michael.weyla...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think what most everyone is getting at is that the visual identification > of numeric outliers is an exceedingly difficult task and one we humans are > not well evolved for. Rather they are all suggesting you use visual > techniques to spot and fix outliers individually. This practice has a long > and reputable history in statistics and has been shown to be far more > efficient than simply scanning pages of numbers for a single misplaced > decimal. In conjunction, I'd also recommend use of the identify() function, > which serves just this purpose. > > If you have so much data that the csv export is unbearably slow it seems > unlikely you can check it all by hand. > > Another, more general, methodology if you are worried about data > corruption is to use robust statistics when applicable. > > Michael > > On Dec 5, 2011, at 10:27 PM, Michael <comtech....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > In R-Studio, "edit" gives non-grid based format which is similar to > "fix"... > > > > But exporting to Excel is time-consuming... > > > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 9:17 PM, jim holtman <jholt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> 'edit' does allow you to change it. If all else fails, export to > >> Excel, split the screen and then synchronize the two displays. > >> > >> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Michael <comtech....@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> View doesn't allow editing? And not multi-window so I cannot put > >> variables > >>> side-by-side for comparsion? Thanks! > >>> > >>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 7:37 PM, jim holtman <jholt...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Have you tried > >>>> > >>>> ?View > >>>> ?edit > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Bert Gunter <gunter.ber...@gene.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> ... and do you really think perusing thousands of numbers by eye is > >>>>> any way to edit/check data?! > >>>>> > >>>>> Personal viewpoint: I would say that this is a large area of > >>>>> statistics and data analysis that the discipline fails to address in > >>>>> any systematic way ... perhaps because there is no way to address it > >>>>> systematically? Contrary views and corrections -- especially > >>>>> references! -- would be very welcome. > >>>>> > >>>>> My advice would be: graphics! -- but I can't provide anything more > >>>>> useful without the specifics of the problem. > >>>>> > >>>>> Some packages may provide the interactivity you seek -- check the > CRAN > >>>>> GUI task view, R Commander, etc. > >>>>> > >>>>> -- Bert > >>>>> > >>>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Michael <comtech....@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>>>>> head, tail and fix commands don't really work well if I have large > >>>>>> matrix/array for which I would like to be able to scroll up and dow, > >>>>>> left > >>>>>> and right ... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Could anybody please help me? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks > >>>>>> > >>>>>> [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ______________________________________________ > >>>>>> R-help@r-project.org mailing list > >>>>>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > >>>>>> PLEASE do read the posting guide > >>>>>> http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html<http://www.r-project.org/posting-guide.html> > <http://www.r-project.org/posting-guide.html> > >>>>>> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> > >>>>> Bert Gunter > >>>>> Genentech Nonclinical Biostatistics > >>>>> > >>>>> Internal Contact Info: > >>>>> Phone: 467-7374 > >>>>> Website: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >> > http://pharmadevelopment.roche.com/index/pdb/pdb-functional-groups/pdb-biostatistics/pdb-ncb-home.htm > >>>>> > >>>>> ______________________________________________ > >>>>> R-help@r-project.org mailing list > >>>>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > >>>>> PLEASE do read the posting guide > >>>>> http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html<http://www.r-project.org/posting-guide.html> > <http://www.r-project.org/posting-guide.html> > >>>>> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Jim Holtman > >>>> Data Munger Guru > >>>> > >>>> What is the problem that you are trying to solve? > >>>> Tell me what you want to do, not how you want to do it. > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Jim Holtman > >> Data Munger Guru > >> > >> What is the problem that you are trying to solve? > >> Tell me what you want to do, not how you want to do it. > >> > > > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > > > ______________________________________________ > > R-help@r-project.org mailing list > > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > > PLEASE do read the posting guide > http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html<http://www.r-project.org/posting-guide.html> > > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
