qmail Digest 15 Apr 2000 10:00:00 -0000 Issue 972

Topics (messages 40061 through 40131):

SPAMCONTROL patch
        40061 by: Bernat Ginard
        40086 by: Bernat Ginard
        40131 by: Erwin Hoffmann

Re: qmail and auto
        40062 by: Kaare Rasmussen
        40063 by: System Administrator

Re: Two email addresses and the rest to a virtual domain
        40064 by: Matthew Harrell
        40065 by: Matthew Harrell
        40067 by: Russell Nelson
        40068 by: Russell Nelson
        40070 by: Matthew Harrell

Re: Qmail's sendmail does not obey $MAILUSER, $MAILHOST etc.
        40066 by: mrogers.cs.ucl.ac.uk

qmail, ucsi-tcp & inetd
        40069 by: "Pr�spero, Esteban"
        40072 by: Russell Nelson
        40073 by: Dave Sill
        40074 by: "Pr�spero, Esteban"
        40075 by: Vince Vielhaber
        40077 by: Greg Owen
        40078 by: "Pr�spero, Esteban"
        40081 by: Russell Nelson
        40082 by: "Pr�spero, Esteban"
        40083 by: Charles Cazabon
        40084 by: Soffen, Matthew
        40085 by: Vince Vielhaber
        40091 by: Kai MacTane
        40106 by: Keith Warno
        40124 by: Peter van Dijk
        40125 by: Peter van Dijk

Re: newbie help
        40071 by: Steve Peace

Disabling access
        40076 by: Eduardo Moor

CNAME LOOKUP FAILURE...
        40079 by: MiGhi

Re: delivery speed very slow
        40080 by: Charles Cazabon

Messages stuck in queue
        40087 by: John McCoy, Jr
        40088 by: Steve Wolfe

Re: Sender domain must resolve error for some sites...
        40089 by: Duncan Watson
        40096 by: Aaron L. Meehan
        40108 by: Duncan Watson
        40121 by: Anthony White
        40126 by: Anthony White
        40127 by: Greg White
        40128 by: Greg White

Re: HTML mail considered harmful
        40090 by: David Dyer-Bennet
        40092 by: Kai MacTane

ezmlm-web.cgi question?
        40093 by: cdowns

using perl to send a list message
        40094 by: Justin Simoni
        40101 by: Justin Simoni
        40103 by: Kai MacTane
        40104 by: Nelson, Chris (USITG)
        40105 by: Chris Garrigues

Ezmlm-list Moderations
        40095 by: Martin Paulucci
        40102 by: Kins Orekhov

Re: VERP RFC
        40097 by: Claus F�rber
        40099 by: markd.bushwire.net

Help!
        40098 by: David Reid
        40110 by: Dave Sill

2 questions?
        40100 by: cdowns

Using tcpserver for other tcp applications
        40107 by: Stephen F. Bosch
        40109 by: Russell Nelson
        40112 by: Dave Kitabjian

"You have mail" problems...
        40111 by: John W. Lemons III

Qmail does not start at system start up
        40113 by: Scott Wilson
        40122 by: rogers-qmail.h0050da615e79.ne.mediaone.net

Re: Question.
        40114 by: Ben Beuchler

ucspi-tcp rpms
        40115 by: Mate Wierdl

new uscpi-tcp
        40116 by: Mate Wierdl

new rblsmtpd
        40117 by: Mate Wierdl
        40123 by: Russell Nelson

Re: Problem when starting qmail with the script
        40118 by: Aled Treharne

New Qmail Config. Need help
        40119 by: Tim_Clifton.candle.com
        40120 by: Kai MacTane

This is the qmail-send program at ....
        40129 by: Peter Janett

Web client with Ispell
        40130 by: Peter Janett

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Hi all,

I have instaled qmail with the spamcontrol 1.0.6 patch with the 
qmail-bounce.patch and the qmail-1.03-mfcheck.3.patch.

The problem is that the single addresses in badrcptto are not 
refused until the next rcpt.

The sequence of a session is like this.

bash-2.03# telnet mx.domain.com smtp
Trying 212.0.104.79...
Connected to mx.domain.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 mx.domain.com ESMTP
helo
250 mx.domain.com
mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 ok
rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 ok
rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
455 sorry, your envelope recipient is in my badrcptto list (#5.7.1)
   

Is it a bug in the spamcontrol patch or am I doing somthing wrong?

Thanks in advance

-- 
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Hi all,

There is a problem in the patch, it check the address with
badrcptto before parse the address of the rcpt to: header




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Hi all,

I have instaled qmail with the spamcontrol 1.0.6 patch with the 
qmail-bounce.patch and the qmail-1.03-mfcheck.3.patch.

The problem is that the single addresses in badrcptto are not 
refused until the next rcpt.

The sequence of a session is like this.

bash-2.03# telnet mx.domain.com smtp
Trying 212.0.104.79...
Connected to mx.domain.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 mx.domain.com ESMTP
helo
250 mx.domain.com
mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 ok
rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 ok
rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
455 sorry, your envelope recipient is in my badrcptto list (#5.7.1)
   

Is it a bug in the spamcontrol patch or am I doing somthing wrong?

Thanks in advance

-- 
Bernat Ginard Llad�
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]           http://www.kaos.es






Hi, 

thanks for the hint, 

my decision to put the parsing at that line in the code was bad.
However, the problem only occours with multiple RCPT TO:
I will change that in the next release. 
Thanks for the hint anyway.

regards.
eh.

At 17:44 14.4.2000 +0200, Bernat Ginard wrote:
> 
>Hi all,
>
>There is a problem in the patch, it check the address with
>badrcptto before parse the address of the rcpt to: header
>
>
>
>
>-- 
>Bernat Ginard Llad�
>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]          http://www.kaos.esX-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 12:33:53 +0200
>From: Bernat Ginard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i586)
>X-Accept-Language: en
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: SPAMCONTROL patch
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
>
>Hi all,
>
>I have instaled qmail with the spamcontrol 1.0.6 patch with the 
>qmail-bounce.patch and the qmail-1.03-mfcheck.3.patch.
>
>The problem is that the single addresses in badrcptto are not 
>refused until the next rcpt.
>
>The sequence of a session is like this.
>
>bash-2.03# telnet mx.domain.com smtp
>Trying 212.0.104.79...
>Connected to mx.domain.com.
>Escape character is '^]'.
>220 mx.domain.com ESMTP
>helo
>250 mx.domain.com
>mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>250 ok
>rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>250 ok
>rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>455 sorry, your envelope recipient is in my badrcptto list (#5.7.1)
>   
>
>Is it a bug in the spamcontrol patch or am I doing somthing wrong?
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>-- 
>Bernat Ginard Llad�
>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]          http://www.kaos.es
>
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Hi

I have some users on a qmail mail system. It works very well, but some
have requested a facility to make an auto-reply function for whenever
they are on vacation.

Does anybody know a solution for this, taking into account that the user

should be able to update the reply and dates (and they are only mail
users, not shell users) and that it preferably should run with virtual
mail uders ?

Thanks in advance.







HI

you can check out www.qmail.org

get the vaccation or autoresponse package from the site and install it.
On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, Kaare Rasmussen wrote:

> Hi
> 
> I have some users on a qmail mail system. It works very well, but some
> have requested a facility to make an auto-reply function for whenever
> they are on vacation.
> 
> Does anybody know a solution for this, taking into account that the user
> 
> should be able to update the reply and dates (and they are only mail
> users, not shell users) and that it preferably should run with virtual
> mail uders ?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> 
> 

- Admin.

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: echo 'foo.bar:foo.bar' >>/var/qmail/control/virtualdomains
: echo 'joe' > ~alias/.qmail-foo:bar-joe
: echo 'fred' > ~alias/.qmail-foo:bar-fred
: echo 'john' > ~alias/.qmail-foo:bar-default

: did you really mean to create an infinite loop, where [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: gets forwarded to [EMAIL PROTECTED]?  I assume that you mean john@`cat
: /var/qmail/control/defaulthost`.

Thanks.  I guess this should have occurred to me but I was a little worn out
last night.  

That's a strange format for the .qmail file names - where is that formatted?

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  Bit Twiddlers, Inc.                       cat and a monocle away from being
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Matthew Harrell was overheard saying:
: : echo 'foo.bar:foo.bar' >>/var/qmail/control/virtualdomains
: : echo 'joe' > ~alias/.qmail-foo:bar-joe
: : echo 'fred' > ~alias/.qmail-foo:bar-fred
: : echo 'john' > ~alias/.qmail-foo:bar-default
: 
: : did you really mean to create an infinite loop, where [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: : gets forwarded to [EMAIL PROTECTED]?  I assume that you mean john@`cat
: : /var/qmail/control/defaulthost`.
: 
: Thanks.  I guess this should have occurred to me but I was a little worn out
: last night.  
: 
: That's a strange format for the .qmail file names - where is that formatted?

BTW, it worked great once I remembered that I had to remove foo.bar from locals.

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  Bit Twiddlers, Inc.                       children - it leaves your
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]                 midsection unprotected.




Matthew Harrell writes:
 > BTW, it worked great once I remembered that I had to remove foo.bar from locals.

Yup.  IMHO, qmail should send mail to postmaster if it finds the same
domain in locals and virtualdomains.  This is NEVER correct.  It is
equally wrong to have an alias which matches a user.  The user always
overrides the alias.

My qmail-lint program checks for these errors, but it only helps if
you run it.

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Matthew Harrell writes:
 > : echo 'foo.bar:foo.bar' >>/var/qmail/control/virtualdomains
 > : echo 'joe' > ~alias/.qmail-foo:bar-joe
 > : echo 'fred' > ~alias/.qmail-foo:bar-fred
 > : echo 'john' > ~alias/.qmail-foo:bar-default
 > 
 > : did you really mean to create an infinite loop, where [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 > : gets forwarded to [EMAIL PROTECTED]?  I assume that you mean john@`cat
 > : /var/qmail/control/defaulthost`.
 > 
 > Thanks.  I guess this should have occurred to me but I was a little worn out
 > last night.  
 > 
 > That's a strange format for the .qmail file names - where is that formatted?

Do you mean documented?  I think you might be slightly lysdexic.  I
have it too, you see.  Sometimes the meaning in words I read or write
spills over between word boundaries.  I can usually catch it by
re-reading what I wrote.  Of course, if you're reading Harry Potter or
Narnia or Swallows and Amazons or All Creatures Great and Small out
loud to the family, it's too late, and they laugh at you.  :)

It's documented in qmail-local.8.  A dot gets changed into a colon
when qmail-local searches for .qmail filename matching the extension.

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521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | can force other people to
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | do for you..."  -Perry M.




: Do you mean documented?  I think you might be slightly lysdexic.  I
: have it too, you see.  Sometimes the meaning in words I read or write
: spills over between word boundaries.  I can usually catch it by
: re-reading what I wrote.  Of course, if you're reading Harry Potter or
: Narnia or Swallows and Amazons or All Creatures Great and Small out
: loud to the family, it's too late, and they laugh at you.  :)

Yep, with me it happens when I try to do too many things at once with a 
headache.  I really need to learn to reread that stuff I type but I don't 
think that even helps sometimes.

: It's documented in qmail-local.8.  A dot gets changed into a colon
: when qmail-local searches for .qmail filename matching the extension.

Got it.  Thanks.  I was just checking the dot-qmail page.

It seems to work well, though, so I'll have to remember that one in the 
future.

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  Matthew Harrell                          Any sufficiently advanced bug is
  Bit Twiddlers, Inc.                       indistinguishable from a feature.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]




John Levine wrote:
>The "sendmail" program is just a wrapper around qmail-inject, and does
>indeed look at those variables.  But it only looks at them if there
>isn't already a From: line, and pine is a helpful program that puts a
>From: line in messages it writes.

The thing is, I have set QMAILINJECT to sf, which should cause qmail-inject 
to ignore the incoming From: and Return-Path: fields. Glancing through the 
code (in qmail-inject.c), I can't see why this doesn't work. My only guess is 
that my environment doesn't get passed to qmail-inject when it's invoked by 
sendmail, but does get passed when I invoke qmail-inject directly. Does 
sendmail run as a different user ID or something? The executable's not setuid 
or setgid.

Michael




�Hello everyone!
I'm installing qmail for the first time and i wonder if it's mandatory to
install previously the ucsi-tcp daemon tools or if i may try with inetd
first....

Thanks in advance
Esteban Javier Pr�spero






"Pr�spero, Esteban" writes:
 > �Hello everyone!
 > I'm installing qmail for the first time and i wonder if it's mandatory to
 > install previously the ucsi-tcp daemon tools or if i may try with inetd
 > first....

ucspi-tcp installs like this:

tar xfz ucspi-tcp-0.88.tar.gz
make install

This is NOT rocket science.  But still, to answer your question, no,
you can use inetd, but why would you want to bother?  inetd is harder
to use than tcpserver, by far.  Just trying to wrap my head around
inetd's "You must supply argument 0 for the command as well as the
path to the command unless you use the default path (which varies from
vendor to vendor)" gives me a headache.  Just writing it *down* gives
me the shudders.

-- 
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Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | "Ask not what your country
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | can force other people to
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | do for you..."  -Perry M.




"Pr�spero, Esteban" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I'm installing qmail for the first time and i wonder if it's mandatory to
>install previously the ucsi-tcp daemon tools or if i may try with inetd
>first....

You certainly *can* use inetd, but I don't recommend it for the
following reasons:

  1) Documentation on installing with inetd is scarce.
  2) The use of inetd is "unsupported".
  3) Daemontools and ucspi-tcp work better than inetd and syslog.
  4) If you install with inetd+syslog and decide to switch to
     daemontools+ucspi-tcp, you pretty have to reinstall. Building and
     installing daemontools+ucspi-tcp is *very* easy.

-Dave




Wou, you've all certainly encouraged me to get rid of inetd!!! I'll do that
then... should I mind for other applications/services that use inetd
installed in my server before switching to ucsi-tcp or is it completely
"transparent" to them??

Thanks!
Esteban Javier Pr�spero

        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Dave Sill [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
        Sent:   Friday, April 14, 2000 10:11 AM
        To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        Subject:        Re: qmail, ucsi-tcp & inetd

        "Pr�spero, Esteban" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

        >I'm installing qmail for the first time and i wonder if it's
mandatory to
        >install previously the ucsi-tcp daemon tools or if i may try with
inetd
        >first....

        You certainly *can* use inetd, but I don't recommend it for the
        following reasons:

          1) Documentation on installing with inetd is scarce.
          2) The use of inetd is "unsupported".
          3) Daemontools and ucspi-tcp work better than inetd and syslog.
          4) If you install with inetd+syslog and decide to switch to
             daemontools+ucspi-tcp, you pretty have to reinstall. Building
and
             installing daemontools+ucspi-tcp is *very* easy.

        -Dave




On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, Russell Nelson wrote:

> "Pr�spero, Esteban" writes:
>  > �Hello everyone!
>  > I'm installing qmail for the first time and i wonder if it's mandatory to
>  > install previously the ucsi-tcp daemon tools or if i may try with inetd
>  > first....
> 
> ucspi-tcp installs like this:
> 
> tar xfz ucspi-tcp-0.88.tar.gz

tar xzf ucspi-tcp-0.88.tar.gz

Vince.
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> Wou, you've all certainly encouraged me to get rid of 
> inetd!!! I'll do that then... should I mind for other
> applications/services that use inetd installed in my
> server before switching to ucsi-tcp or is it completely
> "transparent" to them??

        As long as inetd is not configured to listen to the ports you want
tcpserver to listen to, the two coexist peacefully.

        It helps to understand the basic difference in the way they work:

        inetd takes a configuration file (/etc/inetd.conf) which tells it a
list of ports to listen to, and an associated program to run when traffic
comes in.  When inetd start up it binds to all those ports, and listens.

        tcpserver takes a command line argument which tells it what (single)
port to listen to, and an associated program to run when traffic comes in.
If you want to run multiple services, you need multiple running tcpserver
processes.

        If inetd.conf tells it to listen to the smtp port, and then you run
tcpserver to listen to smtp port, then tcpserver won't be able to run
because the port already has a listener.  Which leads back to my first
paragraph ;>.

        I have a system now that's not using inetd for anything.  All it
runs are qmail, identd, and dnscache under tcpserver, ssh and ftpd in
standalone mode.

-- 
        gowen -- Greg Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]




So, if I only want qmail to work with ucsi-tcp (and viceversa) I could keep
inetd for the other services, but should indicate it NOT to listen to the
smtp no pop3 port. Did I catch you right?

Thanks,
Esteban Javier Pr�spero


        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Greg Owen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
        Sent:   Friday, April 14, 2000 10:41 AM
        To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        Subject:        RE: qmail, ucsi-tcp & inetd

        > Wou, you've all certainly encouraged me to get rid of 
        > inetd!!! I'll do that then... should I mind for other
        > applications/services that use inetd installed in my
        > server before switching to ucsi-tcp or is it completely
        > "transparent" to them??

                As long as inetd is not configured to listen to the ports
you want
        tcpserver to listen to, the two coexist peacefully.

                It helps to understand the basic difference in the way they
work:

                inetd takes a configuration file (/etc/inetd.conf) which
tells it a
        list of ports to listen to, and an associated program to run when
traffic
        comes in.  When inetd start up it binds to all those ports, and
listens.

                tcpserver takes a command line argument which tells it what
(single)
        port to listen to, and an associated program to run when traffic
comes in.
        If you want to run multiple services, you need multiple running
tcpserver
        processes.

                If inetd.conf tells it to listen to the smtp port, and then
you run
        tcpserver to listen to smtp port, then tcpserver won't be able to
run
        because the port already has a listener.  Which leads back to my
first
        paragraph ;>.

                I have a system now that's not using inetd for anything.
All it
        runs are qmail, identd, and dnscache under tcpserver, ssh and ftpd
in
        standalone mode.

        -- 
                gowen -- Greg Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]




> tar xfz ucspi-tcp-0.88.tar.gz

tar xzf ucspi-tcp-0.88.tar.gz

Not really.  Tar is one of those inconsistent commands, like find, or
dd.  When you specify options that have parameters, the parameters
have to follow, but merely in the same order.  Options that don't have
parameters can appear in any order.

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Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | "Ask not what your country
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | can force other people to
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | do for you..."  -Perry M.




What is the z option for? my Solaris tar doesn't understand it...


Esteban Javier Pr�spero


        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Russell Nelson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
        Sent:   Friday, April 14, 2000 11:18 AM
        To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        Subject:        Re: qmail, ucsi-tcp & inetd

        > tar xfz ucspi-tcp-0.88.tar.gz

        tar xzf ucspi-tcp-0.88.tar.gz

        Not really.  Tar is one of those inconsistent commands, like find,
or
        dd.  When you specify options that have parameters, the parameters
        have to follow, but merely in the same order.  Options that don't
have
        parameters can appear in any order.

        -- 
        -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com
        Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | "Ask not what your
country
        521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | can force other
people to
        Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | do for you..."
-Perry M.




"Pr�spero, Esteban" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What is the z option for? my Solaris tar doesn't understand it...

GNU tar allows you to specify z for a gzipped tarball -- no need to
separately gzip/gunzip it.

If you don't want to install GNU tar, just do:
gunzip name.tar.gz
tar xf name.tar

Charles
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Its a GNU Tar feature (z means file is gzipped or should be gzipped)


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Prospero, Esteban" [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 10:22 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      RE: qmail, ucsi-tcp & inetd
> 
> What is the z option for? my Solaris tar doesn't understand it...
> 
> 
> Esteban Javier Prospero
> 
> 
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From:   Russell Nelson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>       Sent:   Friday, April 14, 2000 11:18 AM
>       To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>       Subject:        Re: qmail, ucsi-tcp & inetd
> 
>       > tar xfz ucspi-tcp-0.88.tar.gz
> 
>       tar xzf ucspi-tcp-0.88.tar.gz
> 
>       Not really.  Tar is one of those inconsistent commands, like find,
> or
>       dd.  When you specify options that have parameters, the parameters
>       have to follow, but merely in the same order.  Options that don't
> have
>       parameters can appear in any order.
> 
>       -- 
>       -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com
>       Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | "Ask not what your
> country
>       521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | can force other
> people to
>       Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | do for you..."
> -Perry M.




On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, Russell Nelson wrote:

> > tar xfz ucspi-tcp-0.88.tar.gz
> 
> tar xzf ucspi-tcp-0.88.tar.gz
> 
> Not really.  Tar is one of those inconsistent commands, like find, or
> dd.  When you specify options that have parameters, the parameters
> have to follow, but merely in the same order.  Options that don't have
> parameters can appear in any order.

Just tried it and you're right.  I tried it once on an older version of
tar and it looked for the file 'z'.

Vince.
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At 4/14/2000 10:44 AM -0300, Pr�spero, Esteban wrote or quoted:
>So, if I only want qmail to work with ucsi-tcp (and viceversa) I could keep
>inetd for the other services, but should indicate it NOT to listen to the
>smtp no pop3 port. Did I catch you right?

If you mean that you should tell inetd NOT to listen to the SMTP port (25) 
AND that it should NOT listen to the POP3 port (110) either, then you've 
got it exactly right. For that matter, you can even have inetd listen to 
port 110 and run qmail-pop3d when a connection comes in on that port. I've 
got a machine that runs like that with no problem (although the invocation 
line in inetd.conf is pretty hairy).

-----------------------------------------------------------------
                              Kai MacTane
                          System Administrator
                       Online Partners.com, Inc.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
 From the Jargon File: (v4.0.0, 25 Jul 1996)

finger trouble /n./

Mistyping, typos, or generalized keyboard incompetence (this is
surprisingly common among hackers, given the amount of time they
spend at keyboards). "I keep putting colons at the end of statements
instead of semicolons", "Finger trouble again, eh?".





On Solaris try something like

zcat blah.tar.gz | tar xf -


----- Original Message -----
From: "Pr�spero, Esteban" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 10:22 AM
Subject: RE: qmail, ucsi-tcp & inetd


What is the z option for? my Solaris tar doesn't understand it...


Esteban Javier Pr�spero









On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 10:44:10AM -0300, "Pr�spero, Esteban" wrote:
> So, if I only want qmail to work with ucsi-tcp (and viceversa) I could keep
> inetd for the other services, but should indicate it NOT to listen to the
> smtp no pop3 port. Did I catch you right?

Yes.

Greetz, Peter.
-- 
Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder 
|  
| 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot;
|  C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.'
|                             Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++




On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 11:22:28AM -0300, "Pr�spero, Esteban" wrote:
> What is the z option for? my Solaris tar doesn't understand it...

The z option says 'decompress'.

If your Solaris doesn't get it, this is a pretty generic one:

gzip -cd ucspi-tcp-0.88.tar.gz | tar xf -

Greetz, Peter.
-- 
Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder 
|  
| 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot;
|  C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.'
|                             Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++




Sorry about the typo, some times fingers are a little thick.

Steve P.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: newbie help


> > >   It might help if the domain existed according to the root name
> servers...
> > > why is it that so many of the Qmail-related sites are so often
> > > inaccessable?  I've never seen such a wildly succesfull program where
> so
> > > many of the support sites were so inaccessable. : )
> >
> > That was obviously a typo.  It's infoave.net.
>
>   Doh!
>
>   I guess that I was overly sensitive.  This morning I was trying to look
> up some qmail-related stuff, and a good number of the sites referenced
from
> www.qmail.org were not functioning, so I was probably still feeling the
> after-effects....
>
> steve
>
>




Hi list :

Is there any way to disable outside access to some local users, so they can
only send mail to the local domain, and in the same way, to disable them
from receiving from the Internet.

Thanks.
Eduardo.






I think my CNAME LOOKUP FAILURE is caused by router...

In fact my mail server's got 192.168.0.x IP and exit on internet throught
the router as 147.123.X.X.

So QMAIL gives CNAME LOOKUP FAILURE sending mails to remote hosts.

Is correct my idea?

How to solve this problem?

Sendmail works instead!



Best regards,

Miguel Beccari





Vincent Danen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi there.  Is there a way to increase qmail's delivery speed?  I've had a
> message sitting in the /var/qmail/queue/mess directory tree for over 15
> minutes.  There is the appropriate files in the
> /var/qmail/queue/todo.  It's currently 12:21am and the earliest file
> sitting in that directory is from 11:57pm, almost 25 minutes old!  I would
> like qmail to process mail a little faster than this.  Preferably, if I
> could have it deliver mail within a minute of receipt of it (or
> faster) that would be ideal.  All of these messages are for local users to
> the system, so I don't understand why qmail wants to hang on to them for
> so long?

Your trigger is probably screwed up.  Read "Life with qmail" or do a 
"make setup check".

Charles
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I've got a bunch of messages that the systems seems unable to process, can
they be removed without the seemingly painful process of removing the queue?
Here is the log:
Apr 14 15:45:47 4C:ella qmail: 955727147.699527 warning: unable to stat
mess/11/52359
Apr 14 15:45:47 4C:ella qmail: 955727147.722880 warning: unable to stat
mess/11/53440
Apr 14 15:45:47 4C:ella qmail: 955727147.725018 warning: unable to stat
mess/11/53463
Apr 14 15:45:47 4C:ella qmail: 955727147.725336 warning: unable to stat
mess/11/19975
Apr 14 15:45:47 4C:ella qmail: 955727147.725568 warning: unable to stat
mess/1/53476
Apr 14 15:45:47 4C:ella qmail: 955727147.725798 warning: unable to stat
mess/5/53480
Apr 14 15:45:47 4C:ella qmail: 955727147.726026 warning: unable to stat
mess/1/53499

These keep going round and round, I have about 350 messages always in the
queue, is this normal for a site with 1,300 accounts?


*************************************
John McCoy, Jr
Systems Administrator
Central Systems, Mills College
510-430-3321
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*************************************








> I've got a bunch of messages that the systems seems unable to process,
can
> they be removed without the seemingly painful process of removing the
queue?

> Here is the log:
> Apr 14 15:45:47 4C:ella qmail: 955727147.699527 warning: unable to stat
> mess/11/52359
> Apr 14 15:45:47 4C:ella qmail: 955727147.722880 warning: unable to stat
> mess/11/53440

  It looks like someone renamed or moved the queue.  Download queue-fix
from www.qmail.org, run it, and you should see those messages get delivered
succesfully.

steve






On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 11:50:52AM -0700, Anthony White wrote:
> There is no record pointing to the domain itself.  It points
> to 'mail.movielink.net.au'
> 
> All our incoming mail comes via one IP into a firewall, gets port
> forwarded to the mailserver and is processed.
> 
> We have no problems receiving mail.
> 
> All mail sent is shown to come from 'mail.movielink.net.au' with
> the IP of the firewall.  That IP currently resolves to 'mail.movielink.net.au'
> which does not match with <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and the error 451 is
> sent back to us.
> 
> Should I have that IP reverse lookup to resolve to 'movielink.net.au'
> instead?

>From my point of view the bouncing programs are broken.  Having no address
record for a domain but having MX records as you do is 100% valid.  I have
used that setup many times.  You want mail.movielink.net.au to reverse resolve
to the domain it claims to be (mail.movielink.net.au) for other reasons and
for filters that do checking correctly.  There is nothing wrong with
mascarading either ethically or technically.  Some zeolots are preaching that
all should resolve in their ideologically correct way but unfortunately many
of their ideologies are flawed in that they do not handle:
        1. dialup users needs
        2. certain types of firewall needs (yours)
        3. basically anything past a certain level of complexity.

Who is doing the bouncing?

/Duncan

-- 
Duncan Watson
nCube




Quoting Duncan Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 11:50:52AM -0700, Anthony White wrote:
> > There is no record pointing to the domain itself.  It points
> > to 'mail.movielink.net.au'

> >From my point of view the bouncing programs are broken.  Having no address
> record for a domain but having MX records as you do is 100% valid.  I have

Yes this is true, however his DNS setup is indeed broken.  Trying to
get an A record for movielink.net.au returns SERVFAIL, not merely
NXDOMAIN (no such domain).

; <<>> DiG 8.2 <<>> movielink.net.au a
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 4
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUERY SECTION:
;;      movielink.net.au, type = A, class = IN

Even our qmail server (with UCE patches) would reject his mail.
It's arguable...

Aaron





> used that setup many times.  You want mail.movielink.net.au to reverse resolve
> to the domain it claims to be (mail.movielink.net.au) for other reasons and
> for filters that do checking correctly.  There is nothing wrong with
> mascarading either ethically or technically.  Some zeolots are preaching that
> all should resolve in their ideologically correct way but unfortunately many
> of their ideologies are flawed in that they do not handle:
>       1. dialup users needs
>       2. certain types of firewall needs (yours)
>       3. basically anything past a certain level of complexity.
> 
> Who is doing the bouncing?
> 
> /Duncan
> 
> -- 
> Duncan Watson
> nCube

-- 
Aaron L. Meehan         [EMAIL PROTECTED]
System Administrator    Central Oregon Internet
           http://www.coinet.com/




On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 11:14:55AM -0700, Aaron L. Meehan wrote:
> Quoting Duncan Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 11:50:52AM -0700, Anthony White wrote:
> > > There is no record pointing to the domain itself.  It points
> > > to 'mail.movielink.net.au'
> 
> > >From my point of view the bouncing programs are broken.  Having no address
> > record for a domain but having MX records as you do is 100% valid.  I have
> 
> Yes this is true, however his DNS setup is indeed broken.  Trying to
> get an A record for movielink.net.au returns SERVFAIL, not merely
> NXDOMAIN (no such domain).
> 
> ; <<>> DiG 8.2 <<>> movielink.net.au a
> ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
> ;; got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 4
> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
> ;; QUERY SECTION:
> ;;      movielink.net.au, type = A, class = IN
> 
> Even our qmail server (with UCE patches) would reject his mail.
> It's arguable...
> 
> Aaron

There we go.  I only looked for valid MX'ng.  I also get the error you report
albiet via nslookup and debug=1.

Anthony if you are still reading, this should be your solution.  Fix you DNS
not to die when providing this address record.

/Duncan
 
-- 
Duncan Watson
nCube






Duncan Watson wrote:

> > All mail sent is shown to come from 'mail.movielink.net.au' with
> > the IP of the firewall.  That IP currently resolves to 'mail.movielink.net.au'
> > which does not match with <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and the error 451 is
> > sent back to us.
> >
> > Should I have that IP reverse lookup to resolve to 'movielink.net.au'
> > instead?
>
> >From my point of view the bouncing programs are broken.  Having no address
> record for a domain but having MX records as you do is 100% valid.  I have
>

That is what I thaught...

2 domains that do consistently not work are 'guestmail.net' and 'is.com.fj'
when I have reverse lookup set to 'mail.movielink.net.au'.

> used that setup many times.  You want mail.movielink.net.au to reverse resolve
> to the domain it claims to be (mail.movielink.net.au) for other reasons and
> for filters that do checking correctly.  There is nothing wrong with
> mascarading either ethically or technically.  Some zeolots are preaching that
> all should resolve in their ideologically correct way but unfortunately many
> of their ideologies are flawed in that they do not handle:
>         1. dialup users needs
>         2. certain types of firewall needs (yours)
>         3. basically anything past a certain level of complexity.

'guestmail.net' and 'is.com.fj'

I have got my ISP to change the reverse lookup to 'movielink.net.au'.

I dont know if this is valid but at least it the IP '139.130.11.172'
should reverse lookup to 'movielink.net.au' (Qmail still says HELO
'mail.movielink.net.au' which results in a message that it may
be forged but at least it should not stop things)

Now the "MAIL From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" should result in an OK
response if the receiving SMTP server looks up the IP address.

Anthony







Duncan Watson wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 11:14:55AM -0700, Aaron L. Meehan wrote:
> > Quoting Duncan Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

Why is is so difficoult, why am I getting conflicting messages
as to where the problem is?


> >
> > Even our qmail server (with UCE patches) would reject his mail.
> > It's arguable...
> >
> > Aaron
>
> There we go.  I only looked for valid MX'ng.  I also get the error you report
> albiet via nslookup and debug=1.

I will repeat how my mail works:
================================

1. All mail sent to the domain 'movielink.net.au' gets
   pointed to the machine 'mail.movielink.net.au' via
   an MX record with priority 20.

2. The IP address of 'mail.movielink.net.au' is listed
   in an A record in the DNS.  The IP address is
   '203.44.8.251'.

3. The 'movielink.net.au' domain is hosted at
   the DNS '203.2.193.124'.

4. Using nalookup in default mode fails if looking
   up 'movielink.net.au'.

5. All mail is received just fine at our site.

6. All outgoing mail is sent via qmail-smtpd to
   our firewall and "masqueraded" onto the internet
   IP address '139.130.11.172'.

7. Qmail sais "HELO mail.movielink.net.au" and the receiver
   replies ....xxx(may be forged).

Reverse lookup on IP '139.130.11.172' set to 'movielink.net.au'.
================================================================

'telnet guestmail.net 25' and used the 'HELO movielink.net.au'
then 'MAIL From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

This fails with error "451 Sender domain must resolve..."

'telnet guestmail.net 25' and used the 'HELO mail.movielink.net.au'
then 'MAIL From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

This fails with error "451 Sender domain must resolve..."

'telnet guestmail.net 25' and used the 'HELO mail.movielink.net.au'
then 'MAIL From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

This fails with error "451 Sender domain must resolve..."

Reverse lookup on IP '139.130.11.172' set to 'mail.movielink.net.au'.
=====================================================================

'telnet guestmail.net 25' and used the 'HELO movielink.net.au'
then 'MAIL From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

This fails with error "451 Sender domain must resolve..."

'telnet guestmail.net 25' and used the 'HELO mail.movielink.net.au'
then 'MAIL From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

This fails with error "451 Sender domain must resolve..."

'telnet guestmail.net 25' and used the 'HELO mail.movielink.net.au'
then 'MAIL From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

This is "OK".



I am lost....


>
>
> Anthony if you are still reading, this should be your solution.  Fix you DNS
> not to die when providing this address record.
>

DNS records.
-----------

Server:  oznet.ozemail.com.au
Address:  203.2.193.124

Non-authoritative answer:
movielink.net.au        preference = 20, mail exchanger = mail.movielink.net.au
movielink.net.au        preference = 50, mail exchanger = mail.mel.aone.net.au
movielink.net.au        preference = 100, mail exchanger = mx1.mel.aone.net.au
movielink.net.au        preference = 200, mail exchanger = mx2.syd.aone.net.au
movielink.net.au        nameserver = ns0.mel.aone.net.au
movielink.net.au        nameserver = ns1.mel.aone.net.au
movielink.net.au        nameserver = ns2.syd.aone.net.au
movielink.net.au
        origin = ns0.mel.aone.net.au
        mail addr = hostmaster.aone.net.au
        serial = 2000032800
        refresh = 28800 (8H)
        retry   = 7200 (2H)
        expire  = 2592000 (4w2d)
        minimum ttl = 86400 (1D)

Authoritative answers can be found from:
mail.movielink.net.au   internet address = 203.44.8.251
mail.mel.aone.net.au    internet address = 203.2.192.66
mx1.mel.aone.net.au     internet address = 203.108.7.46
mx2.syd.aone.net.au     internet address = 203.108.7.41
ns0.mel.aone.net.au     internet address = 203.2.192.95
ns1.mel.aone.net.au     internet address = 203.2.192.94
ns2.syd.aone.net.au     internet address = 203.2.193.123
>


If someone could tel me where the problem is I would be happy.

Anthony






Anthony White wrote:
> 
> Duncan Watson wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 11:14:55AM -0700, Aaron L. Meehan wrote:
> > > Quoting Duncan Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> Why is is so difficoult, why am I getting conflicting messages
> as to where the problem is?

Well, it seems pretty straightforward to me, a humble end user... here
is a query:

gandalf:~$ dig @ns0.me1.aone.net.au movielink.net.au

; <<>> DiG 8.2 <<>> @ns0.me1.aone.net.au movielink.net.au 
; Bad server: ns0.me1.aone.net.au -- using default server and timer opts
; (2 servers found)
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 6
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUERY SECTION:
;;      movielink.net.au, type = A, class = IN

;; Total query time: 38 msec
;; FROM: gandalf to SERVER: default -- 127.0.0.1
;; WHEN: Fri Apr 14 21:44:05 2000
;; MSG SIZE  sent: 34  rcvd: 34

IMHO, returning SERVFAIL is a Bad Thing(TM). I do not by any means
consider myself either a DNS or SMTP wizard, but I would think that when
the SMTP server tries to resolve movielink.net.au, it should get some
sort of answer, not either of SERVFAIL or NXDOMAIN*. For example, Mr.
Bernstein's domain:

gandalf:~$ dig cr.yp.to     

; <<>> DiG 8.2 <<>> cr.yp.to 
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 4
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUERY SECTION:
;;      cr.yp.to, type = A, class = IN

;; ANSWER SECTION:
cr.yp.to.               0S IN A         131.193.178.181

;; Total query time: 922 msec
;; FROM: gandalf to SERVER: default -- 127.0.0.1
;; WHEN: Fri Apr 14 21:49:56 2000
;; MSG SIZE  sent: 26  rcvd: 42

So, it looks to me as if the domain name must resolve to an A record. 

* I believe it was mentioned earlier in the list that perhaps if the DNS
answered authoritatively that there was no such animal as
movielink.net.au, the lookup would then fall back to the MX record's
name, mail.movielink.net.au. I cannot be sure if that is the case,
having always made sure that the domain name resolved to an A record.

GW




SNIP

Oops. Finger trouble. The NS in my original post is mistyped. My
apologies.

However, the correctly typed server name still returns SERVFAIL.

GW




Kai MacTane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 13 April 2000 at 12:25:14 -0700
 > At 4/13/2000 10:28 AM -0400, Russell Nelson wrote or quoted:
 > 
 > >Yes, anyone has such code.  It's now at http://www.qmail.org/no-alternative.
 > 
 > This looks pretty cool, but it would be even cooler if it could be set to 
 > generate a bounce message to the sender, telling them that this email 
 > address doesn't accept HTML mail.
 > 
 > I realize you're a busy man, so consider this just a suggestion for future 
 > expansion when you have time (or a feature request), along with thanks for 
 > taking the time to write this in the first place.

Using your knowledge of mime format, or else using Russell's code as a
base (since it already contains the code to find the various parts),
make a program that decides if a message contains html or not.  Then
use that program in conjunction with bouncesaying (part of the qmail
package) in your .qmail file.  This is a per-user solution rather than
a system-wide solution.
-- 
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David Dyer-Bennet / Welcome to the future! / [EMAIL PROTECTED]




At 4/14/2000 11:39 AM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote or quoted:

>Using your knowledge of mime format, or else using Russell's code as a
>base (since it already contains the code to find the various parts),
>make a program that decides if a message contains html or not.  Then
>use that program in conjunction with bouncesaying (part of the qmail
>package) in your .qmail file.

Thanks, good point. Haven't needed bouncesaying before this.

>This is a per-user solution rather than a system-wide solution.

So I noticed; that's one of the reasons I like it.

BTW, no need to cc: me, I'm on the list.

-----------------------------------------------------------------
                              Kai MacTane
                          System Administrator
                       Online Partners.com, Inc.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
 From the Jargon File: (v4.0.0, 25 Jul 1996)

finger trouble /n./

Mistyping, typos, or generalized keyboard incompetence (this is
surprisingly common among hackers, given the amount of time they
spend at keyboards). "I keep putting colons at the end of statements
instead of semicolons", "Finger trouble again, eh?".





can some one help or give advice to the ezmlmrc used in setting up the
ezmlm-web.cgi interface? i have eveything else running fine, but hoiw do
i get the lists to show up on the cgi page for editting? is there a
ezmlm-make -e switch or something? thanks all.

christopher m downs
administrator
www.fplc.edu






hello! 
i'm trying to send a list message inside a perl program. we have qmail on
our server, i was wondering if anyone knew how to do this. i have no
problem sending an email using perl, but i was wondering if there is a
flag i can give to qmail to say: "hey, send this messsage to the people in
this list: /home/justin/www/cgi-bin/lovely_people.list 

i'd rather not have to keep all the people on the list in a .qmail file,
that would make the perl script i'm working less likely to be portable and
that means more work for me, and i'm a lazy perl programmer. any help
would be great, if any one can give me some info to do this with sendmail,
that would also be keen. i think the path to sendmail goes to qmail
anyways on my system ;) 

thanks again 


-justin simoni
   !skazat! => http://skazat.com

Every day I send overnight packages
filled with rabid
weasels to people
who use frames for no
good reason. 
- -- The Usenet Oracle,
Oracularity
#1017-1 

http://skazat.com/quotes





> not a qmail question, but if I understand what your
> trying to do correctly, then isn't this what you want to do? :you
>
> open (LIST,"/home/justin/www/cgi-bin/lovely_people.list");
> foreach (<LIST>) {
>   #send mail to "$_"
>  }

thats how its doing it now ;) but i'd rather have qmail or sendmail handle
that for me, 
1)it's probably more efficient for qmail to do the dirty work 
2)this list has about 1000 people, and it takes more than a couple minutes
for  perl to go through that all,making my program look like its hanging
;( 


-justin simoni
   !skazat! => http://skazat.com

On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, Brian Johnson wrote:

> this is a perl question, not a qmail question, but if I understand what your
> trying to do correctly, then isn't this what you want to do? :you
> 
> open (LIST,"/home/justin/www/cgi-bin/lovely_people.list");
> foreach (<LIST>) {
>   #send mail to "$_"
>  }
> close(LIST);
> 
> and put one e-mail per line into that file..
> -Brian
> 
> Justin Simoni wrote:
> 
> > hello!
> > i'm trying to send a list message inside a perl program. we have qmail on
> > our server, i was wondering if anyone knew how to do this. i have no
> > problem sending an email using perl, but i was wondering if there is a
> > flag i can give to qmail to say: "hey, send this messsage to the people in
> > this list: /home/justin/www/cgi-bin/lovely_people.list
> 
> 





At 4/14/2000 01:47 PM -0500, Justin Simoni wrote or quoted:

>thats how its doing it now ;) but i'd rather have qmail or sendmail handle
>that for me,
>1)it's probably more efficient for qmail to do the dirty work
>2)this list has about 1000 people, and it takes more than a couple minutes
>for perl to go through that all,making my program look like its hanging

So why not just make an alias with all the addresses in it, and have your 
perl script send one mail to that alias?

ln -s /home/justin/www/cgi-bin/lovely_people.list 
/var/qmail/alias/.qmail-listname

Then:

#!/usr/bin/perl

&send_mail_to('[EMAIL PROTECTED]');

-----------------------------------------------------------------
                              Kai MacTane
                          System Administrator
                       Online Partners.com, Inc.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
 From the Jargon File: (v4.0.0, 25 Jul 1996)

finger trouble /n./

Mistyping, typos, or generalized keyboard incompetence (this is
surprisingly common among hackers, given the amount of time they
spend at keyboards). "I keep putting colons at the end of statements
instead of semicolons", "Finger trouble again, eh?".





this should have gone to the list.

-----Original Message-----
From: Nelson, Chris (USITG) 
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 12:03 PM
To: 'Justin Simoni'
Subject: RE: using perl to send a list message


You could consider using QMQP to send the mail. Then you just have to pass
one copy of the message and a list of RCPTS. I do this to send email to
40000+ people and it works great.

-Chris


-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Simoni [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 11:47 AM
To: Brian Johnson
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: using perl to send a list message


> not a qmail question, but if I understand what your
> trying to do correctly, then isn't this what you want to do? :you
>
> open (LIST,"/home/justin/www/cgi-bin/lovely_people.list");
> foreach (<LIST>) {
>   #send mail to "$_"
>  }

thats how its doing it now ;) but i'd rather have qmail or sendmail handle
that for me, 
1)it's probably more efficient for qmail to do the dirty work 
2)this list has about 1000 people, and it takes more than a couple minutes
for  perl to go through that all,making my program look like its hanging
;( 


-justin simoni
   !skazat! => http://skazat.com

On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, Brian Johnson wrote:

> this is a perl question, not a qmail question, but if I understand what
your
> trying to do correctly, then isn't this what you want to do? :you
> 
> open (LIST,"/home/justin/www/cgi-bin/lovely_people.list");
> foreach (<LIST>) {
>   #send mail to "$_"
>  }
> close(LIST);
> 
> and put one e-mail per line into that file..
> -Brian
> 
> Justin Simoni wrote:
> 
> > hello!
> > i'm trying to send a list message inside a perl program. we have qmail
on
> > our server, i was wondering if anyone knew how to do this. i have no
> > problem sending an email using perl, but i was wondering if there is a
> > flag i can give to qmail to say: "hey, send this messsage to the people
in
> > this list: /home/justin/www/cgi-bin/lovely_people.list
> 
> 






> From:  Justin Simoni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date:  Fri, 14 Apr 2000 13:47:05 -0500 (EST)
>
> > not a qmail question, but if I understand what your
> > trying to do correctly, then isn't this what you want to do? :you
> >
> > open (LIST,"/home/justin/www/cgi-bin/lovely_people.list");
> > foreach (<LIST>) {
> >   #send mail to "$_"
> >  }
> 
> thats how its doing it now ;) but i'd rather have qmail or sendmail handle
> that for me, 
> 1)it's probably more efficient for qmail to do the dirty work 
> 2)this list has about 1000 people, and it takes more than a couple minutes
> for  perl to go through that all,making my program look like its hanging
> ;( 

Short of installing exmlm-idx as was mentioned, why not just include all the 
users on the command line something like this:

open (LIST,"/home/justin/www/cgi-bin/lovely_people.list") or 
        die "Couldn't open LIST: $!";
open (MAIL, "|/var/qmail/bin/qmailinject " . join(' ', <LIST>) or
        die "Couldn't open pipe to qmailinject: $!";
print MAIL $mailmessage;
close(MAIL) or die "Couldn't close pipe to qmailinject: $!";
close(LIST);

[ Not tested, of course...you may need to chomp the lines from the file or 
something... ]

Chris
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Hi All,

I know this is not exactly the place to write, but I'm sure you all can help me with 
this simple question: I have a list and want only 5 people to write to that list, and 
not the others. And it should be moderated. I'm using ezmlm-0.53. How can I do that? I 
checked in www.ezmlm.org and could find the answer. 

Thanks!!!!





> I know this is not exactly the place to write, but I'm sure you all can help 
> me with this simple question: I have a list and want only 5 people to
> write to that list, and not the others. And it should be moderated. I'm
> using ezmlm-0.53. How can I do that? I checked in www.ezmlm.org and
> could find the answer. 

Switch to ezmlm-idx.
ftp://ftp.id.wustl.edu/pub/patches/

A lot of great features.

-- 
Kins Orekhov
Outlook Technologies, Inc.
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 773-775-2099, ext. 226
http://swoop.outlook.net





John White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb/wrote:
> Actually, you can use the user-@domain-@[] format when talking
> to qmail-smtpd, and the VERP expansion will be handled.

I'd call that a bug.

-- 
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On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 05:01:00PM +0100, Claus F�rber wrote:
> John White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb/wrote:
> > Actually, you can use the user-@domain-@[] format when talking
> > to qmail-smtpd, and the VERP expansion will be handled.
> 
> I'd call that a bug.

Isn't it handled by qmail-send and isn't it documented as an
extention?

Since the processing happens prior to any involvement by standards,
such as RFCs, isn't it a local processing feature rather than
a bug? That it's inband signalling may not be so great, but that
doesn't make it a bug.


Regards.




I've been working on getting a version of qmail to work on BeOS.  I 
won't call it porting as the changes required are too great at present 
(should be possible with the networking stack).  I have a couple of 
questions that maybe one of you guru's can asnwer?

When a new message is delivered to queue/mess/** how does qmail-send 
get told to do something about it?
How is the message cleaned up and removed once it's been delivered?

These two bits don't work for me, but it delivers messages fine if I 
restart qmail-send, but as it doesn't remove them it keeps delivering 
them every time I restart!!  Not ideal.

Anyway, your help will be appreciated.

david




[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>I've been working on getting a version of qmail to work on BeOS.  I 
>won't call it porting as the changes required are too great at present 
>(should be possible with the networking stack).  I have a couple of 
>questions that maybe one of you guru's can asnwer?
>
>When a new message is delivered to queue/mess/** how does qmail-send 
>get told to do something about it?
>How is the message cleaned up and removed once it's been delivered?
>
>These two bits don't work for me, but it delivers messages fine if I 
>restart qmail-send, but as it doesn't remove them it keeps delivering 
>them every time I restart!!  Not ideal.
>
>Anyway, your help will be appreciated.

Look at INTERNALS in the build directory. The "trigger" named pipe is
how qmail-queue notifies qmail-send of a new message. qmail-clean,
called by qmail-send, cleans the queue.

-Dave




1: to create a list with the likes of [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of the
normal [EMAIL PROTECTED] what needs to be done to do this?
2: to get the cgi services like all lists for web creattion and editting
( i already edited the ezmlm-web.cgi script ) so you can actually see
them on the web page?


thanks again, chris





Russell Nelson wrote:

> ucspi-tcp installs like this:
> 
> tar xfz ucspi-tcp-0.88.tar.gz
> make install
> 
> This is NOT rocket science.  But still, to answer your question, no,
> you can use inetd, but why would you want to bother?  inetd is harder
> to use than tcpserver, by far.  Just trying to wrap my head around
> inetd's "You must supply argument 0 for the command as well as the
> path to the command unless you use the default path (which varies from
> vendor to vendor)" gives me a headache.  Just writing it *down* gives
> me the shudders.

I'd like to use tcpserver for other things, too, like telnet and ftp. Is
there an ucspi-tcp mailing list (I found the available docs for them
impenetrable - not like the qmail stuff at all)?

-Stephen-




Stephen F. Bosch writes:
 > I'd like to use tcpserver for other things, too, like telnet and ftp. Is
 > there an ucspi-tcp mailing list (I found the available docs for them
 > impenetrable - not like the qmail stuff at all)?

I use it for rsync and ftpd.

(supervise)
\_ tcpserver 0 873 /usr/local/bin/rsync --daemon 
(supervise)
\_ tcpserver 0 21 /usr/sbin/in.ftpd -l -a

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Well, we use it for some internal servers that that I've written myself.
I wrote my servers in C, and have them reading/writing to stdin/stdout.
On the other end I have VB applications talking to them through the Send
and Get methods of the Winsock control. They pass messages back and
forth using a text API that we defined. It's a rather beautiful harmony
of Unix and NT. 

Dave
:)

-----Original Message-----
From: sfbosch [mailto:sfbosch]On Behalf Of Stephen F. Bosch
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 1:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Using tcpserver for other tcp applications


Russell Nelson wrote:

> ucspi-tcp installs like this:
> 
> tar xfz ucspi-tcp-0.88.tar.gz
> make install
> 
> This is NOT rocket science.  But still, to answer your question, no,
> you can use inetd, but why would you want to bother?  inetd is harder
> to use than tcpserver, by far.  Just trying to wrap my head around
> inetd's "You must supply argument 0 for the command as well as the
> path to the command unless you use the default path (which varies from
> vendor to vendor)" gives me a headache.  Just writing it *down* gives
> me the shudders.

I'd like to use tcpserver for other things, too, like telnet and ftp. Is
there an ucspi-tcp mailing list (I found the available docs for them
impenetrable - not like the qmail stuff at all)?

-Stephen-




(If I'm being stupid, just slap my hand and put me to bed without my dinner)

"You have mail." appears every time I log into my server.  This would
normally be no big deal, except that the only mail message is the "Mail
system internal data" message.  Before QMail, this one message wouldn't set
off the "You have mail" message.  Do I have something mis-configured?

Thanks
John






I'm running Red Hat 6.1 and qmail 1.03. I have followed LWQ step by step.
However, I am unable to get qmail to start when the system starts. I have
done all of the rcX.d links just as LWQ specifies and I have no problem
running the "qmail  start" command from the command line. Qmail starts just
as it should. But it will not start at boot-up. There is no indication in
/var/log/messages that the system even tried to execute the startup script,
no mention of qmail what so ever. The startup script was working on the
first Linux box I installed Qmail on and now I am installing a second box
and cannot get it to work. I have spent all day comparing the configurations
of the two boxes and can find no differences. What I did try was adding
"ln -s ../init.d/qmail  /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S80qmail" . When I did this qmail
started when the system was rebooted. This is not in LWQ and I was wondering
if it might cause a problem? I'm new to Linux and unsure of the
consequences. What could I be missing? Suggestions on what I might be
causing my problem?

Thank you,






   From: Scott Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 16:14:31 -0500

   I'm running Red Hat 6.1 and qmail 1.03. I have followed LWQ step by step.
   However, I am unable to get qmail to start when the system starts. 
   . . . I did try was adding
   "ln -s ../init.d/qmail  /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S80qmail" . When I did this qmail
   started when the system was rebooted. This is not in LWQ and I was wondering
   if it might cause a problem? I'm new to Linux and unsure of the
   consequences. What could I be missing? Suggestions on what I might be
   causing my problem?

   Thank you,

That should be the right thing.  What I have looks like this:

    rgr> find /etc/rc.d/ -name '*qmail' -ls
    278722    2 -rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root         1745 Mar  5 20:49 
/etc/rc.d/init.d/qmail
    280651    1 lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root           15 Mar  5 21:34 
/etc/rc.d/rc0.d/K30qmail -> ../init.d/qmail
    305212    1 lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root           15 Mar  5 21:34 
/etc/rc.d/rc1.d/K30qmail -> ../init.d/qmail
    311415    1 lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root           15 Mar  5 21:35 
/etc/rc.d/rc2.d/S80qmail -> ../init.d/qmail
    315534    1 lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root           15 Mar  5 21:35 
/etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S80qmail -> ../init.d/qmail
    323896    1 lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root           15 Mar  5 21:35 
/etc/rc.d/rc4.d/S80qmail -> ../init.d/qmail
    327979    1 lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root           15 Mar  5 21:35 
/etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S80qmail -> ../init.d/qmail
    331878    1 lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root           15 Mar  5 21:34 
/etc/rc.d/rc6.d/K30qmail -> ../init.d/qmail
    rgr> 

This is for RH 6.0; you should compare your setup.  (Mine is not fully
LWQ, though, but that doesn't affect the /etc/rc.d/ setup.)

                                        -- Bob Rogers





On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 09:27:48AM +0200, Patrick Fremond wrote:


> Is it possible to have a linux box behind a modem and Qmail an to do this?
> 
> -To use the mail server locally
> -To send email on the internet
> -And to get mails from internet from a second server located on the internet

Yup.  You want DJB's serialmail package, available from the qmail site.

Ben

-- 
"There is no spoon"
        -- The Matrix




I put two rpms in 

ftp://moni.msci.memphis.edu/pub/alpha

One is the latest version of ucspi-tcp.  The second is ucspi-tcp-run,
which contains update-inetd from debian, and an rblsmtpd.init file,
since ucspi-tcp now has to obsolete rblsmtpd.  Please stop rblsmtpd
before installing ucspi-tcp.

I'd like to emphasize, that the rblsmtpd.init script is still set up
to work only with daemontools-0.53.  I am still beautifying the new
initscripts.

Mate




Thx for the -X option for tcpserver.

Mate




Does not the new rblsmtpd obsolete Russ's patches, or is their any
functionality that is still not provided by the new rblsmtpd?

Thx

Mate




Mate Wierdl writes:
 > Does not the new rblsmtpd obsolete Russ's patches, or is their any
 > functionality that is still not provided by the new rblsmtpd?

You can make your own decision, but ... I use the new rblsmtpd.

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Ok, I've been following the steps in LWQ word by word and editing where
necessary for my system (uname -a: FreeBSD marilyn.cmgww.com 3.4-RELEASE
FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE #1: Fri Feb 18 17:54:53 EST 2000
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/compile/MARILYN  i386). 

My problem is when I run 'qmail start'. I get a message from multilog :
Fatal error : cannot change to current directory : access denied

This goes to stderr. I've changed the permissions on /var/log/qmail and
below to a+rwx temporarily and that doesn't help. I've noticed that I don't
have setuidgid on my system. Is there a way I can work around this, or
somehow get it working? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
Aled.

Output of qmail-showctl:

qmail home directory: /var/qmail.
user-ext delimiter: -.
paternalism (in decimal): 2.
silent concurrency limit: 120.
subdirectory split: 23.
user ids: 81, 82, 83, 0, 84, 85, 86, 87.
group ids: 81, 82.

badmailfrom: (Default.) Any MAIL FROM is allowed.

bouncefrom: (Default.) Bounce user name is MAILER-DAEMON.

bouncehost: (Default.) Bounce host name is marilyn.cmgww.com.

concurrencylocal: (Default.) Local concurrency is 10.

concurrencyremote: (Default.) Remote concurrency is 20.

databytes: (Default.) SMTP DATA limit is 0 bytes.

defaultdomain: (Default.) Default domain name is marilyn.cmgww.com.

defaulthost: Default host name is cmgww.com.

doublebouncehost: (Default.) 2B recipient host: marilyn.cmgww.com.

doublebounceto: (Default.) 2B recipient user: postmaster.

envnoathost: (Default.) Presumed domain name is marilyn.cmgww.com.

helohost: (Default.) SMTP client HELO host name is marilyn.cmgww.com.

idhost: (Default.) Message-ID host name is marilyn.cmgww.com.

localiphost: (Default.) Local IP address becomes marilyn.cmgww.com.

locals: (Default.) Messages for me are delivered locally.

me: My name is marilyn.cmgww.com.

percenthack: (Default.) The percent hack is not allowed.

plusdomain: (Default.) Plus domain name is marilyn.cmgww.com.

qmqpservers: (Default.) No QMQP servers.

queuelifetime: (Default.) Message lifetime in the queue is 604800 seconds.

rcpthosts:
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at cmgww.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at marilyn.cmgww.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at marilynmonroe.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at jamesdean.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at bettipage.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at baberuth.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at richardpryor.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at sophialoren.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at jackie42.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at 4pmg.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at racevacations.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at cmgsolutions.com.

morercpthosts: (Default.) No effect.

morercpthosts.cdb: (Default.) No effect.

smtpgreeting: (Default.) SMTP greeting: 220 marilyn.cmgww.com.

smtproutes: (Default.) No artificial SMTP routes.

timeoutconnect: (Default.) SMTP client connection timeout is 60 seconds.

timeoutremote: (Default.) SMTP client data timeout is 1200 seconds.

timeoutsmtpd: (Default.) SMTP server data timeout is 1200 seconds.

virtualdomains:
Virtual domain: cmgww.com:cmgmail
Virtual domain: marilynmonroe.com:monm
Virtual domain: jamesdean.com:denj
Virtual domain: baberuth.com:rutb
Virtual domain: richardpryor.com:pryr
Virtual domain: sophialoren.com:lors
Virtual domain: jackie42.com:rbnj
Virtual domain: bettiepage.com:pagb
Virtual domain: 4pmg.com:pmg
Virtual domain: racevacations.com:urv
Virtual domain: cmgsolutions.com:cmgsol







I have successfully installed QMAIL (memphis RPM) and it is running but I need
help with configuring the thing.  I need to get Win 98 clients to be able to
send/recieve mail so i think that this means pop mail access.

My domain has a web (IIS/NT domain controller) server host,  a mail
(linux/qmail) server  host and Win98 (NT Domain clients) workstations.  My ISP's
DNS servers are authoritative for my domain.

After reading all the doc i could find, I still have several quesitons:

1.  How do I create mail accounts to support pop3 access? is it system accounts
on the mail server or qmail 'managed' accounts?  Howto in either case?

2. Do I need to convert to Maildir from Mailbox to support pop authentication?
Do I need to install checkpassword utility?  howto in either case?

3. Can I use MS Outlook at the Win98 clients to send / recieve mail via pop3

4. What DNS entries does my ISP have to make on the authoritative DNS for my
domain.

The DNS entries at my ISP are currently:

www.mydomain.com    IPADDRESS A
mail.mydomain.com   IPADDRESS B
mydomain.com        IPADDRESS B

>From reading, I believe I need an MX record as follows:
MX  mydomain.com    IPADDRESS B


Any help is appreciated.

BTW is there a book out on qmail?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]






At 4/14/2000 04:43 PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote or quoted:

>I need to get Win 98 clients to be able to send/recieve mail so i think 
>that this means pop mail access.

You got it. (IMAP is a possibility, I suppose, but there are a great 
variety of Windows clients that support POP3, and people are used to them.)

>1.  How do I create mail accounts to support pop3 access? is it system 
>accounts on the mail server or qmail 'managed' accounts?  Howto in either case?

Either is possible. If you don't have too many users, system accounts on 
the qmail machine is a fine way to go. Alternatively, you can use something 
like the vpopmail system, available from http://www.inter7.com/vpopmail/. 
However, if you're just running one domain, and have less than, say, a 
hundred users, this is probably overkill.

Anyway, I have never used vpopmail and wouldn't even begin to think about 
supporting someone else on its use. For normal system accounts, just create 
the accounts in whatever way is standard for your system. (Probably 
/usr/sbin/useradd or its moral equivalent -- use the man page to find out 
about useful switches for useradd.)

NOTE: You may want to hold off on creating those accounts until you've set 
up your skel directory, especially if you'll be delivering into Maildirs 
(see below).

>2. Do I need to convert to Maildir from Mailbox to support pop 
>authentication? Do I need to install checkpassword utility?  howto in 
>either case?

You only *need* to convert to Maildir if you're planning to use Qmail's 
supplied POP3 daemon (qmail-pop3d). It only understands Maildirs. If you 
feel like downloading and installing a different POP3 daemon, such as 
Qualcomm's qpopper or UW-IMAP, you can stick with mailbox delivery. Again, 
I use qmail-pop3d, so further advice is predicated on that.

Using qmail-pop3d, you do need to use checkpassword to authenticate users. 
(I *think* that's still the case with the others, too, but I'm not positive.)

Dave Sill's Life With Qmail (http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html) has 
good instructions on setting up qmail-pop3d, in section 5.2.1.

If you want to use Maildirs, you'll probably want to set up your server so 
that all new user accounts automatically get created with a proper Maildir 
setup already in them. (Otherwise, qmail will defer all mail to any user 
without a Maildir, for obvious reasons.) The easy way to do this is to do 
something like:

    maildirmake /etc/skel

where /etc/skel is the usual location of the default user home-dir setup 
files, and maildirmake may need to be preceded by the path to the 
executable (usually /var/qmail/bin). Check on your system to be sure of the 
appropriate locations.

Once you've set up a Maildir in the skel directory, all new user accounts 
created after that will automatically have a Maildir in their home dirs, 
and will receive mail naturally.

>3. Can I use MS Outlook at the Win98 clients to send / recieve mail via pop3

Sure. You can also use Eudora, Netscape Mail, PegasusMail, and any other 
mail client that speaks POP3. The server doesn't care. You can even have 
each user use a different one.

>4. What DNS entries does my ISP have to make on the authoritative DNS for 
>my domain.
>
>The DNS entries at my ISP are currently:
>
>www.mydomain.com    IPADDRESS A
>mail.mydomain.com   IPADDRESS B
>mydomain.com        IPADDRESS B
>
> From reading, I believe I need an MX record as follows:
>MX  mydomain.com    IPADDRESS B

I am not a DNS expert, but that looks reasonable to me, except that you'll 
want there to be an MX value as well -- usually around 10 for the primary 
MX. If you have a backup MX designated, that would usually be 20.

>BTW is there a book out on qmail?

It's in the works.

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                              Kai MacTane
                          System Administrator
                       Online Partners.com, Inc.
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 From the Jargon File: (v4.0.0, 25 Jul 1996)

finger trouble /n./

Mistyping, typos, or generalized keyboard incompetence (this is
surprisingly common among hackers, given the amount of time they
spend at keyboards). "I keep putting colons at the end of statements
instead of semicolons", "Finger trouble again, eh?".





I am using Qmail on a virtual web server, and would like bounced messages to
use the domain they were sent to in the bounced messages, following this
line:
"This is the qmail-send program at VIRTUAL DOMAIN HERE".

I am guessing this is a tough trick, as I did a little searching, and didn't
seem to find anything.  I'm using Paul Gregg's checkpassword.

Any and all help appreciated.

Thanks,

Peter Janett

New Media One Web Services
  ~Professional results with a personal touch~
      http://www.newmediaone.net
      [EMAIL PROTECTED]
      (303)828-9882





A while back, I found a great web based POP client that had spell check
which used Ispell.

I can't seem to find it.  I believe it used Maildir directly.

Anyone have any idea as to what this program was?

Thanks,

Peter Janett

New Media One Web Services
  ~Professional results with a personal touch~
      http://www.newmediaone.net
      [EMAIL PROTECTED]
      (303)828-9882





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