On 1/29/2006 1:29 PM, Prof Brian Ripley wrote: > On Sun, 29 Jan 2006, Marc Schwartz wrote: > >> I would argue against this. >> >> If this were the default, that is requiring user interaction, it would >> break a fair amount of code that I (and I am sure a lot of others have) >> where automation is critical. > > I don't see how. The current default is > >> read.table() > Error in read.table() : argument "file" is missing, with no default > > so the only change is that the default might do something useful. > > Nor do I see the change would help, as the same people would still use a > character string for 'file' and not omit the argument. (It seems very > unlikely that they would read any documentation that suggested things had > changed.)
No, but people teaching new users (or answering R-help questions) would have a simpler answer: just use read.table(). > The same issue could be made over scan(), where the current default is > useful. scan() is very useful for small reads, and rarely needed for reading big formatted files, so I wouldn't propose to change it. The inconsistency with read.table would be unfortunate, but no worse than the current one. >> A lot of the issues seem to be user errors, file permission errors, >> hidden extensions as is pointed out below and related issues. If there >> is a legitimate bug in R resulting in these issues, then let's patch >> that. However, I don't think that I can recall reproducible situations >> where a bug in R is the root cause of these problems. > > Nor I. > > Note that file.choose does not protect you against file permission issues > (actually, on a command-line Unix-alike it does nothing much useful at > all): > >> readLines(file.choose()) > Enter file name: errs.txt No, it's not helpful here, but again it makes things no worse, and there's always the possibility that someone would improve file.choose(). Duncan Murdoch > Error in file(con, "r") : unable to open connection > In addition: Warning message: > cannot open file 'errs.txt', reason 'Permission denied' > > but > >> file.show(file.choose()) > says > > NO FILE errs.txt > > which is not a good idea (and I will improve). > > So this would really only have any effect on GUI platforms, for people who > read the documentation. > > >> Best regards, >> >> Marc Schwartz >> >> On Sun, 2006-01-29 at 12:18 -0500, Duncan Murdoch wrote: >>> (Moved from R-help). >>> >>> This comes up often enough that I'm starting to think most functions >>> that take filename arguments should have file.choose() as the default >>> value. Then one could do >>> >>> read.table() >>> >>> and have a dialog box pop up in Windows, or some other prompt for a >>> filename in other platforms. Are there any obviously bad side effects >>> from a change like this? >>> >>> Duncan Murdoch >>> >>> On 1/29/2006 11:51 AM, Peter Dalgaard wrote: >>>> Romain Francois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>>> >>>>> Le 29.01.2006 16:26, oliver wee a écrit : >>>>> >>>>>> hello, I have just started using R for doing a project >>>>>> in time series... >>>>>> >>>>>> unfortunately, I am having trouble using the >>>>>> read.table function for use in reading my data set. >>>>>> >>>>>> This is what I'm getting: >>>>>> I inputted: >>>>>> data <- >>>>>> read.table("D:/Oliver/Professional/Studies/Time Series >>>>>> Analysis/spdc2693.data", header = TRUE) >>>>>> >>>>>> I got: >>>>>> Error in file(file, "r") : unable to open connection >>>>>> In addition: Warning message: >>>>>> cannot open file 'D:/Oliver/Professional/Studies/Time >>>>>> Series Analysis/spdc2693.data', reason 'No such file >>>>>> or directory' >>>>>> >>>>>> as I am just a novice programmer, I really would >>>>>> appreciate help from you guys. Is there a need to >>>>>> setpath in R, like in java or something like that... >>>>>> >>>>>> I am using the windows version btw. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have also tried to put the file in the work >>>>>> directory of R, so that I only typed >>>>>> data <- read.table("spdc2693.data", header = TRUE) >>>>>> Again, it won't work, with the same error message. >>>>>> >>>>>> I would appreciate any help. thanks again. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Hi, try : >>>>> >>>>> read.table(file.choose(), header=TRUE) >>>>> >>>>> and go to your file. >>>>> Also, you can look a ?setwd, ?getwd >>>> Right. Or just file.choose() and see what the OS thinks your file is >>>> really called. The most common causes for symptoms like that are >>>> >>>> (A) The file is "spcd2693.data" >>>> (B) There's an extra extension which ever helpful Windows decided to >>>> hide, as in "spdc2693.data.txt". >>>> >>>> >>> ______________________________________________ >>> R-devel@r-project.org mailing list >>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel >> ______________________________________________ >> R-devel@r-project.org mailing list >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel >> >> > ______________________________________________ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel