qmail Digest 26 Apr 2000 10:00:01 -0000 Issue 983

Topics (messages 40598 through 40646):

Error at vpopmail
        40598 by: Irwan Hadi
        40633 by: Ken Jones

Re: Recipient MTA is rejecting bounces
        40599 by: Yusuf Goolamabbas
        40600 by: Petr Novotny
        40616 by: Bruno Wolff III
        40635 by: Russ Allbery

Qmail privacy
        40601 by: Kent Nilsen
        40611 by: Bob Rogers
        40617 by: John D. Mitchell
        40623 by: Dave Sill
        40626 by: Andre Oppermann
        40631 by: John D. Mitchell

Vpopmail error - No Mailbox
        40602 by: snowcrash
        40621 by: Ken Jones

Re: request for GNU (not djb) install info
        40603 by: Joost van Baal

webfrontend for .qmail editing
        40604 by: Robert Sander

Re: Qmail behind firewall question
        40605 by: Vincent Danen
        40607 by: Vincent Danen
        40608 by: Vincent Danen

pop3 error
        40606 by: Madhav

DNS setup
        40609 by: Steve Peace
        40610 by: Bob Rogers

Thanks, eric RE: queue-fix 1.4 won't compile on IRIX6.5.3m
        40612 by: John McCoy, Jr

Redirection help!!
        40613 by: jpatrick.writeme.com

Re: ezmlm response]
        40614 by: rvz

Re: Qmail IMAP AND Pop3 recomendations
        40615 by: Scott Gifford

Re: sendfail
        40618 by: Kai MacTane

removing name from distribution list
        40619 by: Vladislav.Valikhovsky.acs-gsg.com

Re: Internet mail
        40620 by: R.Ilker Gokhan
        40622 by: Dave Sill
        40624 by: R.Ilker Gokhan

Re: install-help!
        40625 by: Dave Sill

Re: temporary failure warning message
        40627 by: Dave Sill
        40634 by: Rogerio Brito
        40636 by: Russ Allbery
        40637 by: Peter Samuel

Re: Messages lost in queue?
        40628 by: Dave Sill

Re: system start script
        40629 by: Dave Sill

Re: some doubts in qmail
        40630 by: Dave Sill

setup of local delivery
        40632 by: Mikhail Kuzminsky

Login problems with courier-imap
        40638 by: Kristina
        40640 by: Andre Oppermann
        40644 by: Kristina
        40645 by: Chris Green
        40646 by: Kristina

Re: How do I enable user nobody to use qmail-inject?
        40639 by: Charles Werbick

Lotus Notes and qmail
        40641 by: John White

chopped messages
        40642 by: John Conover
        40643 by: Peter Samuel

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I got this error by checking mail at vpopmail
+OK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
+OK
-ERR aack, child crashed

What this mean then ?, how to fix it ?
this only happened when I use username, and not username@domain.
but I;ve update the /vpopmail/users as the FAQ said.

Thanks in advance ;)


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AFLHI 058009990407128029/089802---(102598//991024)




Irwan Hadi wrote:
> 
> I got this error by checking mail at vpopmail
> +OK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> +OK
> -ERR aack, child crashed
> 
> What this mean then ?, how to fix it ?
> this only happened when I use username, and not username@domain.
> but I;ve update the /vpopmail/users as the FAQ said.
> 
> Thanks in advance ;)
> 
> -------
> AFLHI 058009990407128029/089802---(102598//991024)

make sure your tcpserver for pop is running as root.

ken jones
inter7




> A bounce message bounced.  When this happens, qmail generates a
> double-bounce and tries to send it to the local postmaster address.  It
> uses the completely invalid envelope sender "#@[]" to ensure that
> double-bounces can't then bounce again and generate mail loops.
> 
> You apparently are forwarding postmaster mail to another system which is
> doing resolveable name checks on envelope senders, and doesn't like
> qmail's special double-bounce sender.

That is true, However I changed the forwarding to another system which
doesn't do resolveable name checks and yet the messages are continuing
to go the old system. (I changed /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-postmaster) and
restarted qmail. Is this appropiate ?

What are the alternatives to clear these messages from the queue

Also, Do people see the benifit in doing resolvable name checks. Doesn't
it hurt in the above scenario

Thanks, Yusuf





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On 25 Apr 00, at 19:36, Yusuf Goolamabbas wrote:

> That is true, However I changed the forwarding to another system which
> doesn't do resolveable name checks and yet the messages are continuing
> to go the old system. (I changed /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-postmaster)
> and restarted qmail. Is this appropiate ?

Unless your /var/qmail/control/doublebounceto says other than 
postmaster, this is appropriate. However, that doesn't clear the 
messages that have already been forwarded from postmaster to 
elsewhere.

> What are the alternatives to clear these messages from the queue

Well, if they cause that much trouble, there are ways to delete 
them. But I'd think they're mostly harmless, unless there's too 
many of them. (In that case, search the archives of this list; there 
have been way too many questions "How to delete all messages to 
person/host ****?" answered.)

> Also, Do people see the benifit in doing resolvable name checks.

I personally don't think they give you much benefits; what do you 
do if you get temporary DNS error? Temporarily reject the mail? I 
wouldn't like to see much of that. However, there _are_ cases 
where it can help, I believe. And I also think that any mail 
administrator is smart enough to count the odds and evens :-)

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.antek.cz
PGP key ID: 0x3BA9BC3F
-- Don't you know there ain't no devil there's just God when he's drunk.
                                                             [Tom Waits]




> Also, Do people see the benifit in doing resolvable name checks. Doesn't
> it hurt in the above scenario

It encourages spammers to abuse real domain names so that someone can sue
them. There have been a couple of successful law suits over sending spam
with someone else's domain name.

It keeps the bounce on the injecting system. This keeps your postmaster
from dealing with misconfigured email clients at other sites.




Yusuf Goolamabbas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> That is true, However I changed the forwarding to another system which
> doesn't do resolveable name checks and yet the messages are continuing
> to go the old system. (I changed /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-postmaster) and
> restarted qmail. Is this appropiate ?

You didn't actually need to restart qmail.  The problem that you're seeing
is probably just that previous messages are already in the queue and
qmail's already read the older .qmail file and figured out what addresses
to send them to.  It'll keep trying until they bounce, but all new
messages should now be going to the new machine.

-- 
Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED])             <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>




Hello,

I'm running qmail 1.01, which has been working perfectly for me. 
But once in a while a message double-bounces, and the message 
ends up in my mailbox.

The problem is that the entire message, including the text of the 
mail and any attachments, ends up in my mailbox, which again 
means I can read other peoples mail if it qmail doesn't know where 
to send it.

I can of course just be quiet about it and delete the mail as soon 
as I see it's not for my eyes, but it's still not fair to my users as I 
can potentially read private mail, and it's probably breaking some 
privacy law?

I see some others here have had double bounces end up in their 
mailbox. Do you have access to the entire message as well? Any 
tips how to fix the "problem"?

Kent R. Nilsen






   From: "Kent Nilsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 13:57:27 +0200

   Hello,

   I'm running qmail 1.01, which has been working perfectly for me. 
   But once in a while a message double-bounces, and the message 
   ends up in my mailbox.

   The problem is that the entire message, including the text of the 
   mail and any attachments, ends up in my mailbox, which again 
   means I can read other peoples mail if it qmail doesn't know where 
   to send it.

   I can of course just be quiet about it and delete the mail as soon 
   as I see it's not for my eyes, but it's still not fair to my users as I 
   can potentially read private mail, and it's probably breaking some 
   privacy law?

There are confidentiality issues, certainly, but you should be educating
your users that the only way to guarantee email privacy is to use PGP or
equivalent -- in which case you would get content you couldn't decrypt.
(Users also need to use valid return addresses when they send things,
whether or not they want you to see their bounces.)

   I see some others here have had double bounces end up in their 
   mailbox. Do you have access to the entire message as well? Any 
   tips how to fix the "problem"?

   Kent R. Nilsen

I'm of the opinion that it's better left alone.  It is usually helpful
for the user to see the content of their own bounces (in the single
bounce case) in order to help discover what needs resending, and it's
always helpful for sysadmins to see the content of double bounces so
that they can distinguish spam from misconfigured local users.

   Speaking of which, I notice that your "from" address and your
"reply-to" address are different . . . ?

                                        -- Bob Rogers




>>>>> "Kent" == Kent Nilsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...bounces include full-text of original message...]
> I can of course just be quiet about it and delete the mail as soon as I
> see it's not for my eyes, but it's still not fair to my users as I can
> potentially read private mail, and it's probably breaking some privacy
> law?

Why on earth would you (or anyone :-) believe that email is private unless
you explicitly make it so (by e.g., encrypting it)?

Take care,
        John




[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>I see some others here have had double bounces end up in their 
>mailbox. Do you have access to the entire message as well? Any 
>tips how to fix the "problem"?

You can use control/doublebounceto to direct double bounces to a
special address that throws them away unread, strips the message
bodies, or does some other processing.

-Dave




"John D. Mitchell" wrote:
> 
> >>>>> "Kent" == Kent Nilsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [...bounces include full-text of original message...]
> > I can of course just be quiet about it and delete the mail as soon as I
> > see it's not for my eyes, but it's still not fair to my users as I can
> > potentially read private mail, and it's probably breaking some privacy
> > law?
> 
> Why on earth would you (or anyone :-) believe that email is private unless
> you explicitly make it so (by e.g., encrypting it)?

Because it is supposed to be unless someone makes it public. And making
it public is against the law at least in Europe. For example last month
the supreme court of Switzerland has decided that emails are covered by
the same secrecy of letters as traditional snail-mail letters. So the
police has to obtain a court order to intercept, make copies and look
at your emails. The same goes for the EU but it's not tested with an
supreme court decision anywhere else AFAIK.

-- 
Andre




Since this has nothing more to do with qmail, this will be my last public
post on this.  I'll reply privately in anything further.

>>>>> "Andre" == Andre Oppermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>>>> "John D. Mitchell" writes:
[...]
>> Why on earth would you (or anyone :-) believe that email is private
>> unless you explicitly make it so (by e.g., encrypting it)?

> Because it is supposed to be unless someone makes it public.

Define "supposed to be"?  Nothing in the protocols gives a crap about
privacy.  If you're sending email across an open network with no real
control over who is going to receive a copy of the message and you *expect*
privacy then you're insane -- of course, nobody (in their right mind :-) is
accusing people/governments/etc. of actually acting rationally or with a
clue. :-)


> And making it public is against the law at least in Europe.

Who said anything about "making it public".  "Not public" != "private" in
precisely the case that this qmail user has brought up.  He's getting the
bounce messages because that can be helpful in fixing a broken email
system.  The fact that he may (inadvertently) read the core content of the
message while reading the bounce message means that the message is no
longer "private" but it's certainly not (yet :-) be made "public".


> For example last month the supreme court of Switzerland has decided that
> emails are covered by the same secrecy of letters as traditional
> snail-mail letters. So the police has to obtain a court order to
> intercept, make copies and look at your emails. The same goes for the EU
> but it's not tested with an supreme court decision anywhere else AFAIK.

Well, to the extent that the law coincides with the reality of how email
actually works that's swell.

Relying on "the law" to protect your privacy is just plain foolishness.

Take care,
        John





    I installed the RPM source files provided by Bruce Guenter and added the
vpopmail package from inter7.com.  After the initial installation everything
appeared to be working properly.  However, about a week later I started
recieving an error message "Sorry,_no_mailbox_here_by_that_name."  This is
happening on every user on every virtual domain I created.  These users all
exist.. and as I stated before.. worked fine.  I haven't changed anything
and have no idea where to start looking to solve the problem.  Anyone have
some ideas?

    Daniel Daley
    [EMAIL PROTECTED]





snowcrash wrote:
> 
>     I installed the RPM source files provided by Bruce Guenter and added the
> vpopmail package from inter7.com.  After the initial installation everything
> appeared to be working properly.  However, about a week later I started
> recieving an error message "Sorry,_no_mailbox_here_by_that_name."  This is
> happening on every user on every virtual domain I created.  These users all
> exist.. and as I stated before.. worked fine.  I haven't changed anything
> and have no idea where to start looking to solve the problem.  Anyone have
> some ideas?
> 
>     Daniel Daley
>     [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Check for a cron job that rebuilds /var/qmail/users/assign.
It may be over writting the file.

Ken Jones
Inter7




On Mon, Apr 24, 2000 at 11:52:25AM -0500, Mate Wierdl wrote:
> From: Mate Wierdl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Qmail List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Mail-Followup-To: Qmail List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> This is a bit offtopic: I was about to upload an init/run scripts
> package when I noticed they would not work properly.  The reason: the
> install and mkdir programs of the GNU fileutils package on RH 6.1 do
> not handle special bits properly.  Consider

On Debian GNU/Linux, version 2.2, which comes with fileutils
4.0l, I see mkdir behaving properly, while install seems broken:

root@nagy /tmp/c# install -d -m2755 install
root@nagy /tmp/c# mkdir -p -m2755 mkdir
root@nagy /tmp/c# ls -ld install mkdir
drwxr-xr-x    2 root     root         1024 Apr 25 14:28 install
drwxr-sr-x    2 root     root         1024 Apr 25 14:28 mkdir

On a SuSE 6.3 box, with fileutils 4.0, the result is:

drwxr-xr-x   2 vanbaal  users        1024 Apr 25 14:39 install
drwxr-xr-x   2 vanbaal  users        1024 Apr 25 14:39 mkdir

I think mkdir was fixed in 4.0l, the fileutils changelog says:

1999-11-17  Jim Meyering  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

        * src/mkdir.c (S_IRWXUGO): Define if necessary.
        (main): Use chmod to set the permissions if bits other than those
        of S_IRWXUGO were requested.  Reported by Sami Farin.

Apparently, this fix didn't make it into install.c.

I'll report a bug against it. Thanks for pointing this out.

Let's mail followups to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bye,

Joost van Baal






Hi All!

I am searching for a webfrontend for editing the .qmail Files. I do not need
a complete Webmail-system or something similar.
User should be able to log in using their browsers and then edit their .qmail
files. I have not find anything searching the qmail.org site and if there
is no such thing, I have to do the work.

Greetings
-- 
Robert Sander                                 www.gurubert.de




On Mon, 24 Apr 2000, Peter Samuel wrote:

> > Hello.  I just setup a server for my father and I installed qmail because
> > I use it here and it works great.  His situation is a little different
> > from my own, however.  POP3 works great starting from inetd, but qmail
> > gives errors.  The error I get is:
> > 
> > tcpserver: fatal: unable to figure out port number for geceventures.com
> > 
> > I'm starting qmail-smtpd with:
> > 
> > #!/bin/sh
> > QMAILUID=`id -u qmaild`
> > NOFILESGID=`id -g qmaild`
> > exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 2000000 \
> >   /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -p -x /etc/tcprules.d/smtpd.cdb \
> >   -u $QMAILUID -g $NOFILESGID geceventures.com 25 \
> >   /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 2>&1
> 
> Does "geveventures.com" resolve to an IP address?

Yes.

> Change "geceventures.com" to the IP address of the interfce you wish
> to bind to, or make it 0 if you would like to bind to all available
> interfaces.

Ok, changed it to 0 and I get this in the logfile:

tcpserver: fatal: no IP address for 504

Changed it to 10.1.1.2 (which is it's IP address) and I get:

tcpserver: fatal: unable to figure out port number for 10.1.1.2

I kept the SMTP port field to 25 (as above).

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On Mon, 24 Apr 2000, Dave Sill wrote:

> >tcpserver: fatal: unable to figure out port number for geceventures.com
> >
> >I'm starting qmail-smtpd with:
> >
> >#!/bin/sh
> >QMAILUID=`id -u qmaild`
> >NOFILESGID=`id -g qmaild`
> >exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 2000000 \
> >  /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -p -x /etc/tcprules.d/smtpd.cdb \
> >  -u $QMAILUID -g $NOFILESGID geceventures.com 25 \
> >  /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 2>&1
> 
> Make that "echo exec...", run it, verify that the expanded command is
> correct--especially the UID and GID.

dOh!  That helped...  I had accidentally put $QMAILDUID instead of
$QMAILUID so the -u parameter was empty.  Thank you, David!

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On Mon, 24 Apr 2000, Dave Kitabjian wrote:

> What about removing the "exec" completely? 
> 
> I don't see why exec is necessary, and I don't know if your script
> variables will be passed into the new process created by the exec.

No, the exec part is ok.  I had put a type-o in one of the variables.  It
works now, just tried it and it delivers mail ok.  <phew>  Dang my
eyes!  =)

Thanks people.  Appreciate the help.

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Hi all,
I have installed qmail in one machine using rpms from "bruceg-qmail+patches"
and it is working fine. Now I installed qmail in a new machine using the
same rpms. Both installations are identical. I looked into them carefully. I
couln't find any difference.
     The problem is pop3 is not working properly in the new machine. It is
giving authentication failure error when I am trying to retrive mails
through a pop3 client. But mails are getting delivered into /Maildir/new.
Only retrieval is giving problem. I tried telnetting to port 110 in this
machine. It says authentication failure and connection closed. Can anyone
tell me what the problem is.

Thanks in advance,
Madhav








I currently have a RedHat 6.1 server running qmail 1.03.  It is all working fine internally.  I used LWQ to set it up (Thanks Dave Sills that made my life so much easier).  I have one question though,  Since ./config could not find a DNS entry for my email server (I didn't have one), I used ./config-fast to get qmail up and running.  Now that I have a DNS and MX entry can I still use ./config.  If not, what do I need to do manually to get my server to work correctly on the internet.  I know that I need to have entries the files in /var/qmail/control, but I am not certain what entries, and what files need to be changed.  If I had more time, I would love to figure it out more on my own, but the wonderful world of business dictates that everything be done by yesterday.  Any help would greatly be appreciated.
 
Steve Peace
 
P.S.  This list is great resource and everyone has been extremely helpful to a qmail newbie like myself.
 




   From: "Steve Peace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 09:58:34 -0400

   . . . I know that I need to have entries the files in
   /var/qmail/control, but I am not certain what entries, and what files
   need to be changed.

/var/qmail/control/locals and /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts -- put your
new domain(s) there.

   If I had more time, I would love to figure it out more on my own, but
   the wonderful world of business dictates that everything be done by
   yesterday.  Any help would greatly be appreciated.

   Steve Peace

This is the F-est of FAQs; it has been asked three or four times in the
last few weeks.  People tend to ignore repetitive posts, and so you are
likely to get faster response by checking the archives.

   P.S.  This list is great resource and everyone has been extremely
   helpful to a qmail newbie like myself.

No argument here.

                                        -- Bob Rogers




I was afraid of that, looks like I need to do an emergency queue rebuild
instead, without re-importing the old queue.

*************************************
John McCoy, Jr
Systems Administrator
Central Systems, Mills College
510-430-3321
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*************************************

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Huss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2000 8:28 PM
To: John McCoy, Jr
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: queue-fix 1.4 won't compile on IRIX6.5.3m

Sounds like a bug in the Irix linker.  Try looking to your OS vendor for
patches.  Or you can try installing gnu binutils (and then recompiling gcc
instructing it to use the binutils version of ld).  However, this is a
tricky and dangerous path to take.

-Eric

> Unfortunately I'm still new to all this, I have made sure I have the
latest
> versions of gcc++ and it's libraries. I've been able to compile the
program
> on Solaris 2.6 & 7 boxes without a problem, however the broken queue is on
> the SGI box.
>
> Has any body tried this under IRIX?
> Eric you mentioned libraries from D.J. Bernstein, do I need to get these?
> Can I use qmail-sanity's output and go in and delete files manually,
> instead?
>
> Help I'm desperate, my maillog file grows by 1Meg every couple hours!!!





Hope someone can help a qmail newbie with incoming mail redirection.
I only have control of my .qmail-default file.
All 5 domains are handled by this one .qmail-default file.
It looks like this:

|vdeliver

Hosting company uses Virtual Manager to deliver email

Need the following to take place:
Any incoming email that has the following:
*@domain1.com <redirected to> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*@domain1.net <redirected to> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*@domain1.org <redirected to> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*@domain2.net <redirected to> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*@domain2.org <redirected to> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

*=wildcard
Yes I have set 5 domain1.com POP accounts.
My hosting company will NOT help me with redirecting email to a certain address.
So I've searched the qmail mailing list but have not found exactly what I'm looking 
for.

Maybe this:

|conredirect [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ "$TO" = "${DEFAULT}@domain1.com" ]
|conredirect [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ "$TO" = "${DEFAULT}@domain1.net" ]
|conredirect [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ "$TO" = "${DEFAULT}@domain1.org" ]
|conredirect [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ "$TO" = "${DEFAULT}@domain2.net" ]
|conredirect [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ "$TO" = "${DEFAULT}@domain2.org" ]
|vdeliver

I would still have to have what is presently in my .qmail-default file??

Would this create a Loop??????

Hope someone can help.

-Patrick
 

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>      I'm in the process of migrating about 1500 accounts from Netscape
> SuiteSpot mail server to a qmail/vpopmail/ezmlm-idx/etc environment,
> and am having a bit of trouble with moving from the old to new mailbox
> (maildir actually) format.  Anyone ever dealt with this particular
> scenario
> before?  If so, would love to hear any pointers.
>
> Thanks,
> rvz


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     I'm in the process of migrating about 1500 accounts from Netscape
SuiteSpot mail server to a qmail/vpopmail/ezmlm-idx/etc environment,
and am having a bit of trouble with moving from the old to new mailbox
(maildir actually) format.  Anyone ever dealt with this particular
scenario
before?  If so, would love to hear any pointers.

Thanks,
rvz









"Peter Janett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> It's all working OK, but now I need to be able to access the accounts via
> IMAP.  I have been looking into Courier-IMAP, but if possible, I'd like the
> IMAP server to use the same checkpasswd I'm using for POP3 access.

I solved this problem with a hack.  I wrote a script to run before
checkpassword and clean up what imaplogin sends to it, then another
program to clean up what checkpassword does and set up the environment
how imapd expects it.

I start up tcpserver like this.  The interesting lines are the
preimap.pl, checkpassword, and postimap.pl lines.  I also use
POP-style bulletins, which is the qmail-popbull line; you may not need
it in your environment.

        ( nohup supervise /var/supervise/qmail/imap.143 \
                tcpserver -R -c 100 -v \
                        -u 400 -g 400 \
                        0 143 \
                ${exec_prefix}/sbin/imaplogin \
                /usr/tools/src/imaptest/preimap.pl \
                /var/qmail/bin/checkpassword \
                /usr/tools/src/imaptest/postimap.pl \
                /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popbull /var/qmail/bulletins \
                ${exec_prefix}/bin/imapd Maildir & )

preimap.pl and postimap.pl are as follows:

------preimap.pl---------
#!/usr/local/bin/perl

use POSIX;

open(AUTHIN,"<&=3");
@lines=<AUTHIN>;
close(AUTHIN);

($fdR,$fdW) = POSIX::pipe()
  or die "Couldn't create pipe: $!\n";

defined($pid=fork())
  or die "Couldn't fork: $!\n";

if (!$pid)
{
  # Child
  POSIX::dup2(3,$fdR);
  POSIX::close($fdW);
  exec(@ARGV);
  die "Couldn't exec: $!\n";
}

open(AUTHOUT,">&=$fdW")
  or die "Couldn't open fd #$fdW as AUTHOUT: $!\n";

# Ignore first two
shift(@lines); shift(@lines);
grep(s/\n/\0/,@lines);
print AUTHOUT @lines, "Y123456\0";
close(AUTHOUT);

#exit(0);
-----


-----postimap.pl-----
#!/usr/local/bin/perl

delete $ENV{AUTHUSER};
$ENV{AUTHADDR}="test\@test";
$ENV{AUTHFULLNAME}="";
delete $ENV{AUTHEXPIRE};
$ENV{AUTHENTICATED}="yes";

exec(@ARGV)
  or print "exec failed!: $!\n";
-----




At 4/24/2000 09:22 PM -0400, Russell Nelson wrote or quoted:

>I often wonder what the Internet would be like without the various people 
>who have made the Internet what it is: Dan Bernstein, Linus Torvalds, Jon 
>Postel.

I hate to point this out, especially here, but Eric Allman is also one of 
the people who made the Internet what it is. Sendmail runs in an awful lot 
of places. The Morris Worm of '88 wouldn't have been possible without 
Allman's software. Like it or not, I believe he does belong on that list.

(As do Thompson, Kernighan, Ritchie, Cerf and Wall.)

>Oops, check that.  We now know what the Internet is like without Jon.

No kidding. I had high hopes for ICANN, but they've been pretty well 
dashed. I definitely preferred IANA.

-----------------------------------------------------------------
                              Kai MacTane
                          System Administrator
                       Online Partners.com, Inc.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
 From the Jargon File: (v4.0.0, 25 Jul 1996)

finger trouble /n./

Mistyping, typos, or generalized keyboard incompetence (this is
surprisingly common among hackers, given the amount of time they
spend at keyboards). "I keep putting colons at the end of statements
instead of semicolons", "Finger trouble again, eh?".







After having sent the "unsubscribe" request, I am still receiving messages from
the mailing list.  I followed the instructions bellow to have my name removed
from the mailing list.  What else do I need to do to stop receiving these
messages?

Thanks,
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   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
   Stop receiving messages.






Title: RE: Internet mail
Help me please!!!!1
-----Original Message-----
From: R.Ilker Gokhan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2000 3:29 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Internet mail

Hi all,
Ok. I am changing my question. I assume I have two Qmail server.

user name                             Qmail hostname              Qmail hostname
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>deneme.test.com---------> deneme2.test.com--------internet

I want to set if deneme.test.com  receive a request e-mail to internet (for example [EMAIL PROTECTED]) it forwards to deneme2.test.com.

How can I set this configuration?
Thanks in advance..

Ilker G.

    -----Original Message-----
    From:   R.Ilker Gokhan
    Sent:   Thursday, April 20, 2000 4:20 PM
    To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    Subject:        Internet mail

    Hi to all,
    I have a mail system that is MS Exchange server 5.5 at the local sites. I 'm using INC (Internet mail connector) on Exchange server for internet mail. . I'm using NT4.0 on local and remote sites. I 've wanted to use Qmail on the remote sides so I 've installed qmail1.03 (without any patch) to use on remote sites to posting and getting mail with the local sites via SMTP and POP3 protocol. Any user on the remote site can posting mail to any user on the local sites or getting. But remote site's user can't send any mail to the internet. In the same way they can't get any mail. I have MX entry for MS Exchange on DNS. I've scan FAQ but I couldn't find any information about this.

    Shortly, I mean that:
    site users-------------------->qmail server-------------------------->MS Exchange server----------------------->Internet

    How can I set this smtproutes to internet mail?
    Thanks for helps
    Ilker G.





"R.Ilker Gokhan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Help me please!!!!1

I'll try.

>Ok. I am changing my question. I assume I have two Qmail server. 
>
>user name                             Qmail hostname              Qmail
>hostname 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>deneme.test.com--------->
>deneme2.test.com--------> internet 
>
>I want to set if deneme.test.com  receive a request e-mail to internet (for
>example [EMAIL PROTECTED]) it forwards to deneme2.test.com.
>
>How can I set this configuration? 

You have two qmail hosts: deneme.test.com and deneme2.test.com. Users
submit mail to deneme.test.com. If the mail is not for a local
recipient, you want it forwarded to deneme2.test.com?

If that's right, set up deneme.test.com with the usual control files,
then create control/smtproutes with the following:

  :deneme2.test.com

That says "deliver all remote mail to deneme2.test.com".

-Dave




Title: RE: Internet mail

Thank you very much for reply... i will try immediately..

see you....

Ilker G.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Sill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 8:14 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Internet mail


"R.Ilker Gokhan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Help me please!!!!1

I'll try.

>Ok. I am changing my question. I assume I have two Qmail server.
>
>user name                             Qmail hostname              Qmail
>hostname
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>deneme.test.com--------->
>deneme2.test.com--------> internet
>
>I want to set if deneme.test.com  receive a request e-mail to internet (for
>example [EMAIL PROTECTED]) it forwards to deneme2.test.com.
>
>How can I set this configuration?

You have two qmail hosts: deneme.test.com and deneme2.test.com. Users
submit mail to deneme.test.com. If the mail is not for a local
recipient, you want it forwarded to deneme2.test.com?

If that's right, set up deneme.test.com with the usual control files,
then create control/smtproutes with the following:

  :deneme2.test.com

That says "deliver all remote mail to deneme2.test.com".

-Dave





"suresh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>./compile qmail-local.c
>
>/usr/ucb/cc: language optional software package not installed
>
>*** Error code 1
>
>make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `qmail-local.o'
>
>Is the language software necassary(i got no such cd) or can i loda a
>different compiler and try

The message you're getting is telling you that you haven't installed
Sun's C compiler, which is an extra-cost, unbundled product. You can
either buy it and install it, or install a free compiler such as
GCC. If you install GCC, you'll need to modify conf-cc and conf-ld to
point to "gcc" instead of "cc".

-Dave




Kai MacTane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>As things stand with qmail right now, a user sending mail through qmail 
>gets one of three things:
>
>1) A successful delivery.
>2) A bounce message (liable to happen within a few minutes under most
>    circumstances).
>3) An eventual failure (which takes queuelifetime).

There are, of course, other failure modes that will not result in a
bounce. The SMTP protocol just wasn't designed to be perfectly
reliable. We can whine about that, dream up various mechanisms to
improve reliability, and write code to implement them, but in the end
the situation won't really change. A reliable SMTP would no longer be
SMTP. We'd need new MTA's and MUA's supporting the new protocol. It'd
take years to define the protocol and develop the first
implementations. It'd take more years for every system on the Internet 
to upgrade to the new protocol. A quick cost/benefit analysis shows
that it ain't gonna happen.

>In the case of a failure to deliver, the user will not get *any* warning 
>about it until queuelifetime has passed. I think that the option to have 
>qmail (or a plug-in or add-on program) deliver a message back to the user 
>stating that the message hasn't gone through yet, after an 
>admin-configurable length of time (presumably somewhere from 4-24 hours), 
>would be a useful thing.

There is, as has already been pointed out, a patch that does
this. Unfortunately, that patch has been orphaned.

I still think that if nondelivery warnings are done at all, they
should be generated at the time of the first failed attempt. E.g.,:

  Hi. This is your friendly neighborhood mailer. I just tried to
  deliver your message to:

     [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  But I was unable to reach example.com. I'll keep trying to delivery
  the message occasionally for (queuelifetime/(3600*24)) days. If you
  don't hear from me again before then, your message was delivered.

>This isn't necessarily a qmail feature request, since I can see a strong 
>case to be made for having this be an add-on. But it is a dissenting view 
>that I thought should be aired, because I'd like to counterbalance the view 
>I see here of "Messages like that are horrible; why would anyone want them?"

I think they're annoying but I would never question anyone's right to
have the feature.

-Dave




On Apr 25 2000, Russ Allbery wrote:
> I'd also significantly reduce the queue lifetime; honestly, if the
> message can't be delivered in two or three days, most e-mail users
> these days seem to have already concluded it will never get there
> and get really confused when it comes through.

        If you're considering less than seven days for queuelifetime,
        do set it to at least four days -- it's frequently the case
        where a message was not delivered because some computer failed
        on a Friday afternoon and it can only be replaced/fixed on
        Monday morning and e-mails can't be delivered in the mean
        time... :-(

        So, three days may be a little short. Or should this mean that
        secondary MXs, once fought against begin to become a necessary
        condition?


        []s, Roger...

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=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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     Nectar homepage: http://www.linux.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/opeth/
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=




Rogerio Brito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>       So, three days may be a little short. Or should this mean that
>       secondary MXs, once fought against begin to become a necessary
>       condition?

I use secondary MXes for all of my e-mail precisely because I want control
over the queuing if a system goes down.

-- 
Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED])             <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>




On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, Rogerio Brito wrote:
> 
>       If you're considering less than seven days for queuelifetime,
>       do set it to at least four days -- it's frequently the case
>       where a message was not delivered because some computer failed
>       on a Friday afternoon and it can only be replaced/fixed on
>       Monday morning and e-mails can't be delivered in the mean
>       time... :-(
> 
>       So, three days may be a little short. Or should this mean that
>       secondary MXs, once fought against begin to become a necessary
>       condition?

Good point. Here in Oz we've just had a 5 day weekend, thanks to
Easter falling late and ANZAC day coming straight after Easter. Choose
a value appropriate to your environment.

Regards
Peter
----------
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Phone: +61 2 9206 3410                      Fax: +61 2 9281 1301

"If you kill all your unhappy customers, you'll only have happy ones left"





Aled Treharne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>We had a power failure here the other day, and since then I'm getting
>messages like this one in the log file:
>
>Apr 24 09:57:16 marilyn qmail: 956588236.339152 warning: trouble opening
>remote/15/551670; will try again later
>Apr 24 09:57:20 marilyn qmail: 956588240.349218 warning: trouble opening
>info/22/554598; will try again later
>Apr 24 09:57:42 marilyn qmail: 956588262.359546 warning: trouble opening
>remote/4/551705; will try again later
>
>What can I do to fix this? The files in question don't exist.

Run qmail-sanity or queue-fix, both available from www.qmail.org.

-Dave




Zhiliang Hu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>However when I tested my system script starting the qmail at boot:
>
>#!/sbin/sh
>  if [ -f /var/qmail/rc ]; then
>        /var/qmail/rc &
>        echo "Starting qmail server"
>        echo "Please wait .........." && /sbin/sleep 5
>  else
>        echo "qmail server could not be started."
>  fi
>
>qmail was not started at boot, although the script works when
>tried at the command line.  (the script was in /.../rc3.d)
>
>Any hint?

Are you sure qmail wasn't started? Maybe it started, but because you
didn't "nohup" it, it was killed when the startup shell exited.

Are you sure the startup script was run? Stick a:

  env >/tmp/qmail-startup

at the top of the file and reboot. Then look for /tmp/qmail-startup.

>BTW, I am new so I am not on your list yet.  Please reply to me
>directly -- Thanks!!

Done.

-Dave




"Madhav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>1. The following is the assign file i have. here the first field is the mail
>address, 2nd user name(linux
>     user).
>     my problem is i am able to recieve mails sent to both the linux user
>and the mailaddress (in my
>    case [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]). whereas i want to
>recieve mails
>    addressed to madhav only (ie those addressed to mail addresses
>    only).

The qmail-users mechanism allows to add aliases, but it doesn't
prevent delivery to other deliverable addresses. If you want to make
mail to a valid user bounce, set up an assign entry to redirect it to
a ~alias/.qmail-nosuchuser containing:

  |bouncesaying "no such user"

>2. my mail clients will be accessing mails only through pop and smtp for
>receiving and sending mails.     for every mail user is it mandatory to
>create a linux user?

No, there are various "virtual user" solutions available from
www.qmail.org.

-Dave




    Dear netters,

I'm newbie in Qmail world. I've installed Qmail 1.03 & fastforward
0.51 under SGI O2/IRIX 6.3.
But I didn't find in docs an answers to few questions about
local mail delivery.

1) Is it possible (and how) to setup Qmail and fastforward
   with /bin/mail as a local delivery agent
   *and* deliver all the mail messages to particular user 
   - blah , for example, - to pipe like 
   |usr/people/blah/program > /usr/people/blah/blahfile ?

2) Is it possible (and how) to setup qmail-local 
   (as local delivery agent) to deliver
   a) mail for any user to /var/mail/user
   b) but excluding user blah - for which mail should be 
      transferred to pipe

    |/usr/people/blah/program > /usr/people/blah/blahfile ?

Thanks for help  !

Mikhail Kuzminsky
Zelinsky Institute of Organic Chemistry
Moscow




I have courier-imap compiled correctly on Solaris7 but when I try to login I
 get,
"Connection closed by foreign host.".  In the syslog I only get,
" imaplogin: Connection, ip=[127.0.0.1]"  

When I give the correct username and password I get the "connection closed"
error. When I enter a wrong username andpassword I do get the expected
 "Login incorrect" error....which means imap is authenticating.

Any hints would be great. 
Please note that I have not made any configuration changes to imap following
 compilation.
Perhaps imap requires some configuration in some files???

Thanks Kristina

*****************Actual output: (Note: "ldaptest" is hostname)

root@ldaptest(29)%telnet ldaptest imap
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
* OK Courier-IMAP ready. Copyright 1998-2000 Double Precision, Inc.  See COP
YING
 for distribution information.
1 login kristina password
Connection closed by foreign host.

****************Actual output in syslog:
Apr 25 15:30:57 ldaptest imaplogin: Connection, ip=[127.0.0.1]






Kristina wrote:
> 
> I have courier-imap compiled correctly on Solaris7 but when I try to login I
>  get,
> "Connection closed by foreign host.".  In the syslog I only get,
> " imaplogin: Connection, ip=[127.0.0.1]"
> 
> When I give the correct username and password I get the "connection closed"
> error. When I enter a wrong username andpassword I do get the expected
>  "Login incorrect" error....which means imap is authenticating.
> 
> Any hints would be great.
> Please note that I have not made any configuration changes to imap following
>  compilation.
> Perhaps imap requires some configuration in some files???

Are you using the auth_imap authentication module from qmail-ldap?

-- 
Andre




No I am not using the auth_imap authentication module yet because
I can't even get courier-imap to work using default authentication.  
Although, my ultimate goal is to use the auth_imap module I can't  
get courier-imap working with /etc/passwd. 

Any help appreciated as to why I am getting  "connection closed" as
soon enter the correct username an password!

Has anyone got courier-imap running correctly on Solaris 7?
Do I need to configure anything after compilation?

Thanks,
Kristina


At 03:03 00/04/26 +0200, you wrote:
> Kristina wrote:
> > 
> > I have courier-imap compiled correctly on Solaris7 but when I try to login
I
> >  get,
> > "Connection closed by foreign host.".  In the syslog I only get,
> > " imaplogin: Connection, ip=[127.0.0.1]"
> > 
> > When I give the correct username and password I get the "connection clos
ed"
> > error. When I enter a wrong username andpassword I do get the expected
> >  "Login incorrect" error....which means imap is authenticating.
> > 
> > Any hints would be great.
> > Please note that I have not made any configuration changes to imap
following
> >  compilation.
> > Perhaps imap requires some configuration in some files???
> 
> Are you using the auth_imap authentication module from qmail-ldap?
> 
> -- 
> Andre
>   





On Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 09:31:09AM +0900, Kristina wrote:
> I have courier-imap compiled correctly on Solaris7 but when I try to login I
>  get,
> "Connection closed by foreign host.".  In the syslog I only get,
> " imaplogin: Connection, ip=[127.0.0.1]"  
> 
> When I give the correct username and password I get the "connection closed"
> error. When I enter a wrong username andpassword I do get the expected
>  "Login incorrect" error....which means imap is authenticating.
> 
> Any hints would be great. 
> Please note that I have not made any configuration changes to imap following
>  compilation.
> Perhaps imap requires some configuration in some files???
> 
Yes it does, you need to edit one or two entries in imapd.config, in
particular you need to set ADDRESS to your real IP address.

-- 
Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED]           Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/





Thankyou. I have changed the IP Address in imapd.config but
I still get the same "connection closed" error when I login to imap.

Besides IP Address, what else needs to be changed in imapd.config to
get it up and running?


Any hints would be great,

Kristina

At 09:09 00/04/26 +0100, you wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 09:31:09AM +0900, Kristina wrote:
> > I have courier-imap compiled correctly on Solaris7 but when I try to login
I
> >  get,
> > "Connection closed by foreign host.".  In the syslog I only get,
> > " imaplogin: Connection, ip=[127.0.0.1]"  
> > 
> > When I give the correct username and password I get the "connection clos
ed"
> > error. When I enter a wrong username andpassword I do get the expected
> >  "Login incorrect" error....which means imap is authenticating.
> > 
> > Any hints would be great. 
> > Please note that I have not made any configuration changes to imap
following
> >  compilation.
> > Perhaps imap requires some configuration in some files???
> > 
> Yes it does, you need to edit one or two entries in imapd.config, in
> particular you need to set ADDRESS to your real IP address.

> 
> -- 
> Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>   Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED]                 Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
>   





Geoff,
        Is it feasable for you to run Apache as your qmail user/group? Or do you
have other stuff on that server too?

Regards,
Charles Werbick
The Wirehouse

-----Original Message-----
From: Geoff Everist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 02:07
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How do I enable user nobody to use qmail-inject?


Charles Werbick wrote:
>
> Geoff,
>         You permissions do indeed seem correct. Are there any log
messages?
>
> Regards,
> Charles Werbick
> The Wirehouse

Hrm....curiouser and curiouser....

It all appears to be tied up with environment settings. There is
typically only one Qmail environment setting on my system, that is
QMAILMFTFILE, which is set to ~username/.lists. When I was testing
previously, I was using su username, which preserves the current
environment variables. Clearly the new user will not have permissions to
access the file set in QMAILMFTFILE, and therefore is bombing out around
here somewhere:

  x = env_get("QMAILMFTFILE");
  if (!x) return;

  r = control_readfile(&mft,x,0);
  if (r == -1) die_read(); /*XXX*/
  if (!r) return;

If I use su - nobody, I am no longer getting the error doing it manually
and the message is being send according to the logs (i.e. everything
looks normal).

Which takes me back to my original problem. I having problems sending
mail with IMP. I _thought_ it may have been the user nobody problem, but
clearly it is not.

Basically it appears to send mail, but all I get is the dreaded
qmail-inject: fatal: read error message in my apache error log, and the
mail disappears into the void. Any ideas will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for your help so far,

Cheers
Geoff Everist





Anyone manage Lotus Notes on their Enterprise?

I'm wondering if it's possible to use the groupware features
(shared calendar, etc) of Notes while maintaining qmail as
the smtp and pop server...

John





I'm trying to run down a problem with MS software, (particularly
Outlook,) where large email attachments are being chopped into many
small messages.

I was told that an MTA, like qmail, can ask the MUA to do such things.

Is this true?

        Thanks,

        John

-- 

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631 Lamont Ct.      Tel. 408.370.2688  http://www.johncon.com/ntropix/
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On 26 Apr 2000, John Conover wrote:

> 
> I'm trying to run down a problem with MS software, (particularly
> Outlook,) where large email attachments are being chopped into many
> small messages.
> 
> I was told that an MTA, like qmail, can ask the MUA to do such things.
> 
> Is this true?

No. qmail doesn't _ask_ the sending system ANYTHING. qmail will _tell_
the sending system certain things, if configured to do so. For example,
if qmail-smtpd has been configured to reject messages above a certain
size (as defined by the numeric value in /var/qmail/control/databytes,
or the DATABYTES environment variable) it will tell the remote system
that the message is too big. If the remote system is smart enough to
realise why it can't send the message, then it can choose to send it in
smaller chunks. The remote system will have to have intelligence
sufficient to understand many different MTA error messages.

Such intelligence is beyond the scope of qmail (and probably outlook
as well).

Regards
Peter
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Peter Samuel                                [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Technical Consultant                        or at present:
eServ. Pty Ltd                              [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: +61 2 9206 3410                      Fax: +61 2 9281 1301

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