qmail Digest 24 Apr 2000 10:00:01 -0000 Issue 981

Topics (messages 40488 through 40511):

Leave the list.
        40488 by: Carles Latorre

What will qmail do to unbounced message
        40489 by: Irwan Hadi
        40490 by: Chris Johnson

temporary failure warning message
        40491 by: J.M. Roth \(iip\)

Pine
        40492 by: Jonathan Fortin
        40493 by: Peter van Dijk

Failure to add groups etc via VIPW OpenBSD V2.6
        40494 by: Martin Randall
        40508 by: Yuliy Minchev

Re: Mailbox/Maildir pop ?
        40495 by: kevin.anthem.oceania.net

mua for unix to read qmail's maildir
        40496 by: Jonathan Fortin
        40497 by: John Gonzalez/netMDC admin
        40498 by: Manfred Bartz

qmail-smtpd logging
        40499 by: Russell Nelson
        40511 by: Andre Oppermann

Re: DO NOT TRY INSTALLING QMAIL ON MANDRAKE
        40500 by: Vincent Danen

Qmail behind firewall question
        40501 by: Vincent Danen
        40505 by: Jason Brooke
        40506 by: Peter Samuel

some doubts in qmail
        40502 by: Madhav

How to use new-inject ?
        40503 by: Ismal Hisham Darus

man pages for supervise and tcpserver
        40504 by: Madhav

Missing Mail From on Mail
        40507 by: Adam Furman

Combining Sendmail & Qmail
        40509 by: sharad gupta

Scan4virus And Message Logging ?
        40510 by: hsilver

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Hi all,
 
From time to time I used to administrate a Linux system whith qmail, so I subscribed to this list. I found it very useful, but now my needs have changed, so I guess how to leave the list. Could anyone help me?
 
Thanks in advantage,
 
Carles Latorre.




What will qmail do if I do this

helo testing
mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ok
rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ok
data
.

Of course it can't sent to the rcpt address but it also can't bounce the
message back to the sender, then what will qmail do ?
can it delete the message automatically then ?
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AFLHI 058009990407128029/089802---(102598//991024)




On Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 11:07:01AM -0700, Irwan Hadi wrote:
> What will qmail do if I do this
> 
> helo testing
> mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ok
> rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ok
> data
> .
> 
> Of course it can't sent to the rcpt address but it also can't bounce the
> message back to the sender, then what will qmail do ?
> can it delete the message automatically then ?

The "double bounce" will go to postmaster, or whatever address you have in
control/doublebounceto. Look for doublebounceto in the qmail-send man page.

Chris




Hello there,

is it possible to configure qmail to send out a "temporary failure" message
or something if mail can't be delivered rightaway?
One of our users had an important mail in the queue which was returned to
him only 7 days later ('cause of a DNS failure), way too late... Some
failure messages inbetween would be quite helpful.

Regards!

J.M. Roth
________________________________________________________





 
How do i get pine to read my qmail maildir?




On Mon, Apr 24, 2000 at 12:02:30PM -0400, Jonathan Fortin wrote:
> 
> How do i get pine to read my qmail maildir?

There are some links to Maildir-patches for Pine/c-client on www.qmail.org

Greetz, Peter.
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|  
| 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot;
|  C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.'
|                             Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++




Hello. This may be just a OpenBSD problem...I'm not sure.

When I add this and try and write, it says it is corrupted, but for the life of me, I 
can't see why.

Anyone else with OpenBSD ?

Regards...Martin
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All of the chaos makes perfect sense.






On Sun, 23 Apr 2000, Martin Randall wrote:

> Hello. This may be just a OpenBSD problem...I'm not sure.
> When I add this and try and write, it says it is corrupted, but for the life of me, 
>I can't see why.
> Anyone else with OpenBSD ?
> Regards...Martin

in the current ports tree of OpenBSD, there is already port of
qmail and a couple of related with it packages

yuliy

--
  Yuliy Minchev, 
  Systems Administrator
  NOAC Bulgaria





Bolivar Diaz Galarza wrote:

> I know almost nothing about linux and less about qmail. I have installed it
> and it works with one mailbox. Can any of you please tell me how to add
> users to my qmail linux and qmail at the same time?

Firstly I would change to Maildir format,
Then in your /etc/skel file I would do
setuser root /var/qmail/bin/maildirmake /etc/skel/

There after all users added to the system will have a Maildir

Kevin





Where can I get an Mua to read ~/Maildir, the qmail pine
patch is really outdated and it doesnt work,
 
thank you




mutt..

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On Mon, 24 Apr 2000, Jonathan Fortin wrote:

>Where can I get an Mua to read ~/Maildir, the qmail pine
>patch is really outdated and it doesnt work,
>
>thank you
>

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"Jonathan Fortin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Where can I get an Mua to read ~/Maildir, the qmail pine

``gnus'', the news and mail reader in xemacs or gnu-emacs handles
maildirs as one of its retrieval methods.

                <http://www.gnus.org/>

-- 
Manfred Bartz





It would sometimes be helpful if qmail-smtpd did some logging to
stderr.  As an example, if an ISP has added some IP addresses to its
modem pool, and the sysadmin failed to add that network to
/etc/smtp.txt, and he has gone off with a church group to play the
bass guitar for two weeks (just as an example), it can be quite
difficult to debug.  You have to get a customer to record the IP
address they've been assigned when they get the "... not listed in my
rcpthosts" message.  If they only have one phone line, and they've
called to complain that they can't send email, well, they've already
hung up the phone.  And their stupid Windoze software hasn't logged
anything like the IP address, it just pops up a dialog box explaining
why it can't relay the email out.  Yeah, you could try to educate your 
customers on diagnosing your own problem, but why bother?  They don't
want to be educated (that's what they pay you to do), they just want
their probelm fixed.

I modified qmail-smtpd to log that error message to stderr.  That told
me the new network, and I enabled many customers to have a happy Easter.

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Russell Nelson wrote:
> 
> It would sometimes be helpful if qmail-smtpd did some logging to
> stderr.  As an example, if an ISP has added some IP addresses to its
> modem pool, and the sysadmin failed to add that network to
> /etc/smtp.txt, and he has gone off with a church group to play the
> bass guitar for two weeks (just as an example), it can be quite
> difficult to debug.  You have to get a customer to record the IP
> address they've been assigned when they get the "... not listed in my
> rcpthosts" message.  If they only have one phone line, and they've
> called to complain that they can't send email, well, they've already
> hung up the phone.  And their stupid Windoze software hasn't logged
> anything like the IP address, it just pops up a dialog box explaining
> why it can't relay the email out.  Yeah, you could try to educate your
> customers on diagnosing your own problem, but why bother?  They don't
> want to be educated (that's what they pay you to do), they just want
> their probelm fixed.
> 
> I modified qmail-smtpd to log that error message to stderr.  That told
> me the new network, and I enabled many customers to have a happy Easter.

Sounds like you are running qmail-ldap... ;-)

-- 
Andre




On Fri, 21 Apr 2000, MiGhi wrote:

> >> I tried and tried to install QMAIL 1.03 on Mandrake7.0 with NO SUCCESS!
> >> Something seems to work wrong on Mandrake, and qmail gives CNAME LOOKUP
> >> FAILURE.
> > 
> > I'm using Qmail under Mandrake right now, and have installed it a few
> > times, both via RPM and by compiling it right from the tarballs.
> 
> I am very interested of your mail.
> 
> In fact, I installed RedHat + qmail on a service machine.
> I love Mandrake (I have been using mandrake since Venice release), and I'd
> prefer to continue using it... but I love Qmail too ;)

I hear ya... I started with RedHat and much prefer Mandrake... =)

> > Does qmail start for you?  Can it resolve
> > the MX for your domain?
> 
> sure.
> Qmail works 100% but can't deliver mail to remote hosts: CNAME LOOKUP UP
> FAILURE.
> qmail receive mails at 100% and deliver them to local users (also at virtual
> domains).
> It can't deliver to remote hosts

Ok.  Hmmmm... I've never had this problem, mind you I usually use my ISP's
SMTP server to send mail rather than qmail, but I have tried it and it has
worked.

> > The problem I had was in the
> > /etc/rc.d/init.d/qmail-pop3d.init file with the programs called in the
> > HOST variable (specifically dnsfq).
> > I changed those calls to specify the
> > domain name on my system and then it started working.  Why it didn't work
> > before, I don't know, but after I made that change it did work.
> > If you install from tarballs,
> 
> this is my installation

Ok, that's what I did this last time.

> > you use the qmail script (not any
> > qmail-*.init files which come from the tcpserver-initscripts package, I
> > believe), and I don't even think dnsfq is installed (at any rate, it's not
> > on my system), and things work fine.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> I follow Life with qmail for the installation.
> I repeat: Qmail works 100% but can't deliver mails to remote hosts.
> I couldn't explain this fact.

I don't know Miguel...  I'm not an expert with qmail (far from it!) and
I'm not not sure what your problem could be.  All I know is it has to be
*something* because if you followed Life with Qmail (which I did this last
time), and did it via tarball (which I also did), then there's something
else wrong.  I know it's not Mandrake because my system works, but as to
what it could be, I wouldn't even know where to begin looking.

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Hello.  I just setup a server for my father and I installed qmail because
I use it here and it works great.  His situation is a little different
from my own, however.  POP3 works great starting from inetd, but qmail
gives errors.  The error I get is:

tcpserver: fatal: unable to figure out port number for geceventures.com

I'm starting qmail-smtpd with:

#!/bin/sh
QMAILUID=`id -u qmaild`
NOFILESGID=`id -g qmaild`
exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 2000000 \
  /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -p -x /etc/tcprules.d/smtpd.cdb \
  -u $QMAILUID -g $NOFILESGID geceventures.com 25 \
  /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 2>&1

I installed it via tarball on Mandrake 7.  Again, we're behind a firewall,
so I think that has something to do with it (otherwise it's nearly
identical to my own working setup).

The IP address that the server is on is 10.1.1.2, and the IP address for
the firewall is 10.1.1.1 locally and something else for the outside
internet (I forget off-hand).  I use ipmasqadm to forward ports 25 and 110
to 10.1.1.2.

Orginially the "25" was "smtp", but I hard-coded everything hoping it
might work that way, but no dice.

Any idea why this isn't working and possibly some tips on how to get it to
work?  I'm not sure how qmail operates in this sort of situation knowing
it's stringent environment checking on DNS, MX records, and so
forth.  We'd really like to get this up and running, but my father is very
new to Linux so I'm administering it for him until he learns enough to do
it himself.  Any help would be appreciated.

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In my experience, that error is caused when the value you enter for the port
isn't listed in /etc/services

jason




> Hello.  I just setup a server for my father and I installed qmail because
> I use it here and it works great.  His situation is a little different
> from my own, however.  POP3 works great starting from inetd, but qmail
> gives errors.  The error I get is:
>
> tcpserver: fatal: unable to figure out port number for geceventures.com
>
> I'm starting qmail-smtpd with:
>
> #!/bin/sh
> QMAILUID=`id -u qmaild`
> NOFILESGID=`id -g qmaild`
> exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 2000000 \
>   /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -p -x /etc/tcprules.d/smtpd.cdb \
>   -u $QMAILUID -g $NOFILESGID geceventures.com 25 \
>   /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 2>&1
>
> I installed it via tarball on Mandrake 7.  Again, we're behind a firewall,
> so I think that has something to do with it (otherwise it's nearly
> identical to my own working setup).
>
> The IP address that the server is on is 10.1.1.2, and the IP address for
> the firewall is 10.1.1.1 locally and something else for the outside
> internet (I forget off-hand).  I use ipmasqadm to forward ports 25 and 110
> to 10.1.1.2.
>
> Orginially the "25" was "smtp", but I hard-coded everything hoping it
> might work that way, but no dice.
>
> Any idea why this isn't working and possibly some tips on how to get it to
> work?  I'm not sure how qmail operates in this sort of situation knowing
> it's stringent environment checking on DNS, MX records, and so
> forth.  We'd really like to get this up and running, but my father is very
> new to Linux so I'm administering it for him until he learns enough to do
> it himself.  Any help would be appreciated.
>
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On Sun, 23 Apr 2000, Vincent Danen wrote:

> Hello.  I just setup a server for my father and I installed qmail because
> I use it here and it works great.  His situation is a little different
> from my own, however.  POP3 works great starting from inetd, but qmail
> gives errors.  The error I get is:
> 
> tcpserver: fatal: unable to figure out port number for geceventures.com
> 
> I'm starting qmail-smtpd with:
> 
> #!/bin/sh
> QMAILUID=`id -u qmaild`
> NOFILESGID=`id -g qmaild`
> exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 2000000 \
>   /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -p -x /etc/tcprules.d/smtpd.cdb \
>   -u $QMAILUID -g $NOFILESGID geceventures.com 25 \
>   /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 2>&1

Does "geveventures.com" resolve to an IP address?

Change "geceventures.com" to the IP address of the interfce you wish
to bind to, or make it 0 if you would like to bind to all available
interfaces.

The tcpserver doco says:

    tcpserver opts host port prog
    ...
    The server's address is given by host and port. port may be a name
    from /etc/services or a number; if it is 0, tcpserver will choose a
    free TCP port. host may be 0, allowing connections to any local IP
    address; or a dotted-decimal IP address, allowing connections only
    to that address; or a host name, allowing connections to the first
    IP address for that host. Host names are fed through qualification
    using dns_ip4_qualify.

    ...

Regards
Peter
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hi,
i have a couple of questions:
1. The following is the assign file i have. here the first field is the mail
address, 2nd user name(linux
     user).
     my problem is i am able to recieve mails sent to both the linux user
and the mailaddress (in my
    case [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]). whereas i want to
recieve mails
    addressed to madhav only (ie those addressed to mail addresses only).

    [root@server1 users]# cat /var/qmail/users/assign
    =madhav:msp:510:503:/home/msp:::
    =ramkumar:ram:509:503:/home/ram:::
    =mail-admin:admin:511:503:/home/admin:::
    =sugesstions:cod1:512:504:/coda/qmail/home/cod1:::
    [root@server1 users]#

2. my mail clients will be accessing mails only through pop and smtp for
receiving and sending mails.     for every mail user is it mandatory to
create a linux user? i actually have about 350 users using         mails in
my domain(proposed) that would mean i have to create 350 linux users and in
their             home directories i have to create a Maildir. is there any
way by which i can overcome this?

Thanks in advance






when i install mess822 package, does it automatically call the 
program from qmail-inject or do i have to add something in order to 
activate the thing ?

thanks






Ismal Hisham Mohd Darus
Asst. Manager, System Support
John Hancock Life Insurance (Malaysia) Berhad








hi,
 could anyone let me know where i could get the man pages for tcpserver and supervise(svc)
thanks




We have a lot of our customers who don't have mail from lines in their
scripts and their mail keeps bouncing with this message

Remote host said: 501 bogus mail from


I want to be able to accept this mail thru qmail only from my internal IP's.
I'm already running tcpserver and already allow those IP's to relay thru my
server.  Any help will be great.

Thanks
Adam





I Am already using sendmail on my linux box....
I want to now use Qmail on another linux box and give
my sendmail users the webmail access using sqwebmail
or some other webmail access...
Is there some feasibility for doing so...
Thanks in advance.
Sharad


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I was wondering if it there is a way of running both message 
logging as well as scanning for viruses.

I have a client that runs message logging on all outgoing
and incoming email. When I renamed qmail-queue to
a different name and renamed the scan4virus perl script
to qmail-queue and called the original qmail-queue from
it, I ran into warnings on incoming email, I suspect 
because I was using the message logging as well as the
virus scanning.

I was wondering if anyone else is running both message
logging as well as scan4virus at the same time. If so, I'd
appreciate knowing how this is done.

When I tried just running the scan4virus script with HBEV
and McAfee, set up as described above, I got the following
Warning message. 

Remote host said: Warning: Cannot freopen /dev/tty to stdin250 ok 955941558 qp
367

The system has been running Qmail-1.03 for quite some time now with
message logging flawlessly and the above message (and others like it) 
occured only after attempting to use scan4virus. As soon as I returned
to using the original qmail-queue without scan4virus, the warning messages
on incoming email stopped.

I was wondering if there is a way of eliminating the warning message
and have both message logging as well as virus scanning.

Thanks in advance,

Harley Silver


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