--- begin included message I am running R 2.6.1 on windows xp I am trying to fit a cox proportional hazard model with a shared Gaussian frailty term using coxme My model is specified as:
nofit1<-coxme(Surv(Age,cen1new)~ Sex+bo2+bo3,random=~1|isl,data=mydat) With x1-x3 being dummy variables, and isl being the community level variable with 4 levels. Does anyone know if there is a way to get the standard error for the random effect, like in nofit1$var? I would like to know if my random effect is worth writing home about. -- end included message Computation of the se of the random effect turns out to be very hard, and worse it isn't worth much when you have done so. For both these reasons coxme doesn't even try (and it's not on the list of things to add). First, you can do a likelihood ratio test by comparing the fit to a coxph model that does not have the random effect. Make sure that the null loglikelihood for the two fits are the same though! (For instance, one obs was missing the "isl" variable above, so the two fits have differnt n). fit1<- coxme(Surv(Age,cen1new)~ Sex+bo2+bo3,random=~1|isl, data=mydat) fit2<- coxph(Surv(Age,cen1new)~ Sex+bo2+bo3, data=mydat) fit1$loglik[1:2] - fit2$loglik The first number printed should be 0, twice the second is distributed as a chisq on "number of random effects" degrees of freedom. (Not quite. The chisq test is actually conservative since the random effect is constrained to be >=0. But it is close, and I'll let someone else work out the details) Second, you can print a profile likelihood confidence interval. You had a random effects variance of about .4, so make a guess that the confidence interval is somewhere between 0 and 2. vtemp <- seq(0.0001, 2, length=20) ltemp <- 0*vtemp for (i in 1:length(vtemp)) { tfit <- coxme(Surv(Age,cen1new)~ Sex+bo2+bo3,random=~1|isl, data=mydat, variance= vtemp[i]) ltemp <- 2 * diff(tfit$loglik[1:2]) } plot(vtemp, ltemp, xlab='Variance', ylab="LR test") abline(h= 2*diff(fit1$loglik[1:2]) - 3.84) The sequence of fits each have a fixed value for the variance of the random effect; the plot shows the profile likelihood. The profile is often very asymmetric (which is why the se of the random effect isn't worth much). The intersection of the profile with a line 3.84 units down (chisq on 1df) is the profile based 95% confidence interval. Terry Therneau ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.