I wonder if those who complain about SAS as a programming environment have discovered SAS/IML which provides a programming environment akin to Matlab which is more than capable (at least for those problems which can be treated with a matrix like approach). As someone who uses both SAS and R - graphical output is so much easier in R, but for handling large 'messy' datasets SAS wins hands down... Cheers Rob
*** Want to know about Britain's birds? Try www.bto.org/birdfacts *** Dr Rob Robinson, Senior Population Biologist British Trust for Ornithology, The Nunnery, Thetford, Norfolk, IP24 2PU Ph: +44 (0)1842 750050 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fx: +44 (0)1842 750030 W: http://www.bto.org ==== "How can anyone be enlightened, when truth is so poorly lit" ===== > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey J. Hallman > Sent: 16 January 2008 22:38 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [R] things that are difficult/impossible to do > in SAS or SPSSbut simple in R > > SAS has no facilities for date arithmetic and no easy way to > build it yourself. In fact, that's the biggest problem with > SAS: it stinks as a programming environment, so it's always > much more difficult than it should be to do something new. > As soon as you get away from the canned procs and have to > write something of your own, SAS falls down. > > I don't know enough about SPSS to comment. > -- > Jeff > > ______________________________________________ > [email protected] mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide > http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > ______________________________________________ [email protected] mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.

