wolfgang zeikat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 5 August 2000 at 18:52:41 +0200
 >       Also sprach David Dyer-Bennet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 05.08.2000:
 >       So if you want to do your own bounce with your own
 >       message, *please* take the trouble to do it in a common enough
 >       bounce format that most tools that handle bounces will be able to
 > figure it
 >       out. 
 > 
 > what would be such a format?
 > "Returned Mail: User unknown" in the subject? or a MAILER-DAEMON
 > Return-Path? 
 > i hadnt thought about bounce handling tools yet, but rather about our
 > mostly german users here who tend to ignore automated bounces as "some
 > english error message i dont understand or dont care to understand" anyway.

Unfortunately I can't point you at a reliable recipe for "what works".
This is at least partly because the official standard (latest) format
is rarely used or supported, and everything else is ad-hoc.  The qmail
format is documented, and I think there's room to add additional text
in another language without breaking it, so that might be a relatively
easy way to proceed.  Or take advice from somebody more knowledgable
then me, there me be some good compendiums about "what works"
somewhere.

The qmail format is called QSBMF, and is documented at
http://cr.yp.to/proto/qsbmf.txt .  This file may also go along with
the qmail distribution.

 >       I do see not wanting to bounce 10 meg files; but how often does it
 >       happen, really?  
 > 
 > not very often. i had it happen with 90 meg tho, so i got careful here.

Is this that smaller / more expensive European bandwidth thing?  A 90
meg bounce going out of here would tie up some of the outgoing
bandwidth for a few hours (or less, if end-to-end throughput was
higher), but I doubt I'd even notice the slowdown; the things I notice
use up *incoming* rather than *outgoing* bandwidth.  And this is the
connectivity to the basement of my home, not a commercial location. 

I'd actually be inclined to set an *incoming* limit on what I was
willing to handle, and then be willing to bounce the whole thing if
necessary. 
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