qmail Digest 2 Mar 2001 11:00:01 -0000 Issue 1291
Topics (messages 58127 through 58214):
Re: logging alternatives to qmail-pop3d and checkpassword
58127 by: Gjermund Sorseth
58129 by: OHIRA, Shinya
messages staying in the queue...
58128 by: Fr�d�ric Bel�teau
58149 by: Dave Sill
58153 by: Greg White
Re: amavis or qmail-scanner ?
58130 by: Rainer Link
Re: Qmail - to slow?
58131 by: Peter van Dijk
58132 by: Thomas K�nig
58133 by: Peter van Dijk
58137 by: Federico Edelman Anaya
58138 by: Thomas K�nig
Where do I find the logs
58134 by: Andrew Wafula
58145 by: Charles Cazabon
58159 by: David Dyer-Bennet
58163 by: John P
58166 by: Claudio Nieder
58171 by: Dave Sill
58208 by: Andrew Wafula
Re: Scalable Mail Solution
58135 by: Rob Hines Jr.
58136 by: william f guyton jr
58151 by: Jonathan J. Smith
58160 by: Sean Chittenden
Redirect e-mails to 'root'
58139 by: John P
58140 by: Frank Tegtmeyer
58141 by: Frank Tegtmeyer
58144 by: Frank Tegtmeyer
58148 by: John P
Re: procmail problems (RH6.2) SOLVED (?)
58142 by: Joe Janitor
58150 by: Dave Sill
58152 by: Joe Janitor
Re: Relay-ctrl and qmail: problem more fundamental, I think
58143 by: Charles Cazabon
Re: Lost the Battle
58146 by: Dave Sill
58147 by: Mark Delany
58173 by: Einar Bordewich
58204 by: Lincoln Yeoh
Re: Relay test
58154 by: Russell Nelson
Re: unsubcribe
58155 by: Russell Nelson
Some newbies issue
58156 by: Jason Benedict Low
58157 by: Claudio Nieder
58158 by: Matthew Patterson
_lots_ of repeat messages
58161 by: dan kelley
Re: Solved! <NOVICE> no mailbox here by that name...Feh
58162 by: Ken Corey
Password options
58164 by: Richard Lyon
58169 by: Matthew Patterson
58178 by: Peter van Dijk
POP accounts??
58165 by: rocael.usa.net
58168 by: Matthew Patterson
58172 by: Claudio Nieder
Qmail and time zone
58167 by: Kari Suomela
58175 by: Kari Suomela
58176 by: Peter van Dijk
58177 by: David Dyer-Bennet
58179 by: Martin Akesson
58180 by: Martin Akesson
58181 by: Peter van Dijk
58182 by: Kari Suomela
58183 by: Martin Akesson
58184 by: Greg White
58186 by: Andy Bradford
58188 by: Kari Suomela
58194 by: Kari Suomela
58195 by: Kari Suomela
58196 by: David Dyer-Bennet
58197 by: Charles Cazabon
58199 by: Chris Bolt
58200 by: Kari Suomela
58201 by: David Dyer-Bennet
58202 by: David Dyer-Bennet
58203 by: Kari Suomela
58205 by: David Dyer-Bennet
58207 by: Petri Kaukasoina
various timeouts
58170 by: Michael Boyiazis
procmail fix (or replacement?)
58174 by: Chris Kurtz
Thanks & Mailing List Problems!
58185 by: schoon.amgt.com
Re: relay-ctrl and qmail (it's finally working!)
58187 by: Bill
[vmailmgr] email to virtual user bounces
58189 by: Joe Janitor
(no subject)
58190 by: Dan Hobbs
Re: qmail 2.0 exploit
58191 by: Jason Brooke
58192 by: Jason Brooke
58210 by: Ian Lance Taylor
58213 by: Jason Brooke
Re: [vmailmgr] virtual alias can't receive mail SOLVED
58193 by: Joe Janitor
OpenBSD 2.8 and sqwebmail
58198 by: Chris
Problem receiving mail.
58206 by: Grant
qmail-pop3d problem
58209 by: Duncan MacMillan
Problems with qmailanalog
58211 by: Todd A. Jacobs
Problem starting the service!! supervise: fatal: unable to acquire log/supervise/lock:
temporary failure
58212 by: Hatem
virtual domain & procmail
58214 by: Agi Subagio
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> Can someone help me to find logging alternatives to qmail-pop3d and
> checkpassword?
>
> Jörgen
On my system, I've added some code to qmail-pop3d.c to make it log
the clients username and IP address to syslog every time a user quits.
Here is the extra code:
/* Add syslog logging
*/
static void log_summary()
{
#include <syslog.h>
extern char **environ;
char **p;
char *user, *ip;
/* TCPREMOTEIP is inherited from tcpserver.
*/
for (p = environ; *p && strncmp(*p, "TCPREMOTEIP=", 12) != 0; ++p);
ip = (*p) ? (*p + 12) : "0.0.0.0";
/* USER is inherited from checkpassword.
* Make sure that USER is not already set when tcpserver starts.
*/
for (p = environ; *p && strncmp(*p, "USER=", 5) != 0; ++p);
user = (*p) ? (*p + 5) : "unknown";
openlog("qmail-pop3d", 0, LOG_MAIL);
syslog(LOG_INFO, "%s %s", ip, user);
closelog();
}
static void log_and_die() { log_summary(); die(); }
....Then substitute log_and_die() for die() in the pop3_quit() function.
--
Gjermund Sorseth
J gen_Persson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>$B!!(Bwrote:
> Can someone help me to find logging alternatives to qmail-pop3d and
> checkpassword?
>
> J gen
http://www.ornl.gov/its/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/1998/08/msg00896.html
--Shinya
Hi ...
i'm quite novice with qmail, i have set up a qmail server with vpopmail
i worked on my qmail server yesterday, and some messages went in the queue
when my system wasn't well configured to deliver them ...
now i can send and receive messages correctly but these messages stay in the
queue !
1) how could i do, a recursive touch ?
i tried find . * -print -exec touch , that's wrong... what's the missing
magic word for giving the found file as argument ? $ ? ... ???
2) an other dark point i missunderstand is the relaycontrol, i defined a
rcpthosts file, when qmail run with it, it can't deliver messages locally
even if local virtualdomains are defined in it, answering theses domains are
not in my rcpthosts when i try to send msg! it would mean my qmail-send
reads the rcpthosts file ? i had a look on the big qmail picture and that's
not working the same ... when i delete this rcpthosts file, everything work
well then but i get troubles with spammers then !
many thanks for answers !
Fred.
"Frédéric Beléteau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>i'm quite novice with qmail, i have set up a qmail server with vpopmail
>i worked on my qmail server yesterday, and some messages went in the queue
>when my system wasn't well configured to deliver them ...
>now i can send and receive messages correctly but these messages stay in the
>queue !
Only until it's time for qmail-send to retry them.
>1) how could i do, a recursive touch ?
Wrong question. Send qmail-send an ALRM signal to have immediately
retry everything in the queue.
>i tried find . * -print -exec touch , that's wrong... what's the missing
>magic word for giving the found file as argument ? $ ? ... ???
find . * -print -exec touch {} \;
>2) an other dark point i missunderstand is the relaycontrol, i defined a
>rcpthosts file, when qmail run with it, it can't deliver messages locally
>even if local virtualdomains are defined in it, answering theses domains are
>not in my rcpthosts when i try to send msg!
Post the output of qmail-showctl and one of the bounce messages.
>it would mean my qmail-send reads the rcpthosts file ?
Nope. Only qmail-smtpd reads rcpthosts.
-Dave
On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 12:14:11PM +0100, Frédéric Beléteau wrote:
> Hi ...
>
SNIP
> 1) how could i do, a recursive touch ?
> i tried find . * -print -exec touch , that's wrong... what's the missing
> magic word for giving the found file as argument ? $ ? ... ???
This has nothing to do with qmail, but try, um, 'man find'? It's there,
honest. 'find . -type f -exec touch {} \; '
>
> 2) an other dark point i missunderstand is the relaycontrol, i defined a
> rcpthosts file, when qmail run with it, it can't deliver messages locally
SNIP
Possibly the most FAQ in the FAQ... If using Dan's docs, included in the
distro, read the FAQ on relay. If using Life with qmail, read LWQ again,
more carefully.
> many thanks for answers !
> Fred.
>
HTH,
--
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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent
revolution inevitable.
-- John F. Kennedy
Jérémy Cluzel wrote:
> 1) as virus-scanner ? amavis or qmail-scanner ? both seem to work
> fine...
I've replied to you directly and added Jason Haar into CC, so he can
correct me if I made a wrong assumption. :-) Hopefully I do not need a
dozen of bodyguards ;-)))
> 2) as antivirus ? H+BEDV AntiVir, AVP, Sophos Sweep,or McAfee
> ViruScan ? I used avp for a while (and I find it very efficient), but
> doesn't know the other ones...
Well, Kaspersky Labs ships Kaspersky AntiVirus (AVP) for qmail. For a
product comparison please visit www.av-test.org - they do comparisons of
Linux products, too.
HTH
best regards,
Rainer Link
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On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 11:33:29AM +0100, Thomas König wrote:
[snip]
> qmail (standard tgz file with only the qmail-date-localtime patch) is
> compiled with:
> conf-split = 300
That conf-split is ridiculous. It is way higher than necessary, *and*
it is not prime.
> conf-spawn = 255
>
> /var/qmail/bin:
> concurrencylocal = 30
> concurrencyremote = 100
You might want to up concurrencyremote a lot :)
> Now I has tried to send a Newsletter to 180.000 subscribers. The system
> needs 5 1/2 hours
> for delivery( 9 mails per second), but I mean it's to long?!
> The average bandwich during the delivery is 70k-100k it's to slightly for an
> 100mbit Connection.
>
> If I look for qmail processes, ther are only 3-5 qmail-remote processes.
> netstat -an show me 100-200 socket connections to smpt servers on port 25.
> vmstat shows an average idle time between 65%-78%.
> memory use is ca. 200 MB, swap is untouched.
>
> What can I do, for higher performance?
Apply the big-concurrency patch, use ezmlm for your mailinglist.
> Have I errors in my configuration?
Yes, your conf-split is broken.
Greetz, Peter.
Hi,
thanks for your answer.
Which values are right for my problem?
--
tom
On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 02:30:37PM +0100, Thomas König wrote:
> Hi,
>
> thanks for your answer.
>
> Which values are right for my problem?
conf-split should be 23 unless you have *really* good reasons to
change it.
Greetz, Peter.
Do you have installed the daemontools? how do you logging? syslog? multilog?
Bye!
Thomas König wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have been setup a linux-box PII/450, 256MB RAM, 4 GB IDE HDD, 100mbit
> bandwitch
> with RehHat 6.2, qmail 1.03 + ezmlm-idx with MySQL + vpopmail.
>
> qmail (standard tgz file with only the qmail-date-localtime patch) is
> compiled with:
> conf-split = 300
> conf-spawn = 255
>
> /var/qmail/bin:
> concurrencylocal = 30
> concurrencyremote = 100
>
> Now I has tried to send a Newsletter to 180.000 subscribers. The system
> needs 5 1/2 hours
> for delivery( 9 mails per second), but I mean it's to long?!
> The average bandwich during the delivery is 70k-100k it's to slightly for an
> 100mbit Connection.
>
> If I look for qmail processes, ther are only 3-5 qmail-remote processes.
> netstat -an show me 100-200 socket connections to smpt servers on port 25.
> vmstat shows an average idle time between 65%-78%.
> memory use is ca. 200 MB, swap is untouched.
>
> What can I do, for higher performance?
> Have I errors in my configuration?
>
> --
> thomas koenig
Yes, I have installed daemontools-0.53. I use tcpserver, logging via cyclog.
/etc/rc.d/init.d/qmail:
echo -n "Starting: "
env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:/usr/local/bin" \
qmail-start ./Maildir/ /usr/local/bin/accustamp \
| /usr/local/bin/setuser qmaill /usr/local/bin/cyclog /var/log/qmail &
echo -n "qmail "
env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:/usr/local/bin" \
tcpserver -H -R -l$HOSTNAME -c30 0 pop-3 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup
\
$HOSTNAME \
/home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir &
echo -n "pop "
env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:/usr/local/bin" \
tcpserver -H -R -l$HOSTNAME -x /home/vpopmail/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -c30
\
-u503 -g502 0 smtp \
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 2>&1 > /dev/null &
echo "smtp"
--
tom
Hi,
I did a migration from Sendmail to Qmail and now I don't know where to find
the logs. previously they were in /var/log/maillog but now it seems they are
split up under the /var/log/qmail directory (or so I think).
I need to look at the logs from time to time but i just cant seem to find
them.
Andrew
Andrew Wafula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I did a migration from Sendmail to Qmail and now I don't know where to find
> the logs. previously they were in /var/log/maillog but now it seems they are
> split up under the /var/log/qmail directory (or so I think).
> I need to look at the logs from time to time but i just cant seem to find
> them.
It depends how you installed qmail. Check how you're calling qmail-start.
Charles
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"Andrew Wafula" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi,
>
> I did a migration from Sendmail to Qmail and now I don't know where to find
> the logs. previously they were in /var/log/maillog but now it seems they are
> split up under the /var/log/qmail directory (or so I think).
> I need to look at the logs from time to time but i just cant seem to find
> them.
Are you logging via multilog? If so, there's a directory somewhere
with the file "current" in it that contains the current log (the one
being written to right now) and probably (if you've had it up long
enough to roll to additional log files) files with names rather like
@400000003a8bf1aa33d789ac.s
@400000003a8c1ee106d5040c.s
@400000003a8cb8c72584e19c.s
@400000003a8d8c130207ff24.s
@400000003a8ee3b217506fec.s
@400000003a90ad7a24735644.u
@400000003a90c3cd0b5ae604.u
which represent old log files.
"Somewhere" is controlled by how you start things. Are you running
qmail-send supervised under svscan? Then the log directory is
described in the supervise directory.
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From: David Dyer-Bennet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Are you logging via multilog? If so, there's a directory somewhere
> with the file "current" in it that contains the current log (the one
> being written to right now) and probably (if you've had it up long
> enough to roll to additional log files) files with names rather like
>
> @400000003a8bf1aa33d789ac.s
> @400000003a8c1ee106d5040c.s
> @400000003a8cb8c72584e19c.s
> @400000003a8d8c130207ff24.s
> @400000003a8ee3b217506fec.s
> @400000003a90ad7a24735644.u
> @400000003a90c3cd0b5ae604.u
> which represent old log files.
Is there an easy way to convert these filenames to dates etc. (or any
sequential coding eg. messages.0, messages.1 etc) for past reference?
Manually typing each filename doesn't sound fun. Why does multilog store it
this way?
Thanks
John
Hi,
> Is there an easy way to convert these filenames to dates etc. (or any
$ ls @* | awk '{ print $1" "$1 }' | tai64nlocal
2001-03-01 01:37:43.797816500.s @400000003a9d99f72f8db6b4.s
2001-03-01 12:23:38.729794500.s @400000003a9e315a2b7fc7c4.s
2001-03-01 12:40:21.697936500.s @400000003a9e35452999aa74.s
2001-03-01 15:01:18.184211500.s @400000003a9e564e0afad82c.s
2001-03-01 16:16:05.419022500.s @400000003a9e67d518f9c6a4.s
2001-03-01 16:57:46.746902500.s @400000003a9e719a2c84d3e4.s
2001-03-01 17:45:59.996518500.u @400000003a9e7ce73b65aa64.u
2001-03-01 20:06:52.296409500.s @400000003a9e9dec11aad99c.s
2001-03-01 20:09:49.077417500.s @400000003a9e9e9d049d4c1c.s
The name is the creation time of the file, so in the above case
the first file will contain logs older than 2001-03-01 01:37:43
claudio
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"John P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Manually typing each filename doesn't sound fun.
Use a shell that implements filename completion.
>Why does multilog store it this way?
Guaranteed unique and self documenting.
-Dave
Thanks,
I get them now. Is it possible to log the qmail-pop3d in the same way?
Andrew
-----Original Message-----
From: David Dyer-Bennet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 9:39 PM
To: Qmail
Subject: Re: Where do I find the logs
"Andrew Wafula" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi,
>
> I did a migration from Sendmail to Qmail and now I don't know where to
find
> the logs. previously they were in /var/log/maillog but now it seems they
are
> split up under the /var/log/qmail directory (or so I think).
> I need to look at the logs from time to time but i just cant seem to find
> them.
Are you logging via multilog? If so, there's a directory somewhere
with the file "current" in it that contains the current log (the one
being written to right now) and probably (if you've had it up long
enough to roll to additional log files) files with names rather like
@400000003a8bf1aa33d789ac.s
@400000003a8c1ee106d5040c.s
@400000003a8cb8c72584e19c.s
@400000003a8d8c130207ff24.s
@400000003a8ee3b217506fec.s
@400000003a90ad7a24735644.u
@400000003a90c3cd0b5ae604.u
which represent old log files.
"Somewhere" is controlled by how you start things. Are you running
qmail-send supervised under svscan? Then the log directory is
described in the supervise directory.
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In short, yes, there are Terrabyte solutions, they start in the several
hundred thousand range, and go up according to what you need. Many
companies that do that sort of volume use load balancers (layer 7
usually), and several machines clustered together. I don't see any
reason qmail couldn't handle that volume of users, but you're talking
about some serious equipment costs, at least in the very high hundreds
of thousands of dollars.
The short answer to the question about what would happen if 2.5 million
users hit your PIII server at once. In a word: *poof*
Check out:
http://www.f5.com
(f5 Load balancers are cool, Foundry also makes some good gear, I forget
the URL)
http://www.nthgencomp.com/
(Terabyte arrays)
http://www.sun.com/
(Servers that won't blow up under that load and Terabyte arrays)
Hope that helps.
Rob
Tim Hassan wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have used Qmail for over 3 years now and I love it. Now I have came across
> one project, building a Mail server to handle around 5-6 million users with
> a 10 meg mailbox each (I use vpopmail www.inter7.com for the pop server and
> virtual domain part). Now multiplying 10MB x 5000000 users = 50million megs,
> which is about 50,000 gigs. Is their such a thing as a 50 terrabyte hard
> drive? Well, my users are all in one domain, so I cannot split the domains
> across several HDD's. Secondly, what if 2 1/2 million users simultaneously
> hit the server, would the server handle it? with a quad p-III Xeon 1ghz and
> 4 GB or ram and a OC connection.
> Well, how does hotmail or yahoo do it? I am sure they load blanace across
> multiple servers, but how?
> I know all about load balancing with dns, etc. across multiple web servers
> for example, but with mail, a specific user has to login to the same box
> that hosts his mailbox everytime, and mail arriving from outside world to
> this user has to arrive to the same box also.
> If anyone out there has gone through something like this, I would appreciate
> it a lot if you hint me with a clue :)
>
> P.S. Please cc me your reply, as I am not subscribed to the list.
>
> Best Regards,
> Tim
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Rob Hines Jr. wrote:
> In short, yes, there are Terrabyte solutions, they start in the several
> hundred thousand range, and go up according to what you need. Many
> companies that do that sort of volume use load balancers (layer 7
> usually), and several machines clustered together. I don't see any
> reason qmail couldn't handle that volume of users, but you're talking
> about some serious equipment costs, at least in the very high hundreds
> of thousands of dollars.
>
> The short answer to the question about what would happen if 2.5 million
> users hit your PIII server at once. In a word: *poof*
>
> Check out:
>
> http://www.f5.com
> (f5 Load balancers are cool, Foundry also makes some good gear, I forget
> the URL)
>
> http://www.nthgencomp.com/
> (Terabyte arrays)
>
> http://www.sun.com/
> (Servers that won't blow up under that load and Terabyte arrays)
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Rob
>
> Tim Hassan wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have used Qmail for over 3 years now and I love it. Now I have came across
>> one project, building a Mail server to handle around 5-6 million users with
>> a 10 meg mailbox each (I use vpopmail www.inter7.com for the pop server and
>> virtual domain part). Now multiplying 10MB x 5000000 users = 50million megs,
>> which is about 50,000 gigs. Is their such a thing as a 50 terrabyte hard
>> drive? Well, my users are all in one domain, so I cannot split the domains
>> across several HDD's. Secondly, what if 2 1/2 million users simultaneously
>> hit the server, would the server handle it? with a quad p-III Xeon 1ghz and
>> 4 GB or ram and a OC connection.
>> Well, how does hotmail or yahoo do it? I am sure they load blanace across
>> multiple servers, but how?
>> I know all about load balancing with dns, etc. across multiple web servers
>> for example, but with mail, a specific user has to login to the same box
>> that hosts his mailbox everytime, and mail arriving from outside world to
>> this user has to arrive to the same box also.
>> If anyone out there has gone through something like this, I would appreciate
>> it a lot if you hint me with a clue :)
>>
>> P.S. Please cc me your reply, as I am not subscribed to the list.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Tim
>
www.foundrynetworks.net, I am using the serveriron XL 16
"Rob Hines Jr." wrote:
>
> In short, yes, there are Terrabyte solutions, they start in the several
> hundred thousand range, and go up according to what you need. Many
> companies that do that sort of volume use load balancers (layer 7
> usually), and several machines clustered together. I don't see any
> reason qmail couldn't handle that volume of users, but you're talking
> about some serious equipment costs, at least in the very high hundreds
> of thousands of dollars.
>
> The short answer to the question about what would happen if 2.5 million
> users hit your PIII server at once. In a word: *poof*
>
> Check out:
>
> http://www.f5.com
> (f5 Load balancers are cool, Foundry also makes some good gear, I forget
> the URL)
>
Foundry Networks is:
http://www.foundrynetworks.com/
Some very good solid equipment.
> http://www.nthgencomp.com/
> (Terabyte arrays)
>
> http://www.sun.com/
> (Servers that won't blow up under that load and Terabyte arrays)
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Rob
Jonathan Smith
> The short answer to the question about what would happen if 2.5 million
> users hit your PIII server at once. In a word: *poof*
Bad things happen, little gremlins come out of the wood work and data
starts to disappear.
> Check out:
>
> http://www.f5.com
> (f5 Load balancers are cool, Foundry also makes some good gear, I forget
> the URL)
I highly recommend this! ArrowPoint looks really neat, but
I've never used it (http://www.arrowpoint.com/).
> http://www.nthgencomp.com/
> (Terabyte arrays)
Very expensive, same with EMC, and Network Appliances. If you
haven't budgeted for $1M (or some large portion thereof), then you may
want to look at setting something close to the following up:
Internet
->
BIG-IP
->
First row of MX servers that forward to a large number 2nd
level mail servers using fastforward. All cdb files synced across the
front row servers, built on a regular time interval (once a minute)
from a database.
-> (use qmtp, qmqp if possible)
Second row of MX servers w/ IMAP, pop3, web access,
etc. that get user data off of an NFS server (use Maildir) format.
Use a quasi-dynamic DNS setup (recommend TinyDNS) to figure out where
to look for user Maildirs (username-host.mail.domain.com), and set the
TTLs to 5 seconds.
->
NFS servers - work horses that do nothing but serve Maildir data
via NFS w/ big raid drives.
> http://www.sun.com/
> (Servers that won't blow up under that load and Terabyte arrays)
http://www.freebsd.org/
Not to start anything, really, but I've run FreeBSD servers w/
an average load of 80-120 for years w/o them crashing or giving me
problems (where a Solaris E450 box folded, put its tails between its
legs, and walked away sniveling after days of configuration tweaks).
Linux: nice. Sun: better. FreeBSD: arrived at Mecca.
Motto: Design distributed with large numbers to scale quickly
and cheaply. BIG-IP and FreeBSD are your friends.
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I need to redirect e-mail to root to another e-mail address (local).
I created a /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-root containing ' john ' but qmail still
attempts to deliver messages to root.
The reason I need to do this is as follows: (I may be doing something
wrong?)
- Our server handles mail for office.domain.com (this value is in 'me')
- However all our public e-mail addresses are [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the
machine at domain.com forwards selected e-mail addresses onto
[EMAIL PROTECTED] for users to get (with the rest being picked up by
pop3 from domain.com as a general 'customer service' address)
- To ensure that our local users can send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I removed
'domain.com' from 'locals' and 'rcpthosts' (otherwise they were being
bounced)
- This works OK, but messages to root (cron et al) get delivered to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] which isn't under our control (domain.com is our webserver)
so I don't get to see them. This is why I want to forward them.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
John
> I created a /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-root containing ' john ' but qmail still
> attempts to deliver messages to root.
Put
&john
into the file (without the spaces).
Frank
> - Our server handles mail for office.domain.com (this value is in 'me')
> - This works OK, but messages to root (cron et al) get delivered to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] which isn't under our control (domain.com is our webserver)
> so I don't get to see them. This is why I want to forward them.
Hm. This doesn't fit. Please pove the output of qmail-showctl.
Regards, Frank
> Please pove the output of qmail-showctl.
Oh I'm a silly-billy. I guess I need some sleep :)
I meant "give" or "post".
Frank
> > - Our server handles mail for office.domain.com (this value is in 'me')
>
> > - This works OK, but messages to root (cron et al) get delivered to
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] which isn't under our control (domain.com is our
webserver)
> > so I don't get to see them. This is why I want to forward them.
>
> Hm. This doesn't fit. Please pove the output of qmail-showctl.
>
And I've just realised that any messing about with root@ forwards won't
work.. as it's not delivering to local root anyway.
Here's qmail-showctl (a very useful feature isn't it!) May as well give up
on the domain hiding, I trust you all :-)
(plus I probably posted it before somewhere!)
The machine 'office.internal' is portfowarded to (SMTP/POP-3) from our
firewall which has the external name 'office.mobiletones.com' hence the
different names in there. BIND is set up to map all office.internal
addresses correctly.
qmail home directory: /var/qmail.
user-ext delimiter: -.
paternalism (in decimal): 2.
silent concurrency limit: 120.
subdirectory split: 23.
user ids: 501, 502, 503, 0, 504, 505, 506, 507.
group ids: 501, 502.
badmailfrom: (Default.) Any MAIL FROM is allowed.
bouncefrom: (Default.) Bounce user name is MAILER-DAEMON.
bouncehost: (Default.) Bounce host name is office.mobiletones.com.
concurrencylocal: (Default.) Local concurrency is 10.
concurrencyremote: (Default.) Remote concurrency is 20.
databytes: (Default.) SMTP DATA limit is 0 bytes.
defaultdomain: Default domain name is office.internal.
defaulthost: Default host name is mobiletones.com.
doublebouncehost: (Default.) 2B recipient host: office.mobiletones.com.
doublebounceto: (Default.) 2B recipient user: postmaster.
envnoathost: (Default.) Presumed domain name is office.mobiletones.com.
helohost: (Default.) SMTP client HELO host name is office.mobiletones.com.
idhost: (Default.) Message-ID host name is office.mobiletones.com.
localiphost: (Default.) Local IP address becomes office.mobiletones.com.
locals:
Messages for pluto.office.internal are delivered locally.
Messages for office.mobiletones.com are delivered locally.
Messages for localhost are delivered locally.
me: My name is office.mobiletones.com.
percenthack: (Default.) The percent hack is not allowed.
plusdomain: Plus domain name is office.internal.
qmqpservers: (Default.) No QMQP servers.
queuelifetime: (Default.) Message lifetime in the queue is 604800 seconds.
rcpthosts:
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at pluto.office.internal.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at office.mobiletones.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at localhost.
morercpthosts: (Default.) No effect.
morercpthosts.cdb: (Default.) No effect.
smtpgreeting: (Default.) SMTP greeting: 220 office.mobiletones.com.
smtproutes: (Default.) No artificial SMTP routes.
timeoutconnect: (Default.) SMTP client connection timeout is 60 seconds.
timeoutremote: (Default.) SMTP client data timeout is 1200 seconds.
timeoutsmtpd: (Default.) SMTP server data timeout is 1200 seconds.
virtualdomains: (Default.) No virtual domains.
defaultdelivery: I have no idea what this file does.
default: I have no idea what this file does.
controlbackup: I have no idea what this file does.
tain64local: I have no idea what this file does.
I made some modifications to the homedir files:
$HOME/.qmail now has
| preline /usr/bin/procmail -m /home/joe/.procmailrc
(the -m file was previously mis-named)
and $HOME/.procmailrc has
PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin:$PATH
ORGMAIL=$HOME/Mailbox
MAILDIR=$HOME/mail
DEFAULT=$HOME/Mailbox #completely optional
LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/procmail.log
Does this mean I have to have these two files in
every home directory!? And does it also mean that any
user can screw his mail up by accidentally deleting
these files? I have to say, though this works, I'm not
particularly comfortable with it...
Joe
--- Joe Janitor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm having trouble with qmail and procmail. I've
> read
> the FAQ and the list archives, but am still unsure
> what
> to do. I'm using a Linux RedHat 6.2 system.
>
> installed qmail.
> outgoing mail works.
> incoming mail (from outside) bounces (unknown user)
> local mail won't be delivered, i.e....
> when I try (from the machine in question):
> $ mail joe
> Subject: testing
> testing
> .
> Cc:
> $
>
> I end up with /var/spool/mail/joe (a symlink to
> /home/joe/Mailbox) being
> renamed as BOGUS.joe.1jLB and a new FILE called
> /var/spool/mail/joe
> containing the "testing" message.
>
> I read in INSTALL.mbox the following:
> A few mail programs are unable to handle symbolic
> links, so you will
> have to configure them to look at ~user/Mailbox
> directly:
> * procmail: Change SYSTEM_MBOX in config.h and
> recompile; or, with
> recent versions, define MAILSPOOLHOME in
> src/authenticate.c.
>
> but I don't know where to find config.h or
> authenticate.c... do I have to download the procmail
> source and recompile after these edits? (There has
> to
> be an easier way!)
>
> I tried adding ~joe/.qmail-test1 containing:
> |preline procmail -m /home/awilber/.procmailrc
> and ~joe/.procmail containing
> PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin:$PATH
> ORGMAIL=$HOME/Mailbox
> MAILDIR=$HOME/mail
> DEFAULT=$HOME/Mailbox #completely optional
> LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/procmail.log
>
> this didn't work.
>
> I'm lost.
>
> Thanks,
> Joe
>
> __________________________________________________
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Joe Janitor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I made some modifications to the homedir files:
>
>$HOME/.qmail now has
>| preline /usr/bin/procmail -m /home/joe/.procmailrc
>
>(the -m file was previously mis-named)
>
>and $HOME/.procmailrc has
>PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin:$PATH
>ORGMAIL=$HOME/Mailbox
>MAILDIR=$HOME/mail
>DEFAULT=$HOME/Mailbox #completely optional
>LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/procmail.log
>
>Does this mean I have to have these two files in
>every home directory!?
No. First, procmail doesn't need the -m flag. See the procmail section
in LWQ:
http://www.lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html#procmail
Also, if you want delivery via procmail to be the default, specify
that on the qmail-start command line, or in the
control/defaultdelivery file if you installed using LWQ.
Finally, you can specify a systemwide default procmailrc in
/etc/procmailrc.
>And does it also mean that any
>user can screw his mail up by accidentally deleting
>these files? I have to say, though this works, I'm not
>particularly comfortable with it...
You can't really save your users from themselves...
-Dave
--- Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Joe Janitor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I made some modifications to the homedir files:
> >
> >$HOME/.qmail now has
> >| preline /usr/bin/procmail -m
> /home/joe/.procmailrc
> >
> >(the -m file was previously mis-named)
> >
> >and $HOME/.procmailrc has
> >PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin:$PATH
> >ORGMAIL=$HOME/Mailbox
> >MAILDIR=$HOME/mail
> >DEFAULT=$HOME/Mailbox #completely optional
> >LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/procmail.log
> >
> >Does this mean I have to have these two files in
> >every home directory!?
>
> No. First, procmail doesn't need the -m flag. See
> the procmail section
> in LWQ:
>
> http://www.lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html#procmail
>
> Also, if you want delivery via procmail to be the
> default, specify
> that on the qmail-start command line, or in the
> control/defaultdelivery file if you installed using
> LWQ.
I think I was already doing this, my
/etc/rc.d/init.d/qmail script called qmail-start
'|preline procmail' splogger qmail &
> Finally, you can specify a systemwide default
> procmailrc in
> /etc/procmailrc.
I read about that, but since that file didn't already
exist on my system, I wondered if it would be looked
for at all (if I created it). I never got around to
testing it.
> >And does it also mean that any
> >user can screw his mail up by accidentally deleting
> >these files? I have to say, though this works, I'm
> not
> >particularly comfortable with it...
>
> You can't really save your users from themselves...
But you can make it harder for them to auto-hank...
In any case, I've since downloaded the procmail
source, edited src/authenticate.c to include
#define MAILSPOOLHOME "/Mailbox"
and recompiled.
Now it works great without any $HOME/.qmail or
$HOME/.procmailrc or /etc/procmailrc
Thanks for writing.
Joe
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Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail.
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Bill Isaacs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> At the risk of sounding really stupid, do I need to invoke BOTH the
> corrected script (minus the qmail-smtpd part) AND the old one (pop-3, etc.)?
> In other words, will I have two tcpserver scripts, one invoking the pop-3
> and the other the qmail smtpd?
If I remember your setup, yes. Think of tcpserver as a meta-daemon --
it binds to one TCP port on your machine and accepts connections. For each
connection, it spawns a specified program which reads and writes data from
and to that connection. Therefore, if you want to use it for two different
ports (different services, like SMTP and POP3), you need to run two
different instances of tcpserver.
> As I said, I am a complete newbie with email and no great shakes with much
> of this stuff to begin with. I hope you folks aren't getting to tired of
> answering these dumb questions.
This list generally doesn't tire of questions from people who are willing
to do some work, experiment, and report honest results. If you want to
help yourself further, I would recommend reading everything at cr.yp.to,
especially concerning ucspi-tcp, daemontools, and qmail, as well as
everything linked to from www.qmail.org.
Charles
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>My qmail project, only 1 week away from implementation, was canned, we are
>now moving to Lotus Notes.
Well, it's not a total loss. At least you learned something about
qmail.
-Dave
On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 10:19:34AM -0500, Dave Sill wrote:
> >My qmail project, only 1 week away from implementation, was canned, we are
> >now moving to Lotus Notes.
>
> Well, it's not a total loss. At least you learned something about
> qmail.
And maybe you can convince your company to use qmail as your email
relay server on the firewall. Use Notes internally in a protected
environment and only expose qmail to that nasty world out there.
Sure you could expose your Notes server to the Internet, but do you
really want to with all that company data so close at hand?
Sure you could also buy a seperate Notes server and license just as a
firewall box, but is that cost effective and is it the most secure
choice?
Regards.
Dennis,
I'm strongly advice you to keep fighting for your qmail as a frontend out to
internet. IDG use notes all over the world, and of course from time to time
there is problems related to third-party relaying. This is with R5 peace of
cake to take care of, but it has to be done since it's not enabled as
default.
At IDG in norway, we use qmail as a frontend. One of the reasons is that IDG
New Media is an ISP, and we do need the flexibility that qmail and it's
modularity offers.
Using qmail as the frontend, relaying for the notes server works flawlessly
through the firewall only allowing the qmailservers through the fw.
hope this gives you new fighting spirit ;-)
regards
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----- Original Message -----
From: "dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 12:44 AM
Subject: Lost the Battle
> Hi all...
>
> For the past 3 weeks I have been fighting the battle to move our dieing
> email server from a proprietary solution to qmail. I had devoted 3 months
of
> research and development (with a lot of help from this list) to making
sure
> that the qmail server has all the features required by our organization.
>
> My nightmare began when management announced a new business development
> manager.
>
> My qmail project, only 1 week away from implementation, was canned, we are
> now moving to Lotus Notes.
>
> I'd like to thank everyone for there help over the 3 months, without you
> guys, I don't think I could have even taken the project this far.
>
> Regards
> Dennis
>
>
At 03:24 PM 01-03-2001 +0000, Mark Delany wrote:
>On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 10:19:34AM -0500, Dave Sill wrote:
>> >My qmail project, only 1 week away from implementation, was canned, we are
>> >now moving to Lotus Notes.
>>
>> Well, it's not a total loss. At least you learned something about
>> qmail.
>
>And maybe you can convince your company to use qmail as your email
>relay server on the firewall. Use Notes internally in a protected
>environment and only expose qmail to that nasty world out there.
Yah, that's very similar to what I'm doing. qmail on the firewall.
qmail doesn't do a lot of what Notes does, so if they really want those
stuff, then yeah Notes could be a good choice.
Thing is I'm not sure that qmail would really protect mailservers behind
the firewall from the usual buffer overflow stuff.
For example, if an attacker sends a mail with a huge GMT field, will it
still go through qmail unfiltered? I get the impression that qmail does
very little reprocessing of the message.
Of course you can't protect mailservers totally, but I figure one could
make a pretty good try with the obvious cases (typical buffer overflows,
validation checks etc).
Maybe I could make a filtering module and stick it in after qmail-smtpd or
something.
Cheerio,
Link.
Paco Martinez writes:
> Relay test result
> Hmmn, at first glance, host appeared to accept a message for relay.
> THIS MAY OR MAY NOT MEAN THAT IT'S AN OPEN RELAY.
>
>
> As you see "Test 9" shows that my PC has a security hole !!!!
Hello, Paco. Could you please translate "THIS MAY OR MAY NOT MEAN THAT
IT'S AN OPEN RELAY" into your native language? Obviously it's not
sufficient to say it in English with capital letters.
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Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | --Daniel J. Bernstein
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> unsubcribe
If I wrote "unsubcribe" to the qmail mailing list, would it
unsubscribe me any better than if I wrote "unsubscribe"?
Hint: Try sending requests for a LIST running on a HOST to
LIST-request@HOST. This is never the wrong thing to do.
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Hi,
Kindly excuse me if my problem is stupid or if it's not related. I'm
first-timer setting up a Mail server and i choose qmail instead of
Sendmail as qmail have the add-on i luv.
Hope you pple out here can help me and THANKS in Advance.
My system: Linux (Turbolinux ver 6.1) (no sendmail installed) (installed
qmail-1.03)
I don't have own DNS and Static IP. I subscribe to hn.org. i'm using
Maildir format.
qmail running:-
Following TEST.deliver
(test using qmail-inject)
1) tested local to local SUCCESSFULL.
2) tested local to error SUCCESSFULL.
3) tested local to remote SUCCESSFULL.
4) tested local to POSTmaster SUCCESSFULL.
5) tested Double-bounce SUCCESSFULL.
Following TEST.recieve
(via SMTP)
1) tested local to local SUCCESSFULL.
2) tested local to remote SUCCESSFULL.
3) tested remote to local NOT SUCCESSFULL.
Due to i'm first time setting up such server i do not know what when
wrong. i try sending [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]
from my pacific.net.sg (ISP) account both mails bounced back to my
pacific.net.sg pop account.
I do understand that i need to set MX in DNS under Netphuture.com Zone
file, but i do not know i do it rightly or not. I want to have my
SMTP/POP3 known as mail.netphuture.com and user email address as ie.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Here my hn.org Dynamic service setting:-
=======================================================================
Rec FQDN Rec Type Rec Value DynDNS MX Pref
=======================================================================
netphuture.com NS ns1.hn.org 0 0
netphuture.com NS aux1.hn.org 0 0
www.netphuture.com CNAME netphuture.com 0 0
netphuture.com A netphuture.hn.org 1 0
mail.netphuture.com CNAME netphuture.com 0 0
netphuture.com MX mail.netphuture.com 0 10
========================================================================
Please help me. I've installed qmail twice to figure out and read
through lots of FAQ and mailing archive this whole months Feb'01. No
doubt i found lots of other knowlegde but i still can't get the Remote
to local (TEST.recieve) to work. That's why i suspect my setting of MX
could be the core issue of it.
Sorry for the long message here.
Regards.
Jason Benedict Low
***One's success is not because of oneself but is given by others****
Hi,
> Due to i'm first time setting up such server i do not know what when
> wrong. i try sending [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> from my pacific.net.sg (ISP) account both mails bounced back to my
The bounce messages could help in determine what was the problem.
> netphuture.com MX mail.netphuture.com 0 10
$ dnsmx netphuture.com
10 mail.netphuture.com
$ dnsip mail.netphuture.com
202.156.122.40
$ telnet 202.156.122.40 25
Trying 202.156.122.40...
Here I don't get any response. If you want to receive mail, your host
needs to be permanently connected to the Internet and listening to
port 25 for incoming mail. Is qmail-smtpd running ?
claudio
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On Thu, 01 Mar 2001, Jason Benedict Low wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Kindly excuse me if my problem is stupid or if it's not related. I'm
>first-timer setting up a Mail server and i choose qmail instead of
>Sendmail as qmail have the add-on i luv.
>
>Hope you pple out here can help me and THANKS in Advance.
>
>My system: Linux (Turbolinux ver 6.1) (no sendmail installed) (installed
>qmail-1.03)
>
>I don't have own DNS and Static IP. I subscribe to hn.org. i'm using
>Maildir format.
>
>qmail running:-
>
>Following TEST.deliver
>(test using qmail-inject)
>
>1) tested local to local SUCCESSFULL.
>2) tested local to error SUCCESSFULL.
>3) tested local to remote SUCCESSFULL.
>4) tested local to POSTmaster SUCCESSFULL.
>5) tested Double-bounce SUCCESSFULL.
>
>Following TEST.recieve
>(via SMTP)
>
>1) tested local to local SUCCESSFULL.
>2) tested local to remote SUCCESSFULL.
>3) tested remote to local NOT SUCCESSFULL.
>
>Due to i'm first time setting up such server i do not know what when
>wrong. i try sending [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>from my pacific.net.sg (ISP) account both mails bounced back to my
>pacific.net.sg pop account.
>
>I do understand that i need to set MX in DNS under Netphuture.com Zone
>file, but i do not know i do it rightly or not. I want to have my
>SMTP/POP3 known as mail.netphuture.com and user email address as ie.
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Here my hn.org Dynamic service setting:-
>=======================================================================
>Rec FQDN Rec Type Rec Value DynDNS MX Pref
>=======================================================================
>
>netphuture.com NS ns1.hn.org 0 0
>
>netphuture.com NS aux1.hn.org 0 0
>
>www.netphuture.com CNAME netphuture.com 0 0
>
>netphuture.com A netphuture.hn.org 1 0
>
>mail.netphuture.com CNAME netphuture.com 0 0
>
>netphuture.com MX mail.netphuture.com 0 10
>========================================================================
>
>Please help me. I've installed qmail twice to figure out and read
>through lots of FAQ and mailing archive this whole months Feb'01. No
>doubt i found lots of other knowlegde but i still can't get the Remote
>to local (TEST.recieve) to work. That's why i suspect my setting of MX
>could be the core issue of it.
>
>Sorry for the long message here.
>
>Regards.
>
>Jason Benedict Low
>
>***One's success is not because of oneself but is given by others****
change the mail.netphuture.com record to an a record and point it to either an ip
address or something like mail.netphuture.hn.org
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Unix Systems Administrator
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Naperville, Illinois, USA
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hi all-
we've been having a rather bizzare problem recently: certain emails sent
from hotmail arrive every 5 minutes or so. some unfortunate users are
receiving up to 200 copies of certain pieces of mail. originally, i
thought this to be a problem with our primary mailserver (or our internet
connection), as some of the dups would come directly to our primary
mailserver, and some would arrive form the backup (lower preference MX).
there was a problem with the primary: tcpserver was consigured to refuse
certain remote connections, so it makes perfect sense that lots of mail
would bounce to the backup. but that problem was resolved serveral days
ago, and now we're still getting flooded from certain hotmail accounts.
checklist:
1. these aren't attacks of any sort: every originating address is valis
and recognized by the users here.
2. the dns records appear to be correct.
3. output of qmail-showctl(shown below)
If there's no obvious reason why this is happening, is there at least an
easy way to prevent it on an individual basis?
TIA-
Dan
[dkelley@mx1]$ /var/qmail/bin/qmail-showctl
qmail home directory: /var/qmail.
user-ext delimiter: -.
paternalism (in decimal): 2.
silent concurrency limit: 120.
subdirectory split: 23.
user ids: 500, 501, 502, 0, 503, 504, 505, 506.
group ids: 500, 501.
badmailfrom: (Default.) Any MAIL FROM is allowed.
bouncefrom: (Default.) Bounce user name is MAILER-DAEMON.
bouncehost: (Default.) Bounce host name is mx1.ny.otec.com.
concurrencylocal: Local concurrency is 30.
concurrencyremote: Remote concurrency is 120.
databytes: (Default.) SMTP DATA limit is 0 bytes.
defaultdomain: Default domain name is ny.otec.com.
defaulthost: (Default.) Default host name is mx1.ny.otec.com.
doublebouncehost: (Default.) 2B recipient host: mx1.ny.otec.com.
doublebounceto: (Default.) 2B recipient user: postmaster.
envnoathost: (Default.) Presumed domain name is mx1.ny.otec.com.
helohost: (Default.) SMTP client HELO host name is mx1.ny.otec.com.
idhost: (Default.) Message-ID host name is mx1.ny.otec.com.
localiphost: (Default.) Local IP address becomes mx1.ny.otec.com.
locals:
Messages for mx1.ny.otec.com are delivered locally.
Messages for localhost are delivered locally.
Messages for mailhost are delivered locally.
Messages for mailhost.otec.com are delivered locally.
Messages for mailhost.ny.otec.com are delivered locally.
Messages for otec.com are delivered locally.
Messages for rbl.com are delivered locally.
Messages for mailhost.rbl.com are delivered locally.
Messages for ca.otec.com are delivered locally.
Messages for ny.otec.com are delivered locally.
Messages for cio.genx.net are delivered locally.
Messages for analogue.net are delivered locally.
Messages for orb.analogue.net are delivered locally.
Messages for www.analogue.net are delivered locally.
Messages for microgravity.analogue.net are delivered locally.
me: My name is mx1.ny.otec.com.
percenthack: (Default.) The percent hack is not allowed.
plusdomain: Plus domain name is otec.com.
qmqpservers: (Default.) No QMQP servers.
queuelifetime: (Default.) Message lifetime in the queue is 604800 seconds.
rcpthosts:
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at gc.ny.otec.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at gc.ny.otec.net.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at bos.otec.net.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at bos.otec.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at mx1.bos.otec.net.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at mx1.bos.otec.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at mailhost.bos.otec.net.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at mailhost.bos.otec.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at otec.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at mailhost.otec.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at mx1.ny.otec.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at db1.gc.ny.otec.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at mx2.ny.genx.net.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at localhost.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at mailhost.ca.otec.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at mailhost.ny.otec.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at mailhost.rbl.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at mailhost2.ca.otec.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at mailhost2.ny.otec.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at mailhost2.otec.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at mailhost2.rbl.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at ny.otec.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at otec.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at rbl.com.
morercpthosts: (Default.) No effect.
morercpthosts.cdb: (Default.) No effect.
smtpgreeting: (Default.) SMTP greeting: 220 mx1.ny.otec.com.
smtproutes: (Default.) No artificial SMTP routes.
timeoutconnect: (Default.) SMTP client connection timeout is 60 seconds.
timeoutremote: (Default.) SMTP client data timeout is 1200 seconds.
timeoutsmtpd: (Default.) SMTP server data timeout is 1200 seconds.
virtualdomains:
Virtual domain: otec.com:alias
Virtual domain: mailhost.otec.com:alias
Virtual domain: mx2.ny.genx.net:alias
TIA
________________
Dan Kelley
www.otec.com
212-840-8600
________________
On Thursday 01 March 2001 10:27 am, Olivier M. wrote:
> have you _really_ followed all the steps of the LWQ ?
> if yes, root would have a mailbox in /var/qmail/alias/Mailbox.
> Does this directory exists ?
The directory /var/qmail/alias exists, with a file called 'Mailbox'.
Actually, I found two problems with my setup:
1) I hadn't installed dot-forward, so the attempt to deliver to any mail box
died with the mail box didn't exist (it was really that it couldn't find
dot-forward). I found the proper error message by trying a '.qmail-default'
mailbox.
Compiling and then installing dot-forward into /usr/bin/dot-forward fixed it.
2) my links were (naively) pointing the wrong direction from the
~user/Mailbox file to /var/spool/mail/$user, rather than the other direction.
Duh.
> Please show us the qmail users from /etc/passwd.
They're in there:
alias:x:508:101::/var/qmail/alias:/bin/bash
qmaild:x:509:101::/var/qmail:/bin/bash
qmaill:x:510:101::/var/qmail:/bin/bash
qmailp:x:511:101::/var/qmail:/bin/bash
qmailq:x:512:102::/var/qmail:/bin/bash
qmailr:x:513:102::/var/qmail:/bin/bash
qmails:x:514:102::/var/qmail:/bin/bash
> Good luck :)
Actually, it must be said that this is coming together in less than 12 hours.
Remarkable for a full internet capable mail client! Kudos all around!
> PS: if you followed the INSTALL file of the qmail-1.03 tar.gz,
> it would work... :)
Ah, I followed the wrong document, then...but it never explicitly states that
you should install the dot-forward. It only refers to it in the FAQ, and the
error message isn't illuminating in this case.
Also, the wording of the link text confused me. Not that that takes a great
deal of effort these days...;^)
Now "all" I need to do is get pop3 working, and I'm set...
--
Ken Corey, CTO Atomic Interactive, Ltd.
I work for a company that had a mail server operating prior to
my starting. It is a Slackware system running qmail-1.03. It is
configured with /home/maildir for the users. The rest of the network is
NT controlled. Most users are running Eudora Pro for a client. There is
limited use of Outlook at the same time. The password request uses the
shadow password for authentication. My CTO recently started asking about
switching to APOP instead of POP for logins. He started a packet sniffer
and pulled the user name and password for the mail transfer. As a result
of this he wants a more secure method used. From what I have been finding
the only program that works with qmail is checkpw. The drawback I see is
that the users password is stored in cleartext in the home directory.
Since the CTO does not want either of us to know these due to company
policy (currently when a password is changed I activate passwd and have
the user enter the new one). Is there a way to use the shadow password,
or a program that does not use a cleartext file? I do have a password
generator program that can be run to give me an encoded password. I use
this to generate a UNIX compatible code to activate the CVS program in
the NT environment for development.
Thanks in advance,
Richard Lyon
Network Administrator
AbsoluteFuture, Inc.
NE 8th Street, Suite 1414
Bellevue, WA 98004
On Thu, 01 Mar 2001, Richard Lyon wrote:
>
>
>I work for a company that had a mail server operating prior to my starting.
>It is a Slackware system running qmail-1.03. It is configured with
>/home/maildir for the users. The rest of the network is NT controlled. Most
>users are running Eudora Pro for a client. There is limited use of Outlook
>at the same time. The password request uses the shadow password for
>authentication. My CTO recently started asking about switching to APOP
>instead of POP for logins. He started a packet sniffer and pulled the user
>name and password for the mail transfer. As a result of this he wants a
>more secure method used. From what I have been finding the only program
>that works with qmail is checkpw. The drawback I see is that the users
>password is stored in cleartext in the home directory. Since the CTO does
>not want either of us to know these due to company policy (currently when a
>password is changed I activate passwd and have the user enter the new one).
>Is there a way to use the shadow password, or a program that does not use a
>cleartext file? I do have a password generator program that can be run to
>give me an encoded password. I use this to generate a UNIX compatible code
>to activate the CVS program in the NT environment for development.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Richard Lyon
>Network Administrator
>
>AbsoluteFuture, Inc.
>NE 8th Street, Suite 1414
>Bellevue, WA 98004
Go to www.qmail.org and search through the document for apop. You should find 2 items,
the second of which sounds like what you want.
--
***********************************
Matthew H Patterson
Unix Systems Administrator
National Support Center, LLC
Naperville, Illinois, USA
***********************************
On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 12:37:37PM -0800, Richard Lyon wrote:
[snip]
> cleartext file? I do have a password generator program that can be run to
> give me an encoded password. I use this to generate a UNIX compatible code
> to activate the CVS program in the NT environment for development.
Well, the choice is cleartext over the network, or cleartext on the
server. Plain POP3 offers no other choices.
What you probably want is pop3 with normal authentication (from
shadow), over SSL. www.qmail.org can help you out here.
Greetz, Peter.
Hi all!
I have been trying to setup pop accounts with no success :( so maybe can help
me!
I followed this: http://www.whirlycott.com/phil/pop3.html
step by step a lot of times, when i send a mail from hotmail to the account
that I created I got this:
Hi. This is the qmail-send program at siso.com.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Sorry. Although I'm listed as a best-preference MX or A for that host,
it isn't in my control/locals file, so I don't treat it as local. (#5.4.6)
--- Below this line is a copy of the message.
also I put as my gid & uid 110 because I saw that i some file of my
RH6.2 box, how I can verify that this ids are correct?
I don't know what to do or where I can found more info solve this trouble,
Thank you in advance,
Rocael.
____________________________________________________________________
Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1
On Thu, 01 Mar 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hi all!
>I have been trying to setup pop accounts with no success :( so maybe can help
>me!
>
>I followed this: http://www.whirlycott.com/phil/pop3.html
>step by step a lot of times, when i send a mail from hotmail to the account
>that I created I got this:
>
>
>Hi. This is the qmail-send program at siso.com.
>I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
>This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
>
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Sorry. Although I'm listed as a best-preference MX or A for that host,
>it isn't in my control/locals file, so I don't treat it as local. (#5.4.6)
>
>--- Below this line is a copy of the message.
>
>
>
>
>also I put as my gid & uid 110 because I saw that i some file of my
>RH6.2 box, how I can verify that this ids are correct?
>
>I don't know what to do or where I can found more info solve this trouble,
>
>Thank you in advance,
>Rocael.
>
>____________________________________________________________________
>Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1
`echo 'e-macro.com' >> /var/qmail/control/locals`
`echo 'e-macro.com' >> /var/qmail/control/locals`
--
***********************************
Matthew H Patterson
Unix Systems Administrator
National Support Center, LLC
Naperville, Illinois, USA
***********************************
Hi,
> `echo 'e-macro.com' >> /var/qmail/control/locals`
> `echo 'e-macro.com' >> /var/qmail/control/locals`
I suppose one of these two lines should read
echo 'e-macro.com' >> /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts
claudio
--
Claudio Nieder, Kanalweg 1, CH-8610 Uster, Tel +41 79 357 6743
yahoo messenger: claudionieder aim: claudionieder icq:42315212
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.claudio.ch
How do I get Qmail to include the proper time zone info in the
messages? My sendmail machines have it, but anything coming from Qmail
has -0000. The machines are otherwise identical RH 7.0 boxes.
KS
KARICO Business Services
Toronto, ON Canada
http://www.ksbase.com
... Don't ask me; I was hired for my looks.
Thursday March 01 2001 15:15, Matthew Patterson wrote to Kari Suomela:
>> How do I get Qmail to include the proper time zone info in the
>> messages? My sendmail machines have it, but anything coming from
>> Qmail has -0000.
MP> Is your machine's system time set on GMT or local time? If it is
MP> on
MP> GMT, it shouldn't show an offset. If they are on local time, make
MP> sure
Makes no difference. I've tried setting it to GMT and local time, as
well as numerous time zone options. They all work fine with sendmail,
but qmail ignores them.
MP> that your machine knows that by checking the output of date and
MP> seeing if there is a timezone listed.
Yes, it's there.
KS
On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 03:21:43PM -0500, Kari Suomela wrote:
> How do I get Qmail to include the proper time zone info in the
> messages? My sendmail machines have it, but anything coming from Qmail
> has -0000. The machines are otherwise identical RH 7.0 boxes.
Are you talking about the Received: or the Date: header?
Greetz, Peter.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kari Suomela) writes:
> How do I get Qmail to include the proper time zone info in the
> messages? My sendmail machines have it, but anything coming from Qmail
> has -0000. The machines are otherwise identical RH 7.0 boxes.
Basically, you won't. Qmail is putting in the time correctly, but
it's stating it in GMT. This is actually more useful; mail often
crosses timezone boundaries, and having the received headers *all* use
GMT would make it much easier to follow.
The timezone information is only available in rather system-dependent
ways through the standard C library, and Dan has chosen to completely
avoid the standard C library for security and performance reasons.
--
David Dyer-Bennet / Welcome to the future! / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SF: http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/ Minicon: http://www.mnstf.org/minicon/
Photos: http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/
On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 03:57:32PM -0600, David Dyer-Bennet mumbled:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kari Suomela) writes:
>
> > How do I get Qmail to include the proper time zone info in the
> > messages? My sendmail machines have it, but anything coming from Qmail
> > has -0000. The machines are otherwise identical RH 7.0 boxes.
>
> Basically, you won't. Qmail is putting in the time correctly, but
> it's stating it in GMT. This is actually more useful; mail often
Actually that's not quit true. On my OpenBSD system I set my timezone
in the kernel configuration. If you look in the headers of this mail
you will see I have GMT+1 (MET).
Not sure how, if possible, you set the timezone with a "hard" value on a
Linux system.
/Martin
Aargh! Nevermind, I just realized why I did set a hardvalue in the
kernel config. I did this so that qmail would show the time as GMT and
not MET ie. qmail used the MET time which is GMT+1 but it still wrote
it as -0000. When setting a hard value of -60 in the kernel the error
was fixed.
Sorry about confusing things a bit...
/M
On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 11:44:50PM +0100, Martin Akesson mumbled:
> On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 03:57:32PM -0600, David Dyer-Bennet mumbled:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kari Suomela) writes:
> >
> > > How do I get Qmail to include the proper time zone info in the
> > > messages? My sendmail machines have it, but anything coming from Qmail
> > > has -0000. The machines are otherwise identical RH 7.0 boxes.
> >
> > Basically, you won't. Qmail is putting in the time correctly, but
> > it's stating it in GMT. This is actually more useful; mail often
>
> Actually that's not quit true. On my OpenBSD system I set my timezone
> in the kernel configuration. If you look in the headers of this mail
> you will see I have GMT+1 (MET).
>
> Not sure how, if possible, you set the timezone with a "hard" value on a
> Linux system.
>
> /Martin
On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 11:44:50PM +0100, Martin Akesson wrote:
[snip]
>
> Actually that's not quit true. On my OpenBSD system I set my timezone
> in the kernel configuration. If you look in the headers of this mail
> you will see I have GMT+1 (MET).
That's not the kernel configuration.
And you are confusing stuff: the Date header can very well be in your
own timezone.
Any machine writing Received headers in something not GMT is confused,
however. Any user requesting so is confused, too.
> Not sure how, if possible, you set the timezone with a "hard" value on a
> Linux system.
Same as on OpenBSD. It's in the libc.
Greetz, Peter.
Thursday March 01 2001 15:57, David Dyer-Bennet wrote to All:
>> How do I get Qmail to include the proper time zone info in the
>> messages? My sendmail machines have it, but anything coming from
>> Qmail has -0000. The machines are otherwise identical RH 7.0 boxes.
DB> Basically, you won't. Qmail is putting in the time correctly, but
DB> it's stating it in GMT. This is actually more useful; mail often
DB> crosses timezone boundaries, and having the received headers *all*
DB> use
This is very annoying! I've spent lots of time training the users to
configure their clients properly, and now my qmail server sends out
garbage, which defeats the purpose. :(
DB> The timezone information is only available in rather
DB> system-dependent
DB> ways through the standard C library, and Dan has chosen to
DB> completely
DB> avoid the standard C library for security and performance reasons.
Whatever that means. Sendmail is doing it ok, so it can't be that hard
to implement.
KS
On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 05:08:43PM -0500, Kari Suomela mumbled:
> DB> Basically, you won't. Qmail is putting in the time correctly, but
> DB> it's stating it in GMT. This is actually more useful; mail often
> DB> crosses timezone boundaries, and having the received headers *all*
> DB> use
>
> This is very annoying! I've spent lots of time training the users to
> configure their clients properly, and now my qmail server sends out
> garbage, which defeats the purpose. :(
>
I dont see where the problem is. The client can only set the 'Date:'
headers anyway. The 'Received:' headers on the other hand are set by
the MDA and should all use the same timezone, GMT. The users will never
see these headers anyway and most ISPs will only be happy with this
configuration, atleast I know I would be.
/M
On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 05:08:43PM -0500, Kari Suomela wrote:
>
> Thursday March 01 2001 15:57, David Dyer-Bennet wrote to All:
>
>
> >> How do I get Qmail to include the proper time zone info in the
> >> messages? My sendmail machines have it, but anything coming from
> >> Qmail has -0000. The machines are otherwise identical RH 7.0 boxes.
>
> DB> Basically, you won't. Qmail is putting in the time correctly, but
> DB> it's stating it in GMT. This is actually more useful; mail often
> DB> crosses timezone boundaries, and having the received headers *all*
> DB> use
>
> This is very annoying! I've spent lots of time training the users to
> configure their clients properly, and now my qmail server sends out
> garbage, which defeats the purpose. :(
>
You have users who read Recieved: headers regularly? Why? At any rate, it
really ticks me off when SMTP servers use local timezone values in
Recieved: headers -- try tracing a message that got to you from Finland
across a good five or six servers that _all_ use local timezones, doing
the GMT math by hand, to see how long the message took to get to you. No
fscking fun at _all_. Using GMT in Recieved: headers means that it's
_very_ easy to find out exactly how long it took to get to you, and
where any delays might have been (and what else is the date in the
Recieved: header for?). Doing the simple math to convert it all to your
local timezone should be trivial, you only need to do it once.
> DB> The timezone information is only available in rather
> DB> system-dependent
> DB> ways through the standard C library, and Dan has chosen to
> DB> completely
> DB> avoid the standard C library for security and performance reasons.
>
> Whatever that means. Sendmail is doing it ok, so it can't be that hard
> to implement.
>
> KS
>
>
I imagine that it's trickier than you think if you're avoiding standard
C libraries, and most sysadmins (which is who I thought Recieved:
headers were for) seem to prefer GMT anyway....
Is your problem actually with the Recieved: headers, or 'Date:'?
--
Greg White
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent
revolution inevitable.
-- John F. Kennedy
On Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:08:43 EST, wrote:
> This is very annoying! I've spent lots of time training the users to
> configure their clients properly, and now my qmail server sends out
> garbage, which defeats the purpose. :(
What did you train your users to do? They should be putting in a
correct Date header with the right timezone information---if they
aren't retrain them. Most users won't ever look at the rest of the
headers such as Received and it is more appropriate that they are in
UTC/GMT.
Andy
Friday March 02 2001 00:22, Martin Akesson wrote to All:
>>
>> This is very annoying! I've spent lots of time training the users
> to
>> configure their clients properly, and now my qmail server sends out
>> garbage, which defeats the purpose. :(
>>
MA> I dont see where the problem is. The client can only set the
MA> 'Date:'
MA> headers anyway. The 'Received:' headers on the other hand are set
MA> by
Well, something isn't right. If a message arrives directly from my
sendmail server, the time shows the local time correctly, even though
the hardware clcok is in GMT. From a qmail server, the time zone shows
-0000, which makes no sense.
This does not apply to user to user mail, since those messages get the
time zone (mis)configuration from the users' clients. However,
sqwebmail and others, which send messages directly from the server, are
affected. Also all notification messages from various utilities to
myself (admin) have the -0000 time zone and get sorted whoknowswhere in
my inbox.
MA> the MDA and should all use the same timezone, GMT. The users will
MA> never see these headers anyway and most ISPs will only be happy
MA> with
The headers may now show, but when you "reply" the quote header shows
the time and TZ of the original message - wrong in these cases.
KS
KARICO Business Services
Toronto, ON Canada
http://www.ksbase.com
... I demand that you ignore that man behind the curtain!
Friday March 02 2001 00:22, Martin Akesson wrote to All:
MA> I dont see where the problem is. The client can only set the
MA> 'Date:'
MA> headers anyway. The 'Received:' headers on the other hand are set
MA> by
So, pls explain this, and tell me, how I can get the received messages
to display the correct time:
1. Message from a qmail server:
=== Cut ===
.INTL 1:140/22 1:140/22
.REPLYADDR [EMAIL PROTECTED]
.REPLYTO 1:140/22.10 UUCP
.MSGID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 95ee3556
.PID: SoupGate-OS/2 v1.05
.Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
.Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
.Received: (qmail 3425 invoked by uid 520); 2 Mar 2001 01:03:16 -0000
.Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
.Received: (qmail 3423 invoked by uid 0); 2 Mar 2001 01:03:16 -0000
.Date: 2 Mar 2001 01:03:16 -0000
.Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
.From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
.To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
.FMPT 10
wtmp begins Thu Mar 1 12:06:49 2001
=== Cut ===
2. Message from a sendmail server:
�
.INTL 1:140/22 1:140/22
.REPLYADDR [EMAIL PROTECTED]
.REPLYTO 1:140/22.10 UUCP
.MSGID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 4f1d8db8
.PID: SoupGate-OS/2 v1.05
.Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
.Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
.Received: (qmail 3415 invoked by uid 520); 2 Mar 2001 01:02:57 -0000
.Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
.Received: (qmail 3413 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2001 01:02:57 -0000
.Received: from kb1.ksbase.com ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) by kb3.ksbase.com
with
. SMTP; 2 Mar 2001 01:02:57 -0000
.Received: (from root@localhost) by kb1.ksbase.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id
UAA01101
. for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 20:02:56 -0500
.Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 20:02:56 -0500
.From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
.Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
.To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
.FMPT 10
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wtmp begins Thu Mar 1 09:08:51 2001
=== Cut ===
Sendmail inserts the correct TZ on the "Date" line, but qmail does not!
KS
Thursday March 01 2001 15:37, Greg White wrote to All:
GW> it really ticks me off when SMTP servers use local timezone values
GW> in
GW> Recieved: headers -- try tracing a message that got to you from
I've only seen "Received" headers. :)
The sender's and recipient's local times are important. If the mail
server ignores the time zone and time stamps everything in GMT, you
really have to do some calculating! If there is a proper Date header, a
proper email client will convert the time to local time accordingly.
KS
Martin Akesson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 1 March 2001 at 23:44:50 +0100
> On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 03:57:32PM -0600, David Dyer-Bennet mumbled:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kari Suomela) writes:
> >
> > > How do I get Qmail to include the proper time zone info in the
> > > messages? My sendmail machines have it, but anything coming from Qmail
> > > has -0000. The machines are otherwise identical RH 7.0 boxes.
> >
> > Basically, you won't. Qmail is putting in the time correctly, but
> > it's stating it in GMT. This is actually more useful; mail often
>
> Actually that's not quit true. On my OpenBSD system I set my timezone
> in the kernel configuration. If you look in the headers of this mail
> you will see I have GMT+1 (MET).
>
> Not sure how, if possible, you set the timezone with a "hard" value on a
> Linux system.
The date line is zone +1, but the received line is zone 0, which is
exactly what I'd expect (the date line being put in by the MUA, not
qmail). Just like in my headers (except it's be -6 here).
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Kari Suomela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How do I get Qmail to include the proper time zone info in the
> messages? My sendmail machines have it, but anything coming from Qmail
> has -0000. The machines are otherwise identical RH 7.0 boxes.
In Received: headers? -0000 is the proper time zone.
In the Date: field? Have your MUA insert the date field. qmail won't
touch it then.
BTW, it's "qmail", not "Qmail".
Charles
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What are you using to send these test messages?
> MA> I dont see where the problem is. The client can only set the
> MA> 'Date:'
> MA> headers anyway. The 'Received:' headers on the other hand are set
> MA> by
>
> So, pls explain this, and tell me, how I can get the received messages
> to display the correct time:
>
> 1. Message from a qmail server:
...
> Sendmail inserts the correct TZ on the "Date" line, but qmail does not!
>
> KS
Thursday March 01 2001 19:23, Chris Bolt wrote to All:
CB> What are you using to send these test messages?
These examples were both sent by:
'last kari | mail <my@address>'
It'll be different, if I use a client, which inserts the time zone.
KS
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kari Suomela) writes:
> Thursday March 01 2001 15:57, David Dyer-Bennet wrote to All:
>
>
> >> How do I get Qmail to include the proper time zone info in the
> >> messages? My sendmail machines have it, but anything coming from
> >> Qmail has -0000. The machines are otherwise identical RH 7.0 boxes.
>
> DB> Basically, you won't. Qmail is putting in the time correctly, but
> DB> it's stating it in GMT. This is actually more useful; mail often
> DB> crosses timezone boundaries, and having the received headers *all*
> DB> use
>
> This is very annoying! I've spent lots of time training the users to
> configure their clients properly, and now my qmail server sends out
> garbage, which defeats the purpose. :(
It's not garbage; it's correct. It just doesn't use the local
timezone. In the list of received headers, where a message often
passes through servers in different timezones, having everything in
GMT is *more* useful IMHO.
> DB> The timezone information is only available in rather
> DB> system-dependent
> DB> ways through the standard C library, and Dan has chosen to
> DB> completely
> DB> avoid the standard C library for security and performance reasons.
>
> Whatever that means. Sendmail is doing it ok, so it can't be that hard
> to implement.
It means that it would either compromise the security of qmail, or
else require lots of extra code to handle various systems local
conventions, to change this behavior. It's not hard to do; it IS hard
to do *well*.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kari Suomela) writes:
> Thursday March 01 2001 19:23, Chris Bolt wrote to All:
>
>
> CB> What are you using to send these test messages?
>
> These examples were both sent by:
>
> 'last kari | mail <my@address>'
>
> It'll be different, if I use a client, which inserts the time zone.
>
Exactly. For that matter, it'd be different if you viewed the
messages through a client that displayed times in headers in current
timezone, too.
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Thursday March 01 2001 21:08, David Dyer-Bennet wrote to All:
>> It'll be different, if I use a client, which inserts the time zone.
>>
DB> Exactly. For that matter, it'd be different if you viewed the
DB> messages through a client that displayed times in headers in
DB> current
DB> timezone, too.
No, it's not! That's how I noticed it. Someone was blaming my client
for it, but the problem is the same with all of them. I have tested it
with various Netscapes, Outlook 98, Outlook 2000, Outlook Express,
PMMail Pro 2000, Sqwebmail and Adjewebmail.
KS
KARICO Business Services
Toronto, ON Canada
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kari Suomela) writes:
> Thursday March 01 2001 21:08, David Dyer-Bennet wrote to All:
>
> >> It'll be different, if I use a client, which inserts the time zone.
> >>
>
> DB> Exactly. For that matter, it'd be different if you viewed the
> DB> messages through a client that displayed times in headers in
> DB> current
> DB> timezone, too.
>
> No, it's not! That's how I noticed it. Someone was blaming my client
> for it, but the problem is the same with all of them. I have tested it
> with various Netscapes, Outlook 98, Outlook 2000, Outlook Express,
> PMMail Pro 2000, Sqwebmail and Adjewebmail.
That's because you didn't use a client which adjusts header
timestamps, though.
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On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 09:43:07PM -0500, Kari Suomela wrote:
> These examples were both sent by:
>
> 'last kari | mail <my@address>'
I don't know about RedHat but I have added the following line in
/etc/mail.rc of my non-RedHat linux system:
set sendmail=/var/qmail/bin/datemail
It's explained in /var/qmail/doc/FAQ, paragraph 6.1.
Greetings,
Occasionally our inbound mail servers need a reboot after patching
and sometimes there is lots of mail that needs to find its way home to
the sender due to bounces. Sometimes those remote sites are either
having difficulties or are so swamped that nothing much gets to them.
I'd like to cut down on the time the server spends waiting on them.
There seems to be 3 control files to do this:
timeoutsmtpd which is amt of time for each new *buffer* of data from
a remote SMTP client. (default 20 minutes)
timeoutconnect which is how long qmail-remote waits for a connection
(default 1 minute)
timeoutremote which appears to be like timeoutsmtpd but for each
response, not each buffer (also 20minute default).
Seems like a non-responsive server is fine at 1 minute, but 20 minutes
seems to be an excessive amount of time to hold up one of my concurrent
connects for a buffer of data or just a reply. Would it be safe to lower
this
value to say also 1 minute? I don't want to mess with the defaults if this
would be a bad thing to do, but I cannot think of why it would be.
Thanks,
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Running qmail-1.03 and procmail 3.15.1 under Solaris 2.6 Sparc.
When I try to manually run the qmail-procmail script (which calls preline
procmail) I get a
preline error:
preline: usage: preline cmd [ arg ... ]
The reason I'm trying this manually is to diagnose why it isn't working from
.qmail.
I've tried various iterations of cat'ing a real qmail message and just text,
but this
doesn't appear to help (i.e. cat message | preline procmail gives the same
thing).
Anyone have an idea on this, or a replacement for procmail?
...Chris
Thanks to the list, I've built my first SMTP server.... So far things
are looking good. I do have one problem with receiving mail from any
mailing list. It simply bounces!! Not sure where to look on this one.
The setup here is qmail configured as an SMTP gateway for an entire
domain, pullmail running on NT to inject mail from gateway. While
looking at the headers, all emails from the different mailing lists have
the To: field - not too surprised about that. What I need to know is,
which field should I set pullmail to look for to handle mailing lists??
Am I thinking correctly?? Thanks again! qmail is awesome...
.mark
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patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit
microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of
competition."
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my $opinion_only;
Thanks guys and gals(?)!
This is making my life much easier.
Qmail is installed, and properly receives email to
users with full accounts and Mailbox files in their
$HOME.
I installed vmailmgr and want to run virtualdomains
(multiple domains, multiple IPs, multiple virtual
users per domain).
PROBLEM:
Outside mail to virtual aliases bounces saying "Sorry,
no mailbox here by that name."
INFO:
I created /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains with:
.mydomain.com:aw
I did the following:
useradd aw
su - aw
vsetup
vadduser herman
edit /etc/inetd.conf and add
pop-3 stream tcp nowait root
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup qmail-popup mydomain.com
/usr/local/bin/checkvpw /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d
Mailbox
restart inetd (using init.d script)
restart qmail (using init.d script)
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I get the feeling this would've already been well and truly covered on this
list, but just out of curiosity I tried it anyway.
On slackware 7.1 installed in vmware under win2k pro and slackware 7.1 on 2
other 'real' machines, all it did was chew cpu and cause qmail-smtpd to chew
some cpu as well. 'top' showed about 48 in the %CPU column for both. I let
it run for about 15 minutes - as far as I could tell from the output of
'free', swap wasn't affected in the slightest. Mail still worked fine - both
'real' machines host around 800 vhosts, each with their own virtual mail
domains. It's a free hosting setup for computer gamers in Australia - they
are generally very quick to complain when something goes wrong ;) but not
a peep from them while I was doing those quick tests
> What is this qmail version 2.0 that securityfocus.com claims there is an
> explot for? Am I missing something, or are they?
>
> Being that I have better things to do than to try to screw up my mail
> server, has anyone tried this claimed explot? What really happens?
>
> --Pete
actually for what it's worth, if you follow the directions in INSTALL you
should generally hit the 'read FAQ' before getting down to the section of
INSTALL that says to use inetd (for upgrading from sendmail) :)
FAQ pretty much points you at tcpserver
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Lance Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: qmail 2.0 exploit
> Peter Cavender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > What is this qmail version 2.0 that securityfocus.com claims there is an
> > explot for? Am I missing something, or are they?
> >
> > Being that I have better things to do than to try to screw up my mail
> > server, has anyone tried this claimed explot? What really happens?
>
> It depends upon how you run qmail-smtpd. There are several variables.
>
> If you run qmail-smtpd directly from inetd.conf, as suggested in the
> INSTALL file distributed with qmail-1.03, then there is a pretty good
> chance that the instance of qmail-smtpd being attacked will grow to
> eat of all of memory. What happens then depends upon your OS. On
> GNU/Linux, a random process will be killed; there is a pretty good
> chance that the random process will be the large qmail-smtpd.
> Alternatively, a careful attacker who really understands your system
> can create several fairly large qmail-smtpd processes and
> significantly increase the chance that the random process which is
> killed will be something other than qmail-smtpd. In this scenario
> this attack can indeed be a denial of service.
>
> If you run qmail-smtpd as suggested in Life With Qmail, then you are
> not vulnerable to this attack, because qmail-smtpd is run under the
> softlimit program to limit the amount of memory it will allocate.
> (This does not affect the size of the mail messages it can accept, as
> qmail-smtpd does not store mail messages in memory.)
>
> Ian
>
"Jason Brooke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > If you run qmail-smtpd directly from inetd.conf, as suggested in the
> > INSTALL file distributed with qmail-1.03, then there is a pretty good
> > chance that the instance of qmail-smtpd being attacked will grow to
> > eat of all of memory. What happens then depends upon your OS. On
> > GNU/Linux, a random process will be killed; there is a pretty good
> > chance that the random process will be the large qmail-smtpd.
> > Alternatively, a careful attacker who really understands your system
> > can create several fairly large qmail-smtpd processes and
> > significantly increase the chance that the random process which is
> > killed will be something other than qmail-smtpd. In this scenario
> > this attack can indeed be a denial of service.
>
> actually for what it's worth, if you follow the directions in INSTALL you
> should generally hit the 'read FAQ' before getting down to the section of
> INSTALL that says to use inetd (for upgrading from sendmail) :)
>
> FAQ pretty much points you at tcpserver
I would say that that is a mere quibble, except that it isn't even
that. It isn't tcpserver which prevents qmail-smtpd from growing
without bound; it is softlimit. softlimit isn't mentioned in the
INSTALL file or the FAQ which is distributed with qmail 1.03. The
daemontools are mentioned, but not in the context of resource limits.
Obviously there isn't anything wrong with qmail. And obviously these
bug reports are highly misleading in implying that there is a bug
which needs to be fixed in qmail. But I do think that the bug reports
have a point: if you install qmail-1.03 according to a reasonable
reading of the instructions which come with the tar file, your system
may be vulnerable to a theoretical denial of service attack. The fact
that other people tell you to install qmail in a different way is
interesting, but does not change the fact that qmail-1.03 comes with
installation instructions which at least some people will naturally
follow. I certainly did in my first qmail installation.
Dan could fix this by releasing qmail-1.03.1 with different
installation instructions. Of course, if he did, some people would
take that to be an admission that there actually is a security hole in
qmail-1.03.
Ian
S'ok, it's no quibble - it's worth discussing the docs a little since it's
what the docs allegedly fail to do, that some of the arguments hinge on.
I disagree with the idea that a reasonable read of the docs would lead you to
install Qmail under inetd. I believe that a reasonable read of the docs would
lead you to install it under tcpserver.
Right after the instruction to run 'make setup check', the INSTALL file says
'Read INSTALL.ctl and FAQ'. Heading 5 in FAQ (which is visible on the first
page unless you're running a very small window) says 'Setting up servers'. If
you jump to heading 5 by doing say '/ Setting' in vi you get taken straight to
a section which begins by saying:
'5.1. How do I run qmail-smtpd under tcpserver? inetd is barfing at high
loads, cutting off service for ten-minute stretches. I'd also like
better connection logging.
Answer: First, install the tcpserver program, part of the ucspi-tcp
package (http://pobox.com/~djb/ucspi-tcp.html). Second, remove the smtp
line from /etc/inetd.conf, and put the line
tcpserver -u 7770 -g 2108 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd &
into your system startup files.'
This is before you come to the part of the INSTALL file that instructs how to
run it from inetd - which, incidentally, is only shown under the heading 'To
upgrade from sendmail to qmail:'
So to sum up, I really don't agree that anyone who thinks the INSTALL file is
telling them to use inetd has done a reasonable read. They've actually only
done a skim - and that's only the people actually upgrading from sendmail.
People installing fresh have no reason whatsoever to even make the mistake of
using inetd even if they skimmed.
That's all well and good though, until your comment about tcpserver not
preventing this DOS. If this is true then I have to withdraw.
I run qmail under tcpserver on variety of slackware 7.1 installs and and a
couple of slackware 4.0 installs, and none of these are affected by this DOS.
There may be some limit in place on slackware 4.0/7.1 that I don't know
about - but I haven't put any in myself. I've also seen other services spiral
up the loadavg at an alarming rate under certain conditions until the box
practically grinds to a halt, so this limit must be very selective if it
exists :)
jason
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Lance Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jason Brooke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: qmail 2.0 exploit
> I would say that that is a mere quibble, except that it isn't even
> that. It isn't tcpserver which prevents qmail-smtpd from growing
> without bound; it is softlimit. softlimit isn't mentioned in the
> INSTALL file or the FAQ which is distributed with qmail 1.03. The
> daemontools are mentioned, but not in the context of resource limits.
>
> Obviously there isn't anything wrong with qmail. And obviously these
> bug reports are highly misleading in implying that there is a bug
> which needs to be fixed in qmail. But I do think that the bug reports
> have a point: if you install qmail-1.03 according to a reasonable
> reading of the instructions which come with the tar file, your system
> may be vulnerable to a theoretical denial of service attack. The fact
> that other people tell you to install qmail in a different way is
> interesting, but does not change the fact that qmail-1.03 comes with
> installation instructions which at least some people will naturally
> follow. I certainly did in my first qmail installation.
>
> Dan could fix this by releasing qmail-1.03.1 with different
> installation instructions. Of course, if he did, some people would
> take that to be an admission that there actually is a security hole in
> qmail-1.03.
>
> Ian
>
Ah, after creating virtualdomains, I needed to remove
the domain from control/locals.... now it's working.
--- Joe Janitor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Qmail is installed, and properly receives email to
> users with full accounts and Mailbox files in their
> $HOME.
>
> I installed vmailmgr and want to run virtualdomains
> (multiple domains, multiple IPs, multiple virtual
> users per domain).
>
> PROBLEM:
> Outside mail to virtual aliases bounces saying
> "Sorry,
> no mailbox here by that name."
>
> INFO:
> I created /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains with:
> .mydomain.com:aw
>
> I did the following:
> useradd aw
> su - aw
> vsetup
> vadduser herman
> edit /etc/inetd.conf and add
> pop-3 stream tcp nowait root
> /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup qmail-popup mydomain.com
> /usr/local/bin/checkvpw /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d
> Mailbox
>
> restart inetd (using init.d script)
> restart qmail (using init.d script)
>
>
>
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Hi,
Sqwebmail seems to run properly, except it's not
talking to vmailmgr to authenticate.
Smtp, pop3, virtual domains all work just
fine.
Any ideas ?
TIA,
- Chris
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Below is the output from /var/log/qmail/current
I have followed Dave Sill's tutorial to install qmail, what could I have
missed in order to get this error? Thanks...
@400000003a9f25fa002e499c info msg 131091: bytes 753 from
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 1705 uid 501
@400000003a9f25fa00b7bd1c starting delivery 2: msg 131091 to local
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
@400000003a9f25fa00bd3b5c status: local 2/10 remote 0/20
@400000003a9f25fa0203869c delivery
2: failure: This_message_is_looping:_it_already_has_my_Delivered-To_line._(#5.4.6)/
@400000003a9f25fa02136904 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
@400000003a9f25fa0323cb7c bounce msg 131091 qp 1708
@400000003a9f25fa032a2c4c end msg 131091
@400000003a9f25fa033bb494 new msg 131094
@400000003a9f25fa0342b974 info msg 131094: bytes 1328 from <> qp 1708 uid
507
@400000003a9f25fa03d31e4c starting delivery 3: msg 131094 to remote
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
@400000003a9f25fa03d85254 status: local 1/10 remote 1/20
@400000003a9f25fa0497f8d4 delivery 1: success: did_0+1+0/qp_1705/
@400000003a9f25fa04a0fd6c status: local 0/10 remote 1/20
@400000003a9f25fa04aae87c end msg 131090
@400000003a9f25fe1d762704 delivery
3: success: 202.21.11.98_accepted_message./Remote_host_said:_250_ok_983508323_qp_15414/
@400000003a9f25fe1d813af4 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
@400000003a9f25fe1d8a4374 end msg 131094
Hi All,
I have inherited a box that is running Slackware with QMail. Qmail is setup
to use tcpserver and rblsmtpd. The box is masquerading an internal address
as well.
If I connect to the internal interface (192.168.1) (1st ethernet card) via
telnet on port 110 I get an immediate response (OK). If I connect to the
external interface (2nd ethernet card) I get a long delay (40 sec +) before
I get the OK prompt. If I connect from a machine that is one hop away on the
internal network to the 192.168.1 ethernet card I get the 40 sec + delay).
Once the connection happens the system is very quick. The problem I am
having is that some mail clients are timing out when connection to the pop
service.
Due to the fact I inherited the box recently I am not aware of patch levels
but the versions installed on the box are as follows.
Qmail 1.03
rblsmtpd 0.70
tcpserver 0.84
daemontools 0.70
I think it may be some sort of network lookup that is being done but I don't
really know enough about the box to know where to look.
The box is not under resourced at all as it has more memory that it needs
and the processors never go over 10%.
Any ideas or pointers at reading material would be appreciated.
Cheers
Duncan
I'm running this following command:
tai64nfrac < /var/log/qmail/smtpd/current | \
/usr/local/qmailanalog/bin/matchup
And getting output like the following:
? 983523225.508134500 tcpserver: status: 0/20
? 983523463.720841500 tcpserver: status: 1/20
? 983523463.721270500 tcpserver: pid 17201 from 128.138.192.83
? 983523463.799878500 tcpserver: ok 17201 \
cyrix.codegnome.org:63.195.51.16:25 \
openbsd.cs.colorado.edu:128.138.192.83::37694
? 983523465.498049500 tcpserver: end 17201 status 0
? 983523465.498068500 tcpserver: status: 0/20
? 983523504.614741500 tcpserver: status: 1/20
? 983523504.615165500 tcpserver: pid 17213 from 209.226.175.40
? 983523530.649234500 tcpserver: ok 17213 \
cyrix.codegnome.org:63.195.51.16:25 \
tomts7.bellnexxia.net:209.226.175.40::50922
? 983523531.142105500 tcpserver: end 17213 status 0
? 983523531.142123500 tcpserver: status: 0/20
But when I pipe it through any of the z* commands, I get nothing except
the column headers from the z* command itself. What am I doing wrong?
--
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CodeGnome Consulting, LTD
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Hi,
I have just followed the instructions in "Life with
qmail" and got stuck in the following :
Finally, you can start qmail: /usr/local/sbin/qmail start And guess what!! it gave me the following errors: supervise: fatal: unable to acquire log/supervise/lock: temporary failuresupervise: fatal: unable to acquire lqmail-send/supervise/lock: temporary failuresupervise: fatal: unable to acquire log/supervise/lock: temporary failuresupervise: fatal: unable to acquire lqmail-smtpd/supervise/lock: temporary failure : : and keeps going and going ... Can some one help me out here !!! is it permission problem? a missing directory? what!! Thanks in advance! Hatem
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i want to make all incoming email for testing.com to only one local user
that have procmail script (in this case, i used user "myname"). i have create :
/var/qmail/control/virtualdomains :
testing.com:myname
mail.testing.com:myname
/var/qmail/control/rcpthosts and /var/qmail/control/locals :
localhost.testing.com
mail.testing.com
testing.com
/var/qmail/rc :
#!/bin/sh
exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \
qmail-start '|dot-forward .forward
|preline procmail'
and i have a .procmailrc in /home/myname directory :
:0
/home/myname/testing.txt
1. If i run TEST.deliver and send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED],
qmail gave me a "Sorry_no_mailbox..." result, why?
and the testing.txt show that there is no user with xyz or abc name in this
domain (testing.com).
2. Should I use .qmail in /home/myname?
3. Is there any documentations or mail archives about this?
