qmail Digest 24 Dec 2000 11:00:01 -0000 Issue 1223

Topics (messages 54373 through 54387):

Re: newbie question. please recommend solution
        54373 by: Greg Owen
        54379 by: Sridhar Balasubramanian

Re: request to prefix subject header.
        54374 by: Russell Nelson
        54384 by: Dennis

qmail as backup server
        54375 by: Vladimir Vucinic
        54377 by: joshua stein
        54378 by: Vladimir Vucinic

synchronize 2 Maildirs
        54376 by: Clemens Hermann

Logging Messages - qmail newbie
        54380 by: Anonymous user

Blocking certain attachments
        54381 by: Anonymous user

Relaying only
        54382 by: Andy Furnell
        54385 by: richard.illuin.org

list
        54383 by: Kurth Bemis
        54386 by: richard.illuin.org

Question 4 a Guru: Adding a manual or semiautomatic  rejection process for spam in 
vmailmgr/qmail..
        54387 by: Sanjay Arora

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> Here is the thing: I DO NOT have a domain YET. SO in my 
> /etc/hosts file, I added swaru as my machine name. SInce I'm 
> not part of any network (it's a system at which is soon going 
> to be a web/mail server), I named my machine swaru (swami + guru :-).

        I don't know anything about vmailmgr, but I do know that qmail never
uses the hosts file, only DNS.  Never ever.  Not on a bet.  Not if you ask
nicely.  Not even if you're listed on Santa's "Nice" list.

        You might want to set up a "private" DNS server that pretends you
have a domain for the purposes of setting up and testing mail services.

-- 
        gowen -- Greg Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Greg, thanks for the insight. I AM getting a domain soon. I'm getting my DSL
on a static IP and am going to register a domain and assign it. My DNS
server is going to be elsewhere (probably at work).

anyway, I chucked out vmailmgr and installed vpopmail.

Now I've finally accomplished what I wanted to. I can give my friends POP3
accounts and not let them have unix accounts.

So if Anyone needs help configuring such a system, let me know. Although I'm
not the best unix network person (hey, I'm still in high school ...) I'll
probably be able to assist you.

thanks,
-sridhar

-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Owen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 6:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: newbie question. please recommend solution



> Here is the thing: I DO NOT have a domain YET. SO in my
> /etc/hosts file, I added swaru as my machine name. SInce I'm
> not part of any network (it's a system at which is soon going
> to be a web/mail server), I named my machine swaru (swami + guru :-).

        I don't know anything about vmailmgr, but I do know that qmail never
uses the hosts file, only DNS.  Never ever.  Not on a bet.  Not if you ask
nicely.  Not even if you're listed on Santa's "Nice" list.

        You might want to set up a "private" DNS server that pretends you
have a domain for the purposes of setting up and testing mail services.

--
        gowen -- Greg Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]





Dennis writes:
 > Hello to one and all (especially the list managers)
 > 
 > Can I make a suggestion....
 > Why don't we prefix the subject header with [qmail].
 > It makes filtering a lot easier.

Every piece of email from the qmail mailing list has this header in it:
    Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm

Is there any reason why your software cannot key off that header
instead of the Subject: header?

-- 
-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com | If I knew the
Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | destination of the
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | handbasket, I never would
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | have gotten into it!




thanks for showing me the error of my ways :)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Russell Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, 24 December 2000 2:21 AM
> To: Qmail@List. Cr. Yp. To
> Subject: Re: request to prefix subject header.
> 
> 
> Dennis writes:
>  > Hello to one and all (especially the list managers)
>  > 
>  > Can I make a suggestion....
>  > Why don't we prefix the subject header with [qmail].
>  > It makes filtering a lot easier.
> 
> Every piece of email from the qmail mailing list has this header in it:
>     Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm
> 
> Is there any reason why your software cannot key off that header
> instead of the Subject: header?
> 
> -- 
> -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com | If I knew the
> Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | destination of the
> 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | handbasket, I 
> never would
> Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | have gotten into it!




Hi!
 
    I need to configure qmail as secondary mail server, but I don't want to make users on it, I just want to take messages for that domain and wait until primary mail server is available, then, send to it all messages that was for it?
 
Vladimir Vucinic




Vladimir Vucinic wrote:
> I need to configure qmail as secondary mail server, but I don't want
> to make users on it

- add a secondary mx record for the domain to point to this server
- add the domain to the 'rcpthosts' file on this server (but NOT the
  'locals' file)
- give qmail-send a SIGHUP

you're all set.




Thanks,

I already added mx record, but I wasn't sure that it can be as simple as it
is (by modifying rcpthosts file). Thanks, once more.

Vlada

----- Original Message -----
From: "joshua stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 20:26
Subject: Re: qmail as backup server


> Vladimir Vucinic wrote:
> > I need to configure qmail as secondary mail server, but I don't want
> > to make users on it
>
> - add a secondary mx record for the domain to point to this server
> - add the domain to the 'rcpthosts' file on this server (but NOT the
>   'locals' file)
> - give qmail-send a SIGHUP
>
> you're all set.
>





Hi,

I have two computers (qmail, vmailmgr) which should synchronize their Maildirectories 
once one hour.
One of the computers (The authorative Mailserver) has a permanent
Internet connection and the other one (office) has a dialin ISDN connection.
The users shall be able to poll mails from the Server (Webmail, POP3,
etc.) and from the dialin-Sevrer (office).
Problem: when a mail is deleted on the office-server it should also be
deleted on the server as soon as the nex synchronization takes place and
not (!) transferred to the office again. The same vice versa.
The problem is: How does the synchronization program know if a missing
mail on one side was deleted there or not yet transferred.
Has anyone solved a similar problem?

thanks a lot in advance

Clemens





I have been running qmail for a few days now and it works well.

I have a problem though... I need to keep a copy of all messages sent and
received. I followed the instructions in the faq, creating a .qmail-log
file in /var/qmail/alias with ./msg-log in it. 

This does the job as described, but I am now just accumulating one huge
file with attachments and all sorts in it.

Has anybody got a more elegant way of doing this?

I have been trying to work something out for myself, but there are a few
things that I can't find much about/don't understand in the documentation.

There is little info about the alias directory. Am I correct in assuming
that the alias files .qmail-xxxx work the same way as a .qmail file in ones
home directory?

Thinking this I tried to construct a Maildir for my messages by putting
./MaildirLog/ in .qmail-log and creating a maildir in the alias directory -
it didn't work (I got can chdir to directory messages in the log). I am now
wondering though if I should have created the Maildir owned by a particular
user - any info?

One more thing. Can I put the |script type construct in the .qmail-log file
to process the messages myself? If so, I am not sure how it works. Does
this mean that the routine you specify will get the whole message on STDIN?
Does the system expect any output or can you do anything you like with the
message in the script?

Any help appreciated. I am very impressed with qmail so far, although the
docs could be better I think (and yes, for once I did read everything I
could find before posting).

Thanks





I am not hapy about my users receiving certain attachments.

What I want to do is block the following

(1) Attachments bigger than a certain size

(2) Attachment of a certain type (mine type?). For example I would like to
block .exe files. 

I would like to do both elegantly. If I block a message, I want to send a
message to both the sender and recipient telling them what has happened.
Even better I would like to send on the original message without the
attachment.

Anybody point me in the right direction.

PS. I use vpopmail, sqwebmail etc... All virtual domains and users, no
local.




Hello,

  Is there a specific way of configuring qmail so that it will only
  act as a relay/spooling server for backup MX. (ie. when the main
  server goes down, this one has the next highest DNS MX Pref and
  holds the mail until the destination server goes back up). I've
  given the docs a brief looking over, but can't find anything too
  specific.

  Any help would be much appreciated :)

-- 
Best regards,
 Andy                          mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]







On Sun, 24 Dec 2000, Andy Furnell wrote:

> Hello,
> 
>   Is there a specific way of configuring qmail so that it will only
>   act as a relay/spooling server for backup MX. (ie. when the main
>   server goes down, this one has the next highest DNS MX Pref and
>   holds the mail until the destination server goes back up). I've
>   given the docs a brief looking over, but can't find anything too
>   specific.

put the domain name in /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts


e.g.
if the DNS has:
mail.example.com  IN MX 10 primary.example.com.
                  IN MX 20 secondary.example.net.

then rcpthosts on secondary.example.net. needs a line:
mail.example.com

so it knows to accpt mail for that domain. As it is not in 'locals' qmail
qill then know that it needs to forward mail using SMTP.

RjL





i have a text file that that contains a list of email addresses...i want to 
create a dot qmail to send a mail to all the addresses....can i just have a 
.qmail-users file contain /etc/usausers.lst?  How can i do this as a quick 
and dirty hack.. :-)

~kurth
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On Sat, 23 Dec 2000, Kurth Bemis wrote:

> i have a text file that that contains a list of email addresses...i want to 
> create a dot qmail to send a mail to all the addresses....can i just have a 
> .qmail-users file contain /etc/usausers.lst?  How can i do this as a quick 
> and dirty hack.. :-)

quick hack:
cat /etc/usausers.lst >.qmail-users

RjL





Hi All,

We have an application where we want to add a process of spam rejection.
Fully automated spam rejection is not wanted, as not a single non-spam
should not be redirected to /dev/nul. Also, full spam rejection is required.

We want something like moderated mailing lists, where a defined user gets
the mail identified as spam and is able to reverse the rejection of mail,
in addition to bouncing the mail which has escaped the spam filters.

Anyone know of such an application? Qmail/vmailmgr preferred but if any
other available, we would love to have pointers, so that we can study it
for adaptation purposes.

IAC, can somebody please give me some idea how such a thing can be
implemented in qmail/vmailmgr scenario?

How should the application get mail from qmail/vmailmgr...at which point in
the process of sending the mail to the mailbox?

How should the application put the mail to vmailmanager mailbox?

Would like to use existing qmail/vmailmgr procedures wherever possible!!

Hope someone can help me.

With best regards.
Sanjay.





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