qmail Digest 7 May 2001 10:00:00 -0000 Issue 1357
Topics (messages 62012 through 62034):
Multiple user with vpopmail
62012 by: Sebastien VIEILLARD
Re: dialup setup
62013 by: Gavin McCord
62015 by: Robin S. Socha
62019 by: Chris Corbettis
62021 by: Chris Corbettis
sender Domain
62014 by: Clemens Hermann
rcpthosts default allow all ?
62016 by: D. Cook
62017 by: David Talkington
62018 by: Greg White
62020 by: D. Cook
62022 by: Adam McKenna
Re: POP3 Cluster
62023 by: Karsten W. Rohrbach
62032 by: Russ Allbery
Migrating qmail between hosts
62024 by: Mike Hodson
Newbie
62025 by: peter.milburn.sofcom.com.au
62026 by: Rick Updegrove
mails not deleing
62027 by: QmailList
62029 by: Robin S. Socha
62030 by: Jason Brooke
62031 by: Frank Tegtmeyer
unscribution
62028 by: ms7.url.com.tw
Re: Can MX record be CNAME?
62033 by: Peter Peltonen
62034 by: Peter van Dijk
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I'am an isp and i want to use vpopmail for any site installed on server.
The problem is that any site have one specific unix user. and of course, any user have
a limited quota.
But vpopmail create mailbox for only one unix user (vpopmail user by default).
Is anybody know, what i can do to have each mailbox ~vpopmail/domains/domainename,
under specific unix user.
thx
On 2001.05.05 22:37 Chris Corbettis wrote:
> Can anyone here point me to some documentation on setting up
> qmail+fetchmail over a dialup line?
> I know this is quite simple; I found a decent howto on Google's cache
> (the original not being available) some time ago and it worked perfectly.
> It covered everything I needed, installing qmail and it's required
> programs, creating pppdir, ip-up.local etc.
> Frankly looking at the LDP HOWTO is worse than useless.
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris Corbettis
>
www.lifewithqmail.org
The qmail.org site is not short of links either.
--
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(Monty Python play The Usual Suspects.)
* Gavin McCord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010506 08:23]:
> On 2001.05.05 22:37 Chris Corbettis wrote:
> > Can anyone here point me to some documentation on setting up
> > qmail+fetchmail over a dialup line?
> www.lifewithqmail.org
... points to http://cr.yp.to/serialmail.html which is not exactly
overly helpful in setting serialmail up :-)
> The qmail.org site is not short of links either.
TOISP and FROMISP in the source tarball should do. IMVHO they should be
renamed to INSTALL.TOISP... ;-)
Robin S. Socha wrote:
> * Gavin McCord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010506 08:23]:
>
>> On 2001.05.05 22:37 Chris Corbettis wrote:
>>
>>> Can anyone here point me to some documentation on setting up
>>> qmail+fetchmail over a dialup line?
>>
>> www.lifewithqmail.org
>
>
> .... points to http://cr.yp.to/serialmail.html which is not exactly
> overly helpful in setting serialmail up :-)
>
>> The qmail.org site is not short of links either.
>
>
> TOISP and FROMISP in the source tarball should do. IMVHO they should be
> renamed to INSTALL.TOISP... ;-)
>
>
>
useless - really, most of that stuff is for someone setting up a server
environment.
And yes, qmail.org is short of links, look at it again and maybe search
through for the keywords, "PPP", "DIALUP"!
Someone wrote up a 1 page guide just solely for dialup (ppp) usage, you
know, just to set it up, I'll read up on the whole man page stuff some
other day.
Back to Google it is then...
Chris
Robin S. Socha wrote:
> * Gavin McCord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010506 08:23]:
>
>> On 2001.05.05 22:37 Chris Corbettis wrote:
>>
>>> Can anyone here point me to some documentation on setting up
>>> qmail+fetchmail over a dialup line?
>>
>> www.lifewithqmail.org
>
>
> .... points to http://cr.yp.to/serialmail.html which is not exactly
> overly helpful in setting serialmail up :-)
>
>> The qmail.org site is not short of links either.
>
>
> TOISP and FROMISP in the source tarball should do. IMVHO they should be
> renamed to INSTALL.TOISP... ;-)
>
>
>
Seconds later -
http://www.logicalshift.org.uk/unix/internet/
Under the title "Offline mailing"
Now I have to ask why isn't this information linked to from qmail.org?
somebody, please link it!
Is it that unreasonable to ask for just the bare facts to getting qmail
setup for a simple workstation? I don't think so, personally I could
care less about the minutae, just as long as it works and works elegantly.
Again, someone please link to this page from the qmail.org, I only just
managed to find it after hours of fruitless searching and I'm sure I'm
not alone.
Thanks
Chris
HI,
is there a way to only accept Mails that have one of my local/virtual Domains
either as sender or as recepient? I do not want to make relaying based
on this because I use smtp-auth and there it is possible to send mails
to otherdomain1.tld as sender otherdomain2.tld.
I just want to prevent people who have a valid account from using my server
to send mails with different adresses than the one that are hosted from me.
tia
/ch
Hi all,
I can't find the syntax for /var/qmail/control in the manual. Please
bear with me.
What's the syntax for allowing all by default in rcpthosts and only
selected hosts are banned? Something like
allow all
reject *.online-sex.com
Thanks.
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D. Cook wrote:
>I can't find the syntax for /var/qmail/control in the manual. Please
>bear with me.
'man qmail-control' will point you in the right direction.
>What's the syntax for allowing all by default in rcpthosts and only
>selected hosts are banned? Something like allow all reject
>*.online-sex.com
I personally find Hoffmann's spamcontrol patch to be much more
flexible in this regard: http://www.fehcom.de/qmail/qmail_en.html.
It adds a wealth of options, including new /control files, and even
updated man pages.
G'luck. -d
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On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 08:42:10AM -0700, D . Cook wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I can't find the syntax for /var/qmail/control in the manual. Please
> bear with me.
As said, try 'man qmail-control'.
>
> What's the syntax for allowing all by default in rcpthosts and only
> selected hosts are banned? Something like
> allow all
> reject *.online-sex.com
Are you really sure this is what you want to do? Setting up a domain in
rcpthosts means 'I want to recieve mail _for_ this domain', not 'I want
to recieve mail _from_ this domain'. If one could actually set up
rcpthosts the way you are asking, you would be placed in ORBS and RSS
faster than you could say 'open relay'. This is a Very Bad Idea(tm).
If you need assistance with selective relay, start here:
http://cr.yp.to/qmail/faq/servers.html#authorized-relay
You can 'ban' the sites you want by IP address using ':deny' in place of
':allow' in tcprules. You can ban specific envelope senders with
/var/qmail/control/badmailfrom. There are also some spamcontrol patches,
see:
http://www.qmail.org/qmail/top.html#spam
>
> Thanks.
>
NP. I noticed the first reply to your message mentioned the spamcontrol
patches, but did not point out the implied error in your thinking.
Please feel free to flame away if I misunderstood your question, but it
does imply a misunderstanding of the nature of 'rcpthosts' and selective
relay. HTH,
--
Greg White
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent
revolution inevitable.
-- John F. Kennedy
Oops. I actually wanted only to be able to send mails OUT to every host
except what is banned. I failed to grep control man page to understand
what is required to accomplish above. I only found out by specifying
the domain in rcpthosts I could send mails to that domain. Could you
please point out the exact what-to-do in man page? Thank you.
qmail-control(5) Headers, Tables, and Macros qmail-control(5)
NAME
qmail-control - qmail configuration files
INTRODUCTION
You can change the behavior of the qmail system by modifying
qmail's control files in /var/qmail/control.
qmail can survive with just one control file, me, containing
the fully-qualified name of the current host. This file is
used as the default for other hostname-related control
files.
Comments are allowed in badmailfrom, locals, percenthack,
rcpthosts, smtproutes, and virtualdomains. Trailing spaces
and tabs are allowed in any control file.
The following table lists all control files other than me.
See the corresponding man pages for further details.
control default used by
badmailfrom (none) qmail-smtpd
bouncefrom MAILER-DAEMON qmail-send
bouncehost me qmail-send
concurrencylocal 10 qmail-send
concurrencyremote 20 qmail-send
defaultdomain me qmail-inject
defaulthost me qmail-inject
doublebouncehost me qmail-send
doublebounceto postmaster qmail-send
envnoathost me qmail-send
helohost me qmail-remote
idhost me qmail-inject
localiphost me qmail-smtpd
locals me qmail-send
percenthack (none) qmail-send
plusdomain me qmail-inject
queuelifetime 604800 qmail-send
rcpthosts (none) qmail-smtpd
recipientmap (none) qmail-send
smtpgreeting me qmail-smtpd
smtproutes (none) qmail-remote
timeoutconnect 60 qmail-remote
timeoutremote 1200 qmail-remote
timeoutsmtpd 1200 qmail-smtpd
virtualdomains (none) qmail-send
SEE ALSO
qmail-inject(8), qmail-remote(8), qmail-send(8), qmail-
showctl(8), qmail-smtpd(8)
On Sun, 6 May 2001 09:54:11 -0700
Greg White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 08:42:10AM -0700, D . Cook wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I can't find the syntax for /var/qmail/control in the manual. Please
> > bear with me.
>
> As said, try 'man qmail-control'.
> >
> > What's the syntax for allowing all by default in rcpthosts and only
> > selected hosts are banned? Something like
> > allow all
> > reject *.online-sex.com
>
> Are you really sure this is what you want to do? Setting up a domain in
> rcpthosts means 'I want to recieve mail _for_ this domain', not 'I want
> to recieve mail _from_ this domain'. If one could actually set up
> rcpthosts the way you are asking, you would be placed in ORBS and RSS
> faster than you could say 'open relay'. This is a Very Bad Idea(tm).
>
> If you need assistance with selective relay, start here:
>
> http://cr.yp.to/qmail/faq/servers.html#authorized-relay
>
> You can 'ban' the sites you want by IP address using ':deny' in place of
> ':allow' in tcprules. You can ban specific envelope senders with
> /var/qmail/control/badmailfrom. There are also some spamcontrol patches,
> see:
>
> http://www.qmail.org/qmail/top.html#spam
>
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> NP. I noticed the first reply to your message mentioned the spamcontrol
> patches, but did not point out the implied error in your thinking.
> Please feel free to flame away if I misunderstood your question, but it
> does imply a misunderstanding of the nature of 'rcpthosts' and selective
> relay. HTH,
>
>
> --
> Greg White
> Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent
> revolution inevitable.
> -- John F. Kennedy
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 11:40:16AM -0700, D. Cook wrote:
> Oops. I actually wanted only to be able to send mails OUT to every host
> except what is banned. I failed to grep control man page to understand
> what is required to accomplish above. I only found out by specifying
> the domain in rcpthosts I could send mails to that domain. Could you
> please point out the exact what-to-do in man page? Thank you.
>
> qmail-control(5) Headers, Tables, and Macros qmail-control(5)
Qmail doesn't do what you want to do. If you do what you say you intend to
do, you will effectively make your host an open relay. This is NOT the way
to control spam with qmail. Various ways of controlling spam with qmail are
already very well documented, so stop spamming the list with stupid
questions and copies of the man pages.
--Adam
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Steve Kennedy([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2001.05.05 19:08:32 +0000:
> You could also use EMC storage as a back-end, not cheap but very
> flexible and reliable.
emc is good as long as it runs. if some pice fails those boxes are gonna
fsck forever...
/k
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Karsten W Rohrbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Steve Kennedy([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2001.05.05 19:08:32 +0000:
>> You could also use EMC storage as a back-end, not cheap but very
>> flexible and reliable.
> emc is good as long as it runs. if some pice fails those boxes are gonna
> fsck forever...
Huh? What are you talking about?
About the only drawback to EMC is that it's insanely expensive. And I
really mean it when I say insane. It's incredibly reliable, though;
dual-redundant systems from end to end, at least in the Symmetrix. (The
Clarion products are very different and not really the same sort of
storage.)
--
Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>
Hello
I am undertaking a project to migrate my domain (mystica.cx) between 2 servers.
What are the recommended steps (aside from compilation / configuration of
qmail/vpopmail/courier imap, on the second server)to preserve emails and not
lose any in the process? I use imap almost exclusively, but other users use
pop3 for email. The domain is a vpopmail virtual domain on the first server,
so can I just tar/bz2 up the hosting dir, or should I load rsync for the next
few days to keep any mail that shows up on the first server going to the second
while DNS propagates?
Any hints will be helpful
Thanks
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Mike Hodson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hey all, I am trying to get qmail to work with MRTG, I am at a complete
loss here
I have qmail runing with daemon tools, at present I have to qmail
servers, with the qmail log being sent to one machine, do I need to run
qmailanalog on each machine.
If anyone can help, it would be great,
Thanks,
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Systems Manager
Software Communication Group Ltd
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South Yarra, Vic 3141
www.sofcom.com.au
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----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 8:53 PM
Subject: Newbie
> Hey all, I am trying to get qmail to work with MRTG, I am at a complete
> loss here
> If anyone can help, it would be great,
https://mail.socha.net/stats/ has a downloadable mrtg.cfg file if that helps.
I used it : )
Rick Up
|
Hi All there
I am using qmail+vpopmail on RH 6.2 linux with
Maildir
I want how mail client are treated when conneting
to qmail pop server
Because my pop client are complaining of ,Their
mails are not get delete
when the internet connection is loss while
downloading the mail and all the
mail comes again when they
reconnect,
Kindly help me out of it
Regards
|
* QmailList <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010507 00:18]:
Your mail is quite annoyingly formatted: http://learn.to/edit_messages/.
> I am using qmail+vpopmail on RH 6.2 linux with Maildir
>
> I want how mail client are treated when conneting to qmail pop server
Depends on the client software used. Imagine the following:
mutt: "Hi, qmail-pop3d, it's me..."
qmail-pop3d: "Hi there, here, have some mail..."
OTOH, using Neanderthal Technology, the following dialogue is also
possible:
Outlook Express: "We are Mircosoft of Borg. Your standards will be
assimilated. RFCs are futile."
qmail-pop3d: "RTFM, luser... *PLONK*"
> Because my pop client are complaining of ,Their mails are not get delete
>
> when the internet connection is loss while downloading the mail and all the
>
> mail comes again when they reconnect,
What exactly did you expect? Do you want to delete mail that has not yet
been downloaded?
> Your mail is quite annoyingly formatted: http://learn.to/edit_messages/.
poor baby
keep crying those mailing list tears - I'm sure you really do believe you're
doing your part
> Outlook Express: "We are Mircosoft of Borg. Your standards will be
> assimilated. RFCs are futile."
> qmail-pop3d: "RTFM, luser... *PLONK*"
Every copy of Outlook Express I've used collects email from qmail-pop3d just
fine. Maybe I should try gnus? a-frobnicating into the apparently
in-grokkable(?) we shall go
jason
"QmailList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> when the internet connection is loss while downloading the mail and all the
> mail comes again when they reconnect,
This is the correct behaviour. Mail will be deleted when the client
sends the QUIT command to the server. If the connection is lost before
the mails will still be there.
Your clients may set up their POP clients so, that they only download
unread mail, so they don't get duplicates. This still leaves the mail
at the server (bad for you) and it slows down the downloading
process. This is not good for flaky connections.
Possibly you should provide compressed UUCP transfers with batch sizes
below 5k. This could be more reliable.
Regards, Frank
Markus Stumpf wrote:
> The funny thing about this whole thread is that the source of all
> problems is probably a lousy provider, that doesn't care for PTR
> delegations. So why don't you get yourself a caring one?
Actually, they do care about them, but aren't that happy to make them. And I
don't like to be dependent on them and would like to fix things myself.
Here is another question to keep this hilarous thread alive:
Is there any relationship with the MX record and qmail's control/me variable.
If they are different, will it cause any trouble? I suppose not, but one can
never be sure enough...
Regards,
Peter
On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 11:04:52AM +0300, Peter Peltonen wrote:
[snip]
> Here is another question to keep this hilarous thread alive:
Please stop this thread.
> Is there any relationship with the MX record and qmail's control/me variable.
> If they are different, will it cause any trouble? I suppose not, but one can
> never be sure enough...
There is no relation. This is a feature.
Greetz, Peter.
