Enjoyed it very much! -----Original Message----- From: r-help-boun...@r-project.org [mailto:r-help-boun...@r-project.org] On Behalf Of Tal Galili Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 5:31 PM To: jaropis Cc: r-h...@stat.math.ethz.ch; lig...@statistik.tu-dortmund.de; da...@revolutionanalytics.com Subject: Re: [R] R Founding
Hello dear Jaroslaw, I strongly agree with you that the R foundation should have an easier method of enabling people to give donations. At the same time, I feel there is a (friendly) disagreement between us on how such money should be used. Your massage has inspired me to write a post on the topic, titles: "Open source and money why R developers shouldnt be paid<http://www.r-statistics.com/2010/09/open-source-and-money-why-r-develop ers-shouldnt-be-paid/> " I hope you, and other community members, would find interest in it. Best, Tal ----------------Contact Details:------------------------------------------------------- Contact me: tal.gal...@gmail.com | 972-52-7275845 Read me: www.talgalili.com (Hebrew) | www.biostatistics.co.il (Hebrew) | www.r-statistics.com (English) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:49 PM, jaropis <jaro...@zg.home.pl> wrote: > A few days ago Tal Galili posted a message about some controversies > concerning the future of R. Having read the discussions, especially > those following Ross Ihaka's post, I have come to the conclusion, > that, as usual, the problem is money. I doubt there would be > discussions about dropping R in its present form if the R-Foundation > were properly funded and could hire computer scientists, programmers > and statisticians. If a commercial company is able to provide > big-database and multicore solutions, then so would a properly founded > R-Foundation. > > In my opinion the main reason for the lack of funding is that the > Foundation does not want to accept it from users and waits for the > likes of Google to bring them a sack of money. I have already posted > about this, but this seems to be the time and place to repeat it: it > is very difficult to donate anything to the R-Foundation. First you > have to find the appropriate link at the r-project page, then you have > to fill out a form and send or fax it to the Foundation. I am not > comfortable sending my details over snail-mail or fax. > > I would GLADLY donate 30-50$ each year just to see R develop, but > there needs to be a way for me to do it in a civilized manner. If the > userbase of R is over 2 million there will surely be 100,000 users > who, like myself, will happily fork out 40$ a year - would that help? > you can do the calculation yourselves. Set up a donation page in which > I will be able to pay by credit card or PayPal and you will start > getting donations from individual users. Advertise this at the startup > message of the program: say something like "support us at > www.suppoRtR.com" and the money will start coming. I am sure there > would be enough to employ some foundation members full-time, pay > external CSs and even protect the system in court from those who make > money off of somebody else's work and do not give back to the community (you know who I am talking about). > > R and the Foundation have helped a lot of us to do our research and > make real money. Now give us a chance to help you! > > > Regards > Jaroslaw Piskorski > > ______________________________________________ > R-help@r-project.org mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide > http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.