Les Mikesell wrote:

On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 16:47, Charlie Brady wrote:
Please stop feeding the troll. If we wanted to use sendmail, we'd use sendmail. We don't want to talk about it on this list.

If Les has some improvements to make to qpsmtpd, then I'm sure they'd be welcome. But I've seen him on lists for quite a few years, and I don't remember ever seeing code from him. Perhaps that's why his domain is futuresource.com.

Sorry, most lists aren't so hostile to the mention of things
invented elsewhere. Perhaps something about qmail code affects
people's attitudes.  I haven't done much coding for a long time
but you might find my name (possibly misspelled) in attributions
on some old things that nobody cares about anymore. I'm not that
good at it and it's been more productive to avoid customizing
things as much as possible.


You are definitely discussing something that was invented elsewhere. Mainly you are talking about qmail and sendmail. This is (as far as I know) not a qmail or sendmail list. As far as I know, the people on this list are MTA-neutral in relation to this project.

Speaking for myself, the reason why I am irritated with your continuation of this thread is that the crux of your argument (as I understand it) is:

Why are you using qpsmtpd with qmail/postfix? I find them complex and insufficient for my needs. You can do the same thing with sendmail and mimedefang. Sendmail is better and simpler. What you are doing is a waste of time and you should do what I want you to do. I will now continue to discuss something that does not have relevance to your project (sendmail vs. qmail)


Did you mean something else? I would be more than happy for you to discuss writing a sendmail-queue plugin for qpsmtpd that will allow it to work in a sendmail environment, or to discuss getting mimedefang working with qpsmtpd. Those topics are definitely appropriate, and I (for one) would welcome them.

All you seem to be doing is arguing senndmail vs. qmail. If you want to do that, move this thread to the qmail or sendmail mailing lists.

Sorry, Charlie, I couldn't resist.

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