qmail Digest 10 Sep 2000 10:00:01 -0000 Issue 1119

Topics (messages 48359 through 48373):

urget help reuired ! !!  complex mail sever design
        48359 by: reach_prashant.zeenext.com

Re: users/assign needs to be same on multiple servers (NIS?)
        48360 by: Peter van Dijk

sendmail equivalent command on qmail
        48361 by: Alfredo Batista Rguez, Dpto Informatica
        48369 by: Eric Cox

Test, please disregard
        48362 by: Nick Lekic

QUOTA IN VPOPMAIL
        48363 by: tigre21.gamma.qnet.com.pe

deferral: Out_of_memory!
        48364 by: Alfredo Batista Rguez, Dpto Informatica
        48365 by: Steve Wolfe
        48366 by: Alfredo Batista Rguez, Dpto Informatica

Timezone
        48367 by: Thomas Zehetbauer
        48368 by: Alexander Pennace
        48370 by: Russ Allbery

Re: ? -> Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
        48371 by: Brian Ghidinelli

vpopmail help
        48372 by: Kris Keele
        48373 by: Dale Miracle

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   hello friends  


        what is qmqpc ? and for what purpose  people are using it ?
i have set up qmail on three servers one running qmail and qmqpd daemon  ,
which receives mails from out side world but its not able to send mails to
out side world 

  as per the docs  that i have  , i have doen following 


1>  i have configurd ~control/qmqpservers  file on my gateway mechine 
,and interior mail host which are also running qmail and qmqpd daemon this
mechine is supposed to accept mails from gateway mechine only 

2>   i have also created ~control/ldapcluster  ,on my gateway mechine and
interior mechine , i am using only single ldap server is this 
file required ?
 
3>  and also ~control/idhost file also on both mechine , both of them r
running qmqpd daemon , but i think qmqpd needs to run only on gateway
mechine ? isn't it ? 

4> created link from  /var/qmail/bin/qmail-queue  which is  pointing to
qmail-qmqpc 

5> at last restarted qmail and qmqpd daemon 

  
  is following set up possible/recommended  for production environment
sending and receiving millions of mails a day  using qmail and qmqpc/qmqpd 
etc  


all these qmail host are using same LDAP server , 

          host-1    host-2  (  running qmail-ldap  )


host-1-1        host-2-2     host-3-3   ( running qmail-ldap ) 


  host-1 and host-2  are MX for mydomain.com   , they are in round robbin ,


 after receiving mails for domain.com  they shoul forward mails to  host
where users mailstore is located  ( it should  get the host from 
 users ldap entries , qmqpc is capable of doing this )  , tareget host will
accept the mail and deliver it in to the users mailstore .



  so for this kind of setup , where i need to run qmail,qmqpd,qmqpc  and
what ~control/config files are mendatory 


thanks 
Prashant Desai







On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 01:33:43PM +1000, Brett Randall wrote:
[snip]
> 
> Now, I know some of you are thinking NIS & NFS..."look in the FAQ". That is
> fine, I have created the assign and cdb files with no problems. But I need
> these files to be distributed (note: different from simply accessible)
> across the network as soon as qmail-newu is run. Now, I can hack qmail-newu
> a bit to call some other command to do the updating, but if possible I want
> to be able to distribute via NIS. I'd prefer to not have to implement LDAP

NIS was never designed to do such tasks.

What I currently do at vuurwerk.nl: we have a /conf structure that's
on our central fileserver, and that is mounted by just about all boxes.
A separate 'config' box (that has some other tasks too but doesn't handle
any customer-services) creates files in /conf/mail, for rcpthosts,
virtualdomains, users/assign and the like. These are updated from our
central mySQL every 10 minutes.

Each mailserver picks up it's information from this /conf also with 10
minute intervals. Any change will have reached all mailserver within 20
minutes, therefore.

Works for us :)

User homedirs are indeed mounted over NFS, but we're trying to get rid
of NIS as much as we can. The mailboxes using users/assign (and a
separate file for POP3 authentication using my own checkpassword module)
are a very good step forward in this respect.

Greetz, Peter
-- 
dataloss networks




Helo people:
        I have a bit question. What is the equivlent command on QMAIL of :

sendmail -U -f [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This commnd line are used by X daemon to send messaje to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] with statistical resume.

I read about Qmail-inject, but I'm not sure that It's correct.

Thank's Al

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"Alfredo Batista Rguez, Dpto Informatica" wrote:
> 
> Helo people:
>         I have a bit question. What is the equivlent command on QMAIL of :
> 
> sendmail -U -f [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> This commnd line are used by X daemon to send messaje to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] with statistical resume.
> 
> I read about Qmail-inject, but I'm not sure that It's correct.
> 

See: http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html and look 
for section 4.2.2.

Eric




@HOME e-mail system went down few days ago and e-mail from this list
just stopped flowing in.  Now they are back up but still nothing

Nick





Dears Dave and Friends

I need your help.
I have a problem with the quotas for my configuration....
I will like than the command ./vsetuserquota
make effect on the directory /usr/vpopmail/users 
and also on /usr/vpopmail/domains/

I tried the command ./vsetuserquota and this no make effect on 
/usr/vpopmail/users
In my system this directory is very important because
there are my principal users , these users have a authentification
of this way:
"user" and "password" and not "user%virtualdomain" and "password"
This for me is important.

Please, Can you say how should setup the quotas for users into
of /usr/vpopmail/users ? 


Maybe I would have modific the script? 


Please help me ..
and response as soon as possible


Thanks 
and Regards from Lima









Helo again:

        I need that each messaje for a user "postal" wil be delivery or pass
to a PERL program that analyze each messaje content.

        I think that when I write on .qmail of user "postal" a rediret like
this:
        | /home/postal/bin/myanalyzerprogram

.... solve the problem... BUT, an Error are reported on current log.
This are a copy:

@4000000039ba4e95074dc234 starting delivery 16: msg 52966 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED]
@4000000039ba4e95074e00b4 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
@4000000039ba4e952260972c delivery 16: deferral: Out_of_memory!/
@4000000039ba4e952260cddc status: local 0/10 remote 0/20

Anybody can help me!!!!

Thank's Alfredo

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>
>I think that when I write on .qmail of user "postal" a rediret like
>this:
>| /home/postal/bin/myanalyzerprogram


>@4000000039ba4e95074dc234 starting delivery 16: msg 52966 to local
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>@4000000039ba4e95074e00b4 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
>@4000000039ba4e952260972c delivery 16: deferral: Out_of_memory!/
>@4000000039ba4e952260cddc status: local 0/10 remote 0/20

>Anybody can help me!!!!

  It sounds like your Perl program is either reaching the imposed memory
limits, or if there are none, is exhausting the system memory.     That's a
very Bad Thing. ; )

steve








> >
> >I think that when I write on .qmail of user "postal" a redirect like
> >this:
> >| /home/postal/bin/myanalyzerprogram
>
>
> >@4000000039ba4e95074dc234 starting delivery 16: msg 52966 to local
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >@4000000039ba4e95074e00b4 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
> >@4000000039ba4e952260972c delivery 16: deferral: Out_of_memory!/
> >@4000000039ba4e952260cddc status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
>
> >Anybody can help me!!!!
>
>   It sounds like your Perl program is either reaching the imposed memory
> limits, or if there are none, is exhausting the system memory.     That's a
> very Bad Thing. ; )
>
> steve

Well, who impose memory limits?

I redirect mail messaje to a file on .qmail, like this:
   | cat > ./messaje
then at shell execute: cat messaje | mynlyzerprogram
and all was Ok.
It can be the solution. How I can execute that command line for each
messaje that arrive to user postal???

Thank's

Alfredo

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Hi!

I have been alarmed by a posting on linux-kernel that there are several
mail applications and MTA's that emit incorrect date/timestamp values.

I sent a test message using qmail-inject and found that timestamps are
generated using UTC but the correct timezone specification (UTC/GMT/+0000)
is missing. Instead the pseudo suffix -0000 is used which to my limited
knowledge means that the system has no knowledge about it's timezone.

Because mutt is emitting correct timestamps I do not suspect a
misconfiguration of my system.

Tom

Chemists don't die, they just stop to react.
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On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 08:12:41PM +0200, Thomas Zehetbauer wrote:
> I have been alarmed by a posting on linux-kernel that there are several
> mail applications and MTA's that emit incorrect date/timestamp values.
> 
> I sent a test message using qmail-inject and found that timestamps are
> generated using UTC but the correct timezone specification (UTC/GMT/+0000)
> is missing. Instead the pseudo suffix -0000 is used which to my limited
> knowledge means that the system has no knowledge about it's timezone.
> 
> Because mutt is emitting correct timestamps I do not suspect a
> misconfiguration of my system.

This is a very frequently asked question.

http://qmail.faqts.com/

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Alexander Pennace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 08:12:41PM +0200, Thomas Zehetbauer wrote:

>> I have been alarmed by a posting on linux-kernel that there are several
>> mail applications and MTA's that emit incorrect date/timestamp values.

>> I sent a test message using qmail-inject and found that timestamps are
>> generated using UTC but the correct timezone specification
>> (UTC/GMT/+0000) is missing. Instead the pseudo suffix -0000 is used
>> which to my limited knowledge means that the system has no knowledge
>> about it's timezone.

>> Because mutt is emitting correct timestamps I do not suspect a
>> misconfiguration of my system.

> This is a very frequently asked question.

> http://qmail.faqts.com/

No, that isn't the question he's asking.  That's an answer to the question
"why doesn't qmail use the local time zone," which isn't the problem.

Thomas, the difference between +0000 and -0000 is that the former
indicates that the originating machine is physically in the Greenwich time
zone, whereas the latter indicates that the machine may be in any actual
time zone but the time was generated in UTC for some reason.

-0000 is therefore the correct time zone for what qmail is doing; +0000
would incorrectly imply that all qmail servers were running on machines in
England.

For more details, see:
  <http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-drums-msg-fmt-08.txt>

| The form "+0000" SHOULD be used to indicate a time zone at Universal
| Time. Though "-0000" also indicates Universal Time, it is used to
| indicate that the time was generated on a system that may be in a local
| time zone other than Universal Time and therefore indicates that the
| date-time contains no information about the local time zone.

-- 
Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED])             <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>





> Anyway, the status code 4.4.2 is telling us it should have been
> deferred.  It seems like hotmail doesn't like to have any messages in
> its queue :) Are you sure this isn't a deferral notice?  I guess since
> it says "Failure" in the Subject we have to assume it's not.

No - they are indeed going back as bounces to the user.  The nice thing is
that prontomail/commtouch doesn't include the bounced message - just a
failure notice so people sending us mail "lose" their mail (no sent folder
either - brilliant!)
 
> X.4.2   Bad connection
> 
>           The outbound connection was established, but was otherwise
>           unable to complete the message transaction, either because
>           of time-out, or inadequate connection quality. This is
>           useful only as a persistent transient error.

Thanks for the above!

> 
> > The odd thing about this is that we have two mail servers - one in New
> > Jersey on an occasionally unstable link and one in California at Above
> > which is always online and both trigger this error (randomly).
> 
> Interesting, but I can only find one MX record in the DNS for vfive.com.
> 
> $ host -t mx vfive.com
> vfive.com               MX      10 bmw.vfive.com

Exactly - the second mail server in California however serves a different
domain ddstorage.com which exhibits the same behavior (which is why I
posted here, seeing as the only obvious connection between the two is they
both run Qmail and Ezmlm).  I'm pager notified if that mail servers' SMTP
service goes offline for more than 1 minute so I'm confident it is online
and reachable.  

Chalk it up to large email providers being dumb?  What can we do to
prevent this - backup MX records possibly? 

Thanks for your help Aaron, 

Brian

(I accidentally posted this to ezmlm@list rather than qmail@list, my
apologies!)




I have setup vpopmail on my server and I want to check my mail with Outlook
or Netscape. Has anyone been able to do this? Any help is greatly
appreciated.

Kris





Kris Keele wrote:
> 
> I have setup vpopmail on my server and I want to check my mail with Outlook
> or Netscape. Has anyone been able to do this? Any help is greatly
> appreciated.
> 
> Kris

Yes.  What is the problem?
-- 

Dale Miracle
System Administrator
Teoi Virtual Web Hosting


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