qmail Digest 31 Oct 2000 11:00:01 -0000 Issue 1170

Topics (messages 51337 through 51390):

Re: SPAM - Help!
        51337 by: Sean Reifschneider

Qmail Start Problem: ./run
        51338 by: Christophe.Andreoli.nse.de

Re: moving a part of my queue to a ramdisk ?
        51339 by: Peter van Dijk
        51340 by: Peter van Dijk

Re: NO CONFIG-FAST Script
        51341 by: Peter van Dijk

Re: is there any way to move messages to the front of qmail's queue?
        51342 by: Peter van Dijk

Re: Per user RBL or RSS
        51343 by: Chris Hardie

No qmail in /var/qmail/bin
        51344 by: Ruprecht Helms
        51345 by: John Steniger
        51346 by: Petr Novotny

How does one set the return-path different from the sender?
        51347 by: Toby Steel

How does one configure a 1-way open relay?
        51348 by: Toby Steel

qmail-inject: fatal:
        51349 by: alan
        51350 by: Ruprecht Helms

qmailanalog  -  Help...
        51351 by: jsunday.parview.com
        51352 by: Alex Khanin

Help applying the big-cuncurrency patch in FreeBSD 4.0
        51353 by: Fernando Costa de Almeida
        51356 by: Peter van Dijk

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...
        51354 by: Stephen Bosch
        51373 by: Ask Bjoern Hansen
        51382 by: Jeroen ten Berge
        51383 by: Brett Randall

documentation qmail and vpopmail
        51355 by: Schwarz Hans-Juergen

Blocked pipe to qmail-queue
        51357 by: Jeff Mayzurk
        51358 by: markd.bushwire.net
        51359 by: Jeff Mayzurk
        51361 by: Ian Lance Taylor
        51362 by: markd.bushwire.net
        51363 by: Jeff Mayzurk
        51365 by: Peter van Dijk
        51377 by: Sean Reifschneider
        51378 by: Jeff Mayzurk

Re: Forward and Reply-To field
        51360 by: Kai MacTane
        51386 by: Brett Randall

Re: installation Problems  [WatchDog checked]
        51364 by: Robin S. Socha

apache ssl
        51366 by: Martin Kos
        51367 by: Hubbard, David
        51370 by: Martin Kos
        51371 by: J.P. Racine

Messages don�t get delivered in Maildir
        51368 by: Schwarz Hans-Juergen

Re: Messages don't get delivered in Maildir
        51369 by: Alex Pennace

smtp auth
        51372 by: Juan Calderon

Logging
        51374 by: Tim Burden

2 Links
        51375 by: ari.doctordata.com.br
        51376 by: Alex Pennace

netscape error
        51379 by: shaolei
        51381 by: Magnus Bodin
        51385 by: wolfgang zeikat

qmail-list fork? (was: [sic] people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses 
on th is list...)
        51380 by: Magnus Bodin

some problem about vmaimgr
        51384 by: rom

Qmail Start Problem
        51387 by: Christophe.Andreoli.nse.de

Can't get POP3 Authorisation to work
        51388 by: Howard Miller

fastforward VS aliases
        51389 by: Mr.F

user/assign overwriting problem
        51390 by: Jonathan Stokes

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On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 09:37:37PM +0200, Markus Stumpf wrote:
>What I found has helped a lot in this situation are the "badrcptpatterns"
>and "badrcptto" patch that are part of the spamcontrol patch available at
>    http://www.fehcom.de/qmail/qmail_en.html

We get people using one of our domains that way sometimes.  Quite annoying...
badrcptto is a wonderful thing...  I was using "bouncesaying" for a while,
but most of the spam double-bounces back to me that way.  Might as well
let the open relay host handle it, hopefully it will help get somone's
attention on that host.  ;-)

One thing we have found is that sometimes contacting the person listed in the
advertisement will help.  In one instance we had a spam sent out that included
a phone number instead of any electronic means of contact.  We called and
spoke with the business owner and reamed him a new one.  He had outsourced
the sending, so we got to tell him just how clueless they were.  :-)

Sean
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               Hello


I installed Qmail by following "life with Qmail" but can not start it until
now. I get the following Error Message when I start the Qmail Script (qmail
start).

     ./run 502: command not found
     ./run 102: command not found
     ./run 20: command not found

Have you an idea about the problem ?


          Thank you !






On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 08:29:36AM -0600, Sean Reifschneider wrote:
[snip]
> I'd try modifying qmail-smtpd so that it pauses when the todo gets
> too large.  Probably using some complicated scheme so that every
> incoming connection doesn't walk the todo, but that's just my style.
> ;-)

On one system that had problems with growing todo-queues I would just
reduce tcpserver's incoming concurrency for smtpd, that worked wonders.

Greetz, Peter
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On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 10:01:00PM +0100, James R Grinter wrote:
> Sean Reifschneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I'd try modifying qmail-smtpd so that it pauses when the todo gets
> > too large.  Probably using some complicated scheme so that every
> > incoming connection doesn't walk the todo, but that's just my style.
> 
> The biggest cause of this, that I have, is the expansion of mailing
> lists - one email in becomes many hundred outbound.

You must be using some broken mailinglistmanager.

Greetz, Peter
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On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 09:45:56AM -0400, Anthony Abby wrote:
[snip]
> When you install QMail /var/qmail/control/ is empty, and can remain so
> except for the me file.  Reading through the Rich Blum "Running QMail" book,
> there is supposed to be a /var/qmail/configure/ directory with .config and
> config-fast in it.  That's the directory that's missing.  If I look through
> /usr/local/src/qmail-1.03/ I see config-fast there and can run it from
> there, (just found it a few minutes ago), but should the configure directory
> have been created during install?  Just wondering.  Thanks.

The FreeBSD qmail port puts the configure scripts in
/var/qmail/configure/ so that you don't need to actually go into the
source directory. IIRC that book is based on FreeBSD and qmail.

Looks like Rich Blum hasn't even compiled his own qmail then. Shame!

Anyway, the scripts are in the source directory. As simple as that.

Greetz, Peter
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On Sat, Oct 28, 2000 at 02:14:22PM +0200, Olivier M. wrote:
[snip]
> > As far as I am aware - No.
>  
> Just an idea: what about "touching" the file in the queue, with a
> timestamp higher than any other mail in the queue ?  (not tested)

qmail doesn't spend all of it's time rescanning the queue, so that will
not have any immediate effects I'm afraid.

Greetz, Peter
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In particular, the details of how to set this up are on my HOWTO:

  http://www.summersault.com/chris/techno/qmail/qmail-antispam.html#useroption1

Chris

On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Ricardo Cerqueira wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 05:01:21PM -0400, Robert J. Adams wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > Anyone know if it's possible to do per user RBL/RSS spam checks? I.e..
> > something out of .qmail maybe?
>
> Search for rblchk. It's a cute little perl script which you can use with
> procmail or maildrop.
>
> RC
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Hi,

I have the problem when I download the qmail-1.03 tarball and install qmail
with 
make setup check I can't found the programm qmail in /var/qmail/bin. This
file is nessesary for the startscript.

The unpacking of the tarball and the installation I have made diffent times. 

How can I do the installation and can be sure that the file qmail will be
generated.

Regards,
Ruprecht
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did you run a "make" before "make setup check?"

-----Original Message-----
From: Ruprecht Helms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 9:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: No qmail in /var/qmail/bin


Hi,

I have the problem when I download the qmail-1.03 tarball and install qmail
with 
make setup check I can't found the programm qmail in /var/qmail/bin. This
file is nessesary for the startscript.

The unpacking of the tarball and the installation I have made diffent times.


How can I do the installation and can be sure that the file qmail will be
generated.

Regards,
Ruprecht
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INTERNOLIX   Standards for Ebusiness
------------------------------------------------------------

INTERNOLIX AG
Ruprecht Helms
System-Engineer

http://www.internolix.com
mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Weiherstr. 20                    Tel: +49-[0]7533-9945-71
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On 30 Oct 2000, at 15:47, Ruprecht Helms wrote:

> I have the problem when I download the qmail-1.03 tarball and install
> qmail with make setup check I can't found the programm qmail in
> /var/qmail/bin.

Who told you there should be such program?

> This file is nessesary for the startscript.

That startscript is badly broken, then.

Get a decent one, for example at lwq.w3.to.

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Title: How does one set the return-path different from the sender?

The header <Return-path> needs to refer to a particular address unrelated
to the sender. This is to have bounced emails handled internally.

Is there a way to have qmail overwrite the return-path header value with
a set address rather than the sender's address?

Toby Steel
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





Title: How does one configure a 1-way open relay?

How does one set up qmail as a oneway outgoing email only relay?
Of course one does not want an open relay to be accessible to incoming
SMTP messages, but we need to have sender/recipient be anyone/anyone.

I have remove control/rcpthosts to enable the open relay, but I need
to ensure that message requests come from the local network and
not from anywhere else. Do you think this is a firewall configuration issue?
I.e. place the mail-server in between firewalls and accept only SMTP requests
from local IP. But wouldn't that prevent the handshake with a remote mailserver
to enable a message to be sent?

Toby Steel

Echoworx Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 





I get the following message in my logs when trying to send messages from
the IMP webmail client

qmail-inject: fatal: unable to parse this line: "\"alan"@celasmaya.edu.gt"

I don't understand which program along the line is generating this from:
field.




At 09:31 30.10.00 -0600, alan wrote:
>I get the following message in my logs when trying to send messages from
>the IMP webmail client
>
>qmail-inject: fatal: unable to parse this line: "\"alan"@celasmaya.edu.gt"
>
>I don't understand which program along the line is generating this from:
>field.

I have heard that fetchmail can be configured to use qmail-inject instad of
the own mda.

Regards,
Ruprecht
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        Hello, I am trying to setup qmailanalog  -  first of all my log files look 
like this 'Oct 30 10:32:08 flashburn qmail: 972919928.511859 new msg 103249' so 
I assume that I need to strip the 'Oct 30 10:32:08 flashburn qmail:' how do I do 
that???   Also, once that's streaming in good, what do I need to run???   any
help would be appreciated!!!  Thanks!!!

                Jesse




> Hello, I am trying to setup qmailanalog  -  first of all my log files look
> like this 'Oct 30 10:32:08 flashburn qmail: 972919928.511859 new msg
103249' so
> I assume that I need to strip the 'Oct 30 10:32:08 flashburn qmail:' how
do I do
> that???   Also, once that's streaming in good, what do I need to run???
any
> help would be appreciated!!!  Thanks!!!

First of all you can read the documentation, it explains how to use matchup.
Assuming your qmailanalog is in /usr/local/qmailanalog, check out
/usr/local/qmailanalog/doc/MATCHUP.

This is from MATCHUP:
=[begin]=

To remove the "Aug 1 05:30:08 host qmail:" added by syslogd, feed your
logs through

   awk '{$1="";$2="";$3="";$4="";$5="";print}'

Note that the syslog mechanism is inherently unreliable: it does not
guarantee that all messages will be logged. For reliable logs, try the
logging utilities in the daemontools package.

=[end]=

Enjoy.

example:

cat /var/log/maillog | awk '{$1="";$2="";$3="";$4="";$5="";print}' >
/tmp/maillog.new
cat /tmp/maillog.new | /usr/local/qmailanalog/bin/matchup >
/tmp/maillog.matchup
cat /tmp/maillog.matchup | /usr/local/qmailanalog/bin/zoverall

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    Im trying to apply a big-concurrency path, but when I try to
recompile qmail, it shows a mesg like this:

    OPS, your system's FD_SET() has a hidden limit of 1024
descriptors...

    What kernel parameter should I change to this work?

    Thanks...



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On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 03:51:32PM -0200, Fernando Costa de Almeida wrote:
> 
>     Im trying to apply a big-concurrency path, but when I try to
> recompile qmail, it shows a mesg like this:
> 
>     OPS, your system's FD_SET() has a hidden limit of 1024
> descriptors...
> 
>     What kernel parameter should I change to this work?

I added '-DFD_SETSIZE=16384' to conf-cc in the qmail source tree, that
worked wonders.

No need to edit actual kernel include files.

Greetz, Peter
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"James T. Perry" wrote:
> 
> Alexander Jernejcic wrote:
> >
> > hi,
> > only for my interest: was this from  Money Maker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ?
> > i received that today.

Oh, crap... you mean to tell me that the qmail list is the reason I'm
suddenly getting spammed?

God help me... and I kept my e-mail clean for so long...

This makes me angry. What can we do about it?

-Stephen-




On Sun, 29 Oct 2000, Felix von Leitner wrote:

[...] 
> PS: If anyone is interested in a mailing list about technical qmail
> issues, please tell me. 

Please.


 - ask

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I don't think they have your personal email adres, maybe they have a bunch
of mailgroups which they spam ?


-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Bosch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 7:12 PM
To: qmail
Subject: Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on
this list...




"James T. Perry" wrote:
>
> Alexander Jernejcic wrote:
> >
> > hi,
> > only for my interest: was this from  Money Maker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ?
> > i received that today.

Oh, crap... you mean to tell me that the qmail list is the reason I'm
suddenly getting spammed?

God help me... and I kept my e-mail clean for so long...

This makes me angry. What can we do about it?

-Stephen-





>>>>> "Jeroen" == Jeroen ten Berge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I don't think they have your personal email adres, maybe they have a
> bunch of mailgroups which they spam ?

Nah...they'd have his address. My e-mail has been spam-free for the
last 8 months, and now I'm starting to receive more...If I had known
this would happen I would have started off by subscribing to lists
with brett-qmail and brett-ezmlm style addresses so I would be able to
figure which lists the harvesters were on, but no luck here. I'm now
on about 6 lists and subscribe to several newsgroups, so the spam
could be coming from any...wherever it is coming from, it is addressed
to my personal address, and a lot of qmail'ers have been getting spam
lately...
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Hello ,
does anybody know a real good documentation for qmail running with
vpopmail? I cant get it work. Thank you very much for help.
so long

Hans-Juergen






I'm trying to write an efficient C interface to feed messages with large 
recipient lists (500k+ subs) to qmail.

I've set up a pipe to qmail-queue in the style of qmail.c and ezmlm, except 
I'm not using the substdio library.

The pipe works fine for small distribution lists, but I'm getting consistent 
blocking after writing about 10KB of addresses (around 400 recipients) to the 
pipe. qmail-queue is blocked in read() and my returns EAGAIN indefinitely on 
write(), or blocks indefinitely without O_NONBLOCK set.

Obvious stuff:

 1. set O_NONBLOCK on the fds to which I'm writing
 2. double-checked validity of data written to pipe: null-terminated,
    no address exceeding 1003 bytes, all recipient addresses preceded
    w/ 'T'
 3. Checking return value of write() and writing in multiple passes,
    as necessary

Am I missing something? Anyone else successfully written a C interface to 
qmail-queue they'd be willing to share?

Thanks,

-Jeff





On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 12:28:06PM -0800, Jeff Mayzurk wrote:
> I'm trying to write an efficient C interface to feed messages with large 
> recipient lists (500k+ subs) to qmail.
> 
> I've set up a pipe to qmail-queue in the style of qmail.c and ezmlm, except 
> I'm not using the substdio library.
> 
> The pipe works fine for small distribution lists, but I'm getting consistent 
> blocking after writing about 10KB of addresses (around 400 recipients) to the 
> pipe. qmail-queue is blocked in read() and my returns EAGAIN indefinitely on 
> write(), or blocks indefinitely without O_NONBLOCK set.

Sounds like an OS bug. If you're sure that qmail-queue is sitting on the pipe read
and you're sitting on a pipe write to the same pipe. What OS? Can you test your code
on another box with a different kernel/OS?
 
> Am I missing something? Anyone else successfully written a C interface to 
> qmail-queue they'd be willing to share?

Plenty of people have done it via qmail-inject with larger numbers than that,
and qmail-inject doesn't do anything special. Certainly there is no need for you
to go thru the machinations of non-blocking I/O, etc.


Regards.





>Sounds like an OS bug. If you're sure that qmail-queue is sitting on the pipe 
read
>and you're sitting on a pipe write to the same pipe. What OS? Can you test 
your code
>on another box with a different kernel/OS?

Solaris 2.7. I'm beginning to suspect the same thing myself.

-Jeff





   Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 12:28:06 -0800 (PST)
   From: Jeff Mayzurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

   The pipe works fine for small distribution lists, but I'm getting consistent 
   blocking after writing about 10KB of addresses (around 400 recipients) to the 
   pipe. qmail-queue is blocked in read() and my returns EAGAIN indefinitely on 
   write(), or blocks indefinitely without O_NONBLOCK set.

You need two pipes to send information to qmail-queue.  In which order
are you writing and closing them?

qmail-queue reads the mail message first from descriptor 0--it reads
all data until the pipe is closed.  Then it reads the address
information from descriptor 1.  The error you are describing is
exactly what would happen if you write more than PIPE_BUF bytes (often
10240) to descriptor 1 before you close descriptor 0 after writing the
message to it.

Ian




On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 01:29:49PM -0800, Ian Lance Taylor wrote:
>    Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 12:28:06 -0800 (PST)
>    From: Jeff Mayzurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
>    The pipe works fine for small distribution lists, but I'm getting consistent 
>    blocking after writing about 10KB of addresses (around 400 recipients) to the 
>    pipe. qmail-queue is blocked in read() and my returns EAGAIN indefinitely on 
>    write(), or blocks indefinitely without O_NONBLOCK set.
> 
> You need two pipes to send information to qmail-queue.  In which order
> are you writing and closing them?

That sounds right to me, well spotted. So qmail-queue is not reading the same pipe
that the program is writing to.


Regards.






>You need two pipes to send information to qmail-queue.  In which order
>are you writing and closing them?
>
>qmail-queue reads the mail message first from descriptor 0--it reads
>all data until the pipe is closed.  Then it reads the address
>information from descriptor 1.  The error you are describing is
>exactly what would happen if you write more than PIPE_BUF bytes (often
>10240) to descriptor 1 before you close descriptor 0 after writing the
>message to it.

Exactly--that's it. I was closing descriptor 0 only after I finishing writing 
to descriptor 1.

Is this perhaps appropriate for the qmail-queue manpage or FAQ?

Thanks for your help.

-Jeff





On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 01:41:11PM -0800, Jeff Mayzurk wrote:
[snip]
> 
> Exactly--that's it. I was closing descriptor 0 only after I finishing writing 
> to descriptor 1.
> 
> Is this perhaps appropriate for the qmail-queue manpage or FAQ?

Yes, very. That's why it's in the manpage already :)

DESCRIPTION
       qmail-queue  reads  a  mail message from descriptor 0.  It
       then reads envelope information  from  descriptor  1.   It
       places  the  message  into  the  outgoing queue for future
       delivery by qmail-send.

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On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 12:02:55AM +0100, Peter van Dijk wrote:
>DESCRIPTION
>       qmail-queue  reads  a  mail message from descriptor 0.  It
>       then reads envelope information  from  descriptor  1.   It
>       places  the  message  into  the  outgoing queue for future
>       delivery by qmail-send.

Yeah, I read through that and while it implies that you terminate the
session by doing a close, it doesn't say that.  It could, for example,
terminate it by a line consisting only of '.'...

I'd change it to read:

qmail-queue reads a message from descriptor 0, terminated by a close().
[...]

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>On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 12:02:55AM +0100, Peter van Dijk wrote:
>>DESCRIPTION
>>       qmail-queue  reads  a  mail message from descriptor 0.  It
>>       then reads envelope information  from  descriptor  1.   It
>>       places  the  message  into  the  outgoing queue for future
>>       delivery by qmail-send.
>
>Yeah, I read through that and while it implies that you terminate the
>session by doing a close, it doesn't say that.  It could, for example,
>terminate it by a line consisting only of '.'...
>
>I'd change it to read:
>
>qmail-queue reads a message from descriptor 0, terminated by a close().
>[...]
>

It also doesn't state the requirement that these operations must be 
serialized. Yes, the implication is there, but it's hardly what I'd call 
clear.

Beter yet:

  "qmail-queue reads a message from descriptor 0. After EOF is received
   on descriptor 0, it reads envelope information from descriptor 1."

By the way, does anyone have any interest in comparing notes on really high 
volume qmail configs? I'm looking for performance in the range of 200-250k 
remote deliveries per hour. We're halfway there with relatively few 
modifications on a modest dual-processor Sun. Before we really start digging 
into the code (or throwing more hardware at it), I'd like to hear from others 
who are dealing with similar volumes.

Thanks,

-Jeff





At 10/30/00 01:21 AM , Brett Randall wrote:
> >>>>> "Davide" == Davide Dozza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>Davide>  Any suggestion?
>
>http://www.halisp.net/halisp/reply-to-harmful.html

That's nice, but note also:

http://www.metasystema.org/essays/reply-to-useful.mhtml

Chip Rosenthal's case is not the last word, not by any stretch of the 
imagination. One has only to look at the large number of dissenting 
opinions in the Considered Harmful Forum to see that.

Davide, I don't know of a solution to your problem; I suspect you may have 
to write one yourself, or install an MLM.

                                                 --Kai MacTane
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>>>>> "Kai" == Kai MacTane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> That's nice, but note also:
> http://www.metasystema.org/essays/reply-to-useful.mhtml

Well, I guess it comes down to personal preference. In my time, I've
seen /many/ personal e-mails end up on mailing lists, and I've had it
happen myself a few times. I am thankful for lists that don't set
reply to, since most people I deal with (including myself) prefer
reply-to-all. I don't have time to sift through all newsgroups and
lists all the time, and having people reply to my personal address as
well as the list suits me all ways... HOWEVER, in saying that, I would
really like to see more MUA's with Reply (using Reply-To defaulting to
From), Reply-To-All and Reply-To-List (reply to the mailing list
field)...

But hey, this is life
-- 
"See, you not only have to be a good coder to create a system like
Linux, you have to be a sneaky bastard too."

- Linus Torvalds




* Christophe Andreoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> but anyway I have to install Qmail on my SUSE Linux.  I followed the
> documentation "life with Qmail"

Check http://www.fehcom.com/ for installation instructions for SuSE. SuSE
sucks big in many regards, their startup procedures being among them. Dave,
you should add a link to that site in LWQ.

Anyway, I'd recommend using daemontools over a SysV init
script. http://pobox.com/~tu/qmail-conf.html will certainly help you
with that.

> (See attached file: qmail.txt)

That was a DOS file. Did you break it while mailing it or is it broken
on your system? Open it with a decent editor. Do you see something like
'"qmail.txt" [noeol][dos] 70L, 2455C'? Then run it through recode.
-- 
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hi people ! 

how do i create a new ssl-certificate (which was created with the
apache-ssl installation and only works for 1 month!) ? thanks for help

Martin 

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I thought this was a qmail list.  Oh well...
I'm not positive, but I think you have to use
the -make-apache-certificate-work-longer
option while compiling qmail.

:-)

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Kos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 6:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: apache ssl



hi people ! 

how do i create a new ssl-certificate (which was created with the
apache-ssl installation and only works for 1 month!) ? thanks for help

Martin 

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Hubbard, David writes:

> I thought this was a qmail list.  Oh well...
> I'm not positive, but I think you have to use
> the -make-apache-certificate-work-longer
> option while compiling qmail.
holy shit..sorry... i've missed the right mailinglist... .. it's late.. i
think i have to catch some hours of sleep *lol*

bye

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Martin Kos wrote:

> hi people !
>
> how do i create a new ssl-certificate (which was created with the
> apache-ssl installation and only works for 1 month!) ? thanks for help
>
> Martin
>
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Martin,

 Perhaps this question is better asked in an ssl specific forum.  You may
also try your query at www.google.com.

Sincerely,

J.P. Racine
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Hello,
I�m running qmail with vpopmail. Everything works fine so far, but
the messages don�t get delivered in the Users Maildir. They always
get stucked in the queue/intd and in queue/todo. Is it a
qmail-inject error? Does anybody know how to fix that problem?
Thank you very much and so long

Hans-Juergen






On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 12:57:52AM +0100, Schwarz Hans-Juergen wrote:
> Hello,
> I�m running qmail with vpopmail. Everything works fine so far, but
> the messages don�t get delivered in the Users Maildir. They always
> get stucked in the queue/intd and in queue/todo. Is it a
> qmail-inject error? Does anybody know how to fix that problem?
> Thank you very much and so long

http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html#trigger

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hi guys. just a question.

i've applied qmail-ldap-1.03-20000701.patch and it's working fine. i
also have pop3 and imap working (courier-imap 1.2.1). Now i need to use
SMTP AUTH so i can deal with roaming users. 
i've applied qmail-smtpd-auth-0.26, but i can't get it work. docs say
that i need checkpassword and cmd5checkpw, but they don't user ldap.
how can i make it work?  does anybody has something like this?

thanks in advance

juan




Hello,
 
I have qmail and vpopmail working but I have two questions I cannot seem to solve:
 
1. It's not logging, or at least I can't find where it logs. I have /var/log/qmail/qmail-smtp and /var/log/qmail/qmail-send but these are empty.
 
2. It won't forward. I'm writing from the local LAN but whenever I try to send mail outside of my virtuals it errors "not in my list of rcpthosts". So how do I get it to send mail to wherever I want without turning it in to an "open relay"?
 
Your help appreciated,
Tim




Hi,

    My network has 2 connections to the internet, 2 different backbones.

    I'm thinking about to write the dns registry (mx record) with 2 ip
addresses. Is this the best way to avoid breaks in my email service? In the
right case, should I start one tcpserver to each ip address?

Best regards,

Ari






On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 11:06:36PM -0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>     My network has 2 connections to the internet, 2 different backbones.

Stop right there. It's not qmail's job to act as a router, its the
network layer's job to route packets. Are the seperate routes to your
network advertised on the Internet so packets follow the best link in?

>     I'm thinking about to write the dns registry (mx record) with 2 ip
> addresses. Is this the best way to avoid breaks in my email service? In the
> right case, should I start one tcpserver to each ip address?

Remote MTAs will pick an IP without knowledge of which advertised IP
is the best IP to send data to given the network topology. Your scheme
won't result in traffic taking the best route in/out of your network,
though if you give both IPs the same MX preference inbound SMTP
connections may balance between your two links.

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my qmail system only support outlook receive email
netscape can't,password error,why?
how to correct it?
thanks




On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 02:14:42PM +0800, shaolei wrote:
>
> my qmail system only support outlook receive email
> netscape can't,password error,why?
> how to correct it?

Are you using POP or IMAP? What authentification method are you using? 
You are not giving enough information.

/magnus

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wild guess:
try and set "Use SSL ..." in netscape preferences / mail servers
to "Never"


>On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 02:14:42PM +0800, shaolei wrote:
>>
>> my qmail system only support outlook receive email
>> netscape can't,password error,why?
>> how to correct it?
>
>Are you using POP or IMAP? What authentification method are you using? 
>You are not giving enough information.





On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 02:08:14AM +0200, Felix von Leitner wrote:
> PS: If anyone is interested in a mailing list about technical qmail
> issues, please tell me.  I am considering starting a qmail mailing list
> where Outlook users can subscribe in the first place and were emails
> from people who can't quote are rejected.  Then we could stop wasting
> time with whining lusers who couldn't even install qmail themselves if
> their life depended on it and discuss some issues.


There is definitively a need for a mailinglist fork to qmail-users and
qmail-developers.


/magnus

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Dear every one:   
 i have installed qmail+vmailmgr ,and can use real user for pop mail .but the virtual user can't get receive mail .it return a message that have no user on the system.what problem it may have.
                                    rom.                         








               Hello


I installed Qmail by following "life with Qmail" but can not start it until
now. I get the following Error Message when I start the Qmail Script (qmail
start).

     ./run 502: command not found
     ./run 102: command not found
     ./run 20: command not found

Have you an idea about the problem ?


          Thank you !







I have installed qmail and it seems to more or less work.

I can connect to POP3 but my usernames/passwords are never authorised. I am 
using the setup as described in the FAQ.

I am using SuSE Linux.

Any help appreciated.





Hi,
        I have a problem about aliases from sendmail. Now my system uses
sendmail and aliases. I want to change to be qmail and want to keep
/etc/aliases. My problem is about aliases.

        aaa:    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        bbb:    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        ccc:    [EMAIL PROTECTED]

        From my old system (sendmail) ,this server (host1.com) will
recieve mail from anyone who sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Such as if anyone 
sent mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], it will check in /etc/aliases then forward
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] that is an exist user on localhost. 
        But in case of fastforward when anyone sent mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
, it won't not forward to [EMAIL PROTECTED] How can I solve this problem
? 

Regards,
Effy. 






Hi,

I have a problem with my qmail / vpopmail setup.  Every hour, my
users/assign file gets overwritten by what looks like a version created from
/etc/passwd.

I have not got any jobs running to enable this, so what could be happening?

Regards,

Jonathan Stokes


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