Hello, This is mostly to developers, but in case I missed something in my literature search, I am sending this to the broader audience.
- Are there any plans in the works to make "time" classes a bit more friendly to the rest of the "R" world? I am not suggesting to allow for fancy functions to manipulate times, per se, or to figure out how to properly "add" times or anything complicated. Just some fixes to make it easier to work with the "time" classes. Here is a sampling of some strange bugs with the time classes that, to my knowledge, don't exist with any other core classes: 1. you cannot "unlist" a time without losing the class. E.g., if you unlist "2010-12-14 20:25:40" (POSIXct), you get "1292387141", at least on my OS & with my time zone. Regardless of the exact number, unlisting a time class converts it to a numeric. - upon converting to a numeric, it seems there is an underlying, assumed origin of "1970-01-01 00:00:00". However, this same assumption does not underlie the conversion *back* to a POSIX time, e.g., through as.POSIXct() function. Therefore, whenever a time is "accidentally" converted to a numeric, I have to force it back to a time through as.POSIXct(), *providing my own details* as to the origin. There is no easy way to find the underlying origin. This makes me nervous for any persistent functions I create. If the underlying origin ever changes, then all this code will be inaccurate. Maybe the origin will never change, but regardless it makes more sense to allow for the same underlying origin default for "as.POSIXct" that is used when unlisting, or similar activities that force the time into a numeric. 2. you cannot perform functions that otherwise seem trivial, such as a "max" or "min". I understand why, for instance, adding is hard. But what about max or min? Greater than or less than are possible, as is order(). I have my own simple scripts using these 2 functions in order to create a "max" & "min" for times, but it would be nice to have something vetted & official. If others could chime in with any strange behaviors they've seen in working with times, maybe we could get a critical mass of issues that are worthy of an overhaul. Thanks & Regards, Mike "Telescopes and bathyscaphes and sonar probes of Scottish lakes, Tacoma Narrows bridge collapse explained with abstract phase-space maps, Some x-ray slides, a music score, Minard's Napoleanic war: The most exciting frontier is charting what's already here." -- xkcd -- Help protect Wikipedia. Donate now: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Support_Wikipedia/en [[alternative HTML version deleted]] ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.