On Fri, 2 Sep 2011, Patrick Breheny wrote:

On 09/02/2011 08:48 AM, John Sorkin wrote:
I believe when using BIC one needs to compare nested models

This is wrong. Hypothesis tests rely on nested models; information criteria do not.

Actually, this is off-topic on this list. But blanket statements are often themselves untrue: there are hypothesis tests of non-nested models (most famously due to Cox, 1961), and Akaike explicitly considered only nested models in his paper introducing AIC. Certainly criteria such as AIC and BIC (in the sense of Schwarz: there are several criteria of that name) can be used with non-nested models but are much sharper tools for nested models.


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