qmail Digest 14 Apr 2000 10:00:00 -0000 Issue 971
Topics (messages 40004 through 40060):
Re: HTML mail considered harmful
40004 by: Duncan Watson
40005 by: Chris Green
40012 by: Russell Nelson
40017 by: Bruno Wolff III
40021 by: Kai MacTane
40025 by: Russell Nelson
40027 by: Ronny Haryanto
40034 by: Alex
40036 by: Kai MacTane
40053 by: rogers-qmail.h0050da615e79.ne.mediaone.net
40056 by: Peter van Dijk
40057 by: Peter van Dijk
40058 by: Andy Bradford
Re: ucspi-tcp
40006 by: Carlos Gustavo Werner
Re: pre-filtering mail before delivery
40007 by: Dave Sill
SHADOW + QMAIL
40008 by: Hemanta Sharma
AOL rejects mail
40009 by: rkacker.mbhs.edu
40013 by: Greg Owen
40014 by: markd.bushwire.net
40015 by: Soffen, Matthew
40016 by: Russell Nelson
dans web site at cr.yp.to
40010 by: Martin Randall
40011 by: Martin Randall
Re: Impact on qmail of no $TCPREMOTEINFO / IDENT ?
40018 by: Dave Kitabjian
APOP for qmail_popup/qmail_pop3d
40019 by: John Coy
40022 by: Magnus Bodin
Re: newbie help
40020 by: Steve Peace
40024 by: Steve Wolfe
40026 by: Charles Cazabon
40028 by: Steve Wolfe
40035 by: Charles Cazabon
VirtualDomains
40023 by: Henrique Pais
40045 by: Chris Johnson
40060 by: Henrique Pais
Bounce handling--VERP
40029 by: Brad Johnson
Re: mail bombardement :(
40030 by: Irwan Hadi
40031 by: Ronny Haryanto
Logfile analyzer for Qmail
40032 by: Steve Scoggins
40033 by: Charles Cazabon
simple question
40037 by: john smith
40040 by: Irwan Hadi
40052 by: rogers-qmail.h0050da615e79.ne.mediaone.net
Blocking mail from a single address?
40038 by: Bill Parker
Two email addresses and the rest to a virtual domain
40039 by: Matthew Harrell
40041 by: Chris Johnson
40042 by: Russell Nelson
Sender domain must resolve error for some sites...
40043 by: Anthony White
40044 by: Chris Johnson
40047 by: Anthony White
what's wrong here ?
40046 by: Ismal Hisham Darus
Intelligent POP3 Server
40048 by: Gary Barnden
40049 by: Russell Nelson
40051 by: Jacob Joseph
Messages being "lost"
40050 by: Jacob Joseph
delivery speed very slow
40054 by: Vincent Danen
nevermind: was qmail slow (or something like that)
40055 by: Vincent Danen
Editing .qmail aliases for people without shell access
40059 by: John P. Looney
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On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 08:51:06AM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > On Wed, Apr 12, 2000 at 02:05:11PM -0600, Scott D. Yelich wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > > > > (1) I complained about a guy's 17 line signature that could > > be compressed down to 4 lines... he complained about my 9 > > line PGP signature. clue. > > > Well I have to admit I have some sympathy with him there, I'd much > prefer that people *didn't* post PGP signed messages where it isn't > necessary. It's just extra noise that has to be filtered out by some > means or other. Why should I have to set up my MUA to handle > something that isn't necessary for me - it's similar to HTML in many > ways. I disagree. PGP signed messages provide a defense against forgeries. Reputation is your currency on the net and PGP signing helps you defend against it. Differences of PGP signing as compared to HTML Mails 1. No work is necessary to read the base message with any MUA. 2. PGP does not aid spammers in tracking their mail databases. 3. PGP in mail messages is defined in a variety of RFCs. 4. Filtering out of PGP signatures is relatively easy, procmail scripts are available. 5. There is measureable benefits for both sender and recipient assuming both are interested in the contents of the message. 6. No security holes are created by using PGP signing in sending of messages 7. No security holes are exposed by reading PGP signed messages. /Duncan -- Duncan Watson nCube
On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 10:04:36AM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 09:42:10AM +0100, > > > > Horses for courses, PGP has its place but not on mailing lists for > > example. > > I disagree. It can be important to establish you always sign messages to > lend credibility for when you want to deny posting/sending some message. > > PGP signed messages will generally have less extra stuff, than the multipart > alternative messages typically used for html. > > However it would be nice if people used the rfc 2015 standard when using it, > so that MIME aware readers could hide the signature. Yes, OK, I'll go for that! If I don't see the extra junk I'm not to fussed about it as it doesn't use much bandwidth. As it is the PGP stuff just annoys me at about the same level as excessive sigs do, somewhat but not enough to really scream about. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Petr Novotny writes: > On 12 Apr 00, at 15:52, Russell Nelson wrote: > > > Yes. Bounce html-only email. Strip the html fork from > > multipart/alternative email. > > Does anyone have such a code and is willing to share it? Yes, anyone has such code. It's now at http://www.qmail.org/no-alternative. -- -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | "Ask not what your country 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | can force other people to Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | do for you..." -Perry M.
On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 09:42:10AM +0100, > > Horses for courses, PGP has its place but not on mailing lists for > example. I disagree. It can be important to establish you always sign messages to lend credibility for when you want to deny posting/sending some message. PGP signed messages will generally have less extra stuff, than the multipart alternative messages typically used for html. However it would be nice if people used the rfc 2015 standard when using it, so that MIME aware readers could hide the signature.
At 4/13/2000 10:28 AM -0400, Russell Nelson wrote or quoted: >Yes, anyone has such code. It's now at http://www.qmail.org/no-alternative. This looks pretty cool, but it would be even cooler if it could be set to generate a bounce message to the sender, telling them that this email address doesn't accept HTML mail. I realize you're a busy man, so consider this just a suggestion for future expansion when you have time (or a feature request), along with thanks for taking the time to write this in the first place. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Kai MacTane System Administrator Online Partners.com, Inc. ----------------------------------------------------------------- From the Jargon File: (v4.0.0, 25 Jul 1996) finger trouble /n./ Mistyping, typos, or generalized keyboard incompetence (this is surprisingly common among hackers, given the amount of time they spend at keyboards). "I keep putting colons at the end of statements instead of semicolons", "Finger trouble again, eh?".
Title: Re: HTML mail considered harmfulKai MacTane writes: > At 4/13/2000 10:28 AM -0400, Russell Nelson wrote or quoted: > > >Yes, anyone has such code. It's now at http://www.qmail.org/no-alternative. > > This looks pretty cool, but it would be even cooler if it could be set to > generate a bounce message to the sender, telling them that this email > address doesn't accept HTML mail.Why bother? If they provide a text fork, then they're saying that either alternative has the full information. Why pester them to not send a text/html part in addition? My code doesn't deal with the case of Content-Type: text/html as the only part. You could easily modify it to bounce such mail though. I can't say I've ever received text/html-only mail. -- -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | "Ask not what your country 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | can force other people to Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | do for you..." -Perry M.
On 13-Apr-2000, Kai MacTane wrote: > At 4/13/2000 10:28 AM -0400, Russell Nelson wrote or quoted: > >Yes, anyone has such code. It's now at http://www.qmail.org/no-alternative. > This looks pretty cool, but it would be even cooler if it could be set to > generate a bounce message to the sender, telling them that this email > address doesn't accept HTML mail. FYI, ezmlm (ezmlm-idx?) can reject messages whose MIME type is listed in a pre-defined list, if you're interested to see how it does it. Actually, I'm thinking something like this in .qmail would work, wouldn't it? | if [ formail -xz "Content-Type:" |grep -iq "multipart/alternative" ] \ ; then echo "Sorry this mailbox does not accept messages of \ MIME-type 'multipart/alternative'"; exit 100; else exit 0; fi ./Maildir/ Otherwise, maybe procmail is our best friend. Ronny
>I can't say I've ever received text/html-only mail. I have. It was javascripted spam, with the text encrypted and decoded by the javascript, presumably so that content analysers could not recognise the email as spam. This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. For further information visit- http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp
At 4/13/2000 03:35 PM -0400, Russell Nelson wrote or quoted: >Why bother? If they provide a text fork, then they're saying that >either alternative has the full information. Why pester them to not >send a text/html part in addition? Because I'd like to discourage people from sending mails that contain the same information twice over. It really tweaks my "waste of bandwidth" sensors -- if all the text is there, then why increase the message size by roughly 150% (sometimes more) by sending all that text again, plus HTML tags? However, since that seems to be my personal itch rather than yours, I suppose I'll have to modify the script myself, if I ever get around to it. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Kai MacTane System Administrator Online Partners.com, Inc. ----------------------------------------------------------------- From the Jargon File: (v4.0.0, 25 Jul 1996) finger trouble /n./ Mistyping, typos, or generalized keyboard incompetence (this is surprisingly common among hackers, given the amount of time they spend at keyboards). "I keep putting colons at the end of statements instead of semicolons", "Finger trouble again, eh?".
From: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 15:35:45 -0400 (EDT) My code doesn't deal with the case of Content-Type: text/html as the only part. You could easily modify it to bounce such mail though. I can't say I've ever received text/html-only mail. I'm surprised; I get these all the time. The world appears to be full of Netscape users with Communicator set to stun . . . -- Bob Rogers
On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 10:28:02AM -0400, Russell Nelson wrote: > Petr Novotny writes: > > On 12 Apr 00, at 15:52, Russell Nelson wrote: > > > > > Yes. Bounce html-only email. Strip the html fork from > > > multipart/alternative email. > > > > Does anyone have such a code and is willing to share it? > > Yes, anyone has such code. It's now at http://www.qmail.org/no-alternative. Somehow I really like the name of that script :) Greetz, Peter. -- Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder | | 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; | C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.' | Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++
On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 03:35:45PM -0400, Russell Nelson wrote: WTF? Why is this mail in text/html only? Is this some kind of sick joke? Greetz, Peter. -- Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder | | 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; | C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.' | Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++
Thus said Peter van Dijk on Fri, 14 Apr 2000 08:58:27 +0200: > WTF? > > Why is this mail in text/html only? Is this some kind of sick joke? I believe so... it is because he wrapped his entire message in HTML tags... not necessarily HTML, but it was definitely an HTML only email without a corresponding text/plain part. I think he must have been joking. :-) Andy -- +====== Andy ====== TiK: garbaglio ======+ | Linux is about freedom of choice | +== http://www.xmission.com/~bradipo/ ===+
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Title: RE: ucspi-tcp
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"Phil Howard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I would like to pre-filter mail before delivery. Since I want to do this >both for mail to be locally delivered as well as mail to be relayed, it >would seem I need to do that at qmail-send or earlier. I could live with >locally originated mail not being filtered, so qmail-smtpd is not out of >the question. I just don't know which would be the best place. Take a look at: http://www.faqts.com/knowledge-base/view.phtml/aid/2142/fid/203/lang/en which outlines a generic message processing configuration. -Dave
Hi all, How do I make qmail work with my shadowded password file?? I already have a working file but whenever i shadow the password file, it give me authentication faliure message. Pls help Thanks in advance!! Hemanta Sharma
Hello. We people at mbhs.edu just changed our ISP. We updated all out nameservers for the new MX IP,and mail seems to be working for certain sites, but not all. AOL, erols, compuserve seem to be rejecting our mail. I'm not certain what is wrong./ Has anyone had this type of problem before? Thanks, Ravi
> We people at mbhs.edu just changed our ISP. We updated all > out nameservers for the new MX IP,and mail seems to be > working for certain sites, but not all. AOL, erols, > compuserve seem to be rejecting our mail. I'm not certain > what is wrong./ Can you show us a bounce message or some lines from your logs which list AOL's response? -- gowen -- Greg Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 01:35:51PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello. > > We people at mbhs.edu just changed our ISP. We updated all out nameservers for the >new MX IP,and mail seems to be working for certain sites, but not all. AOL, erols, >compuserve seem to be rejecting our mail. I'm not certain what is wrong./ > Has anyone had this type of problem before? Your DNS looks ok, maybe they are slow to notice DNS changes. Are they delays or bounces? Regards.
AOL Ignores Time To Live fields in DNS.. It can/will take them up to a week to see DNS changes.. Matt Soffen Web Intranet Developer http://www.iso-ne.com/ ============================================== Boss - "My boss says we need some eunuch programmers." Dilbert - "I think he means UNIX and I already know UNIX." Boss - "Well, if the company nurse comes by, tell her I said never mind." - Dilbert - ============================================== > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 2:55 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: AOL rejects mail > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 01:35:51PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hello. > > > > We people at mbhs.edu just changed our ISP. We updated all out > nameservers for the new MX IP,and mail seems to be working for certain > sites, but not all. AOL, erols, compuserve seem to be rejecting our mail. > I'm not certain what is wrong./ > > Has anyone had this type of problem before? > > Your DNS looks ok, maybe they are slow to notice DNS changes. Are they > delays > or bounces? > > > Regards.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Hello. > > We people at mbhs.edu just changed our ISP. We updated all out > nameservers for the new MX IP,and mail seems to be working for > certain sites, but not all. AOL, erols, compuserve seem to be > rejecting our mail. I'm not certain what is wrong./ Has anyone had > this type of problem before? I can't speak for the others, but I know for sure that AOL checks for an MX or A record on the hostname of the envelope sender. Given that you just changed that information, I'd expect that AOL just has the wrong information cached. I'll bet this problem will go away in a matter of hours. -- -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | "Ask not what your country 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | can force other people to Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | do for you..." -Perry M.
Hello. The site is back now although I haven't received the original mail yet. Perhap's the were down ? Martin ------------------------------- I wanted to look at Dan's web pages linking from the qmail.org site. I get nothing back from clicking on the links. Tried with two ISP's. It was working last week. What's going on ? Regards...Martin -- --------------- (A)bort, (R)etry, (F)ail? Microsoft ---------------------------------- Regards...Martin -- --------------- An English judge, growing weary of the barrister's long-winded summation, leaned over the bench and remarked, "I've heard your arguments, Sir Geoffrey, and I'm none the wiser!" Sir Geoffrey responded, "That may be, Milord, but at least you're better informed!"
Hello. I wanted to look at Dan's web pages linking from the qmail.org site. I get nothing back from clicking on the links. Tried with two ISP's. It was working last week. What's going on ? Regards...Martin -- --------------- (A)bort, (R)etry, (F)ail? Microsoft
Thanks for the info. >Why don't you try it - it's very easy to do. I know it's easy to do. Actually, we've had the -R flag on tcpserver for a couple of months now. And I haven't *observed* any negative side effects. But qmail is a complex system, so there could be side effects going on that I wouldn't be aware of. So I'm simply trying to draw on the "eyes and ears" of this bright, happy community of qmail listers to see if they have any useful insight. As the proverb says, "Plans fail for lack of counsel, but with many advisers they succeed." If informed people tell me it's not an issue, I'm a happy camper and we'll go with it! (Of course if nobody says anything, then we might go with it anyway :) Dave
I've honestly spent quite a bit of time searching the web and the mailing list archive for hints on getting APOP to work with the qmail_popup+qmail_pop3d+ checkpassword programs. I've seen references for a "checkpw" program which replaces checkpassword, but all the links for it are broken. Does anyone know of a place to download this program? Other than that, I've seen entries in the README files about APOP hooks, and I've even looked at the qmail_popup.c source to see if it's implemented. The hook is there... but something in my implementation isn't working. I was wondering if anyone had any hints on getting APOP to work? I'd like to use both POP logins and APOP logins, if possible. Thanks in advance! John
On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 02:05:27PM -0500, John Coy wrote: > I've honestly spent quite a bit of time searching > the web and the mailing list archive for hints > on getting APOP to work with the qmail_popup+qmail_pop3d+ > checkpassword programs. I've seen references for > a "checkpw" program which replaces checkpassword, but > all the links for it are broken. Does anyone know of > a place to download this program? > > Other than that, I've seen entries in the README files about > APOP hooks, and I've even looked at the qmail_popup.c source > to see if it's implemented. The hook is there... but > something in my implementation isn't working. > > I was wondering if anyone had any hints on getting > APOP to work? I'd like to use both POP logins > and APOP logins, if possible. Shinya Ohira wrote a checkpw which allows both POP and APOP authentication. The link on www.qmail.org gives 404. You can however find a copy here: http://x42.com/qmail/contrib/ and a patch to this package that should be applied: It fixes a little security lapsus leaving the real password in clear text in server memory if the authentification fails. Here it is: http://x42.com/qmail/patches/checkapoppw.diff cheers, magnus -- "Security is not about addons. It is about trusting the base of the system, all the way down to 8 line functions in libc or the kernel." -- Theo de Raadt
Try reading "Life with Qmail" it can be found at http://web.infave.net/~dsill/lwq.html Steve P. ----- Original Message ----- From: "john smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 6:35 PM Subject: newbie help > hello, > > I have read the HOWTO and miniHOWTO and the usr/doc about configuring > qmail and I am still at a loss. I am having a hard time following it.I have > researched about other mta's and from what I have come up with is that qmail > is supposed to be the easiest to configure. I would like to learn more about > qmail. What I have is just one machine connected to an ISP using dynamic IP > address. Can someone please lend a newbie a hand in accomplishing this > (simple instructions/explanations would be nice to get it up and running). > preferably in layman's terms please. I am very new to this. > > Thank you. > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >
> Try reading "Life with Qmail" it can be found at > http://web.infave.net/~dsill/lwq.html It might help if the domain existed according to the root name servers... why is it that so many of the Qmail-related sites are so often inaccessable? I've never seen such a wildly succesfull program where so many of the support sites were so inaccessable. : ) steve ---------------------- [steve@local steve]$ nslookup Default Server: local.iboats.com Address: 209.90.117.130 > server a.root-servers.net Default Server: a.root-servers.net Address: 198.41.0.4 > infave.net. Server: a.root-servers.net Address: 198.41.0.4 *** a.root-servers.net can't find infave.net.: Non-existent host/domain > server b.root-servers.net Default Server: b.root-servers.net Address: 128.9.0.107 > infave.net. Server: b.root-servers.net Address: 128.9.0.107 *** b.root-servers.net can't find infave.net.: No response from server
Steve Wolfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Try reading "Life with Qmail" it can be found at > > http://web.infave.net/~dsill/lwq.html > > > It might help if the domain existed according to the root name servers... > why is it that so many of the Qmail-related sites are so often > inaccessable? I've never seen such a wildly succesfull program where so > many of the support sites were so inaccessable. : ) That was obviously a typo. It's infoave.net. Charles -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > It might help if the domain existed according to the root name servers... > > why is it that so many of the Qmail-related sites are so often > > inaccessable? I've never seen such a wildly succesfull program where so > > many of the support sites were so inaccessable. : ) > > That was obviously a typo. It's infoave.net. Doh! I guess that I was overly sensitive. This morning I was trying to look up some qmail-related stuff, and a good number of the sites referenced from www.qmail.org were not functioning, so I was probably still feeling the after-effects.... steve
S.P. Hoeke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you have a POP account with your ISP, you need something like fetchmail to > get your POP mail from your ISP and deliver it to your qmail SMTP service, wich > in turn can deliver it locally (ie to your un*x user account) Well, not "need". My POP3 retriever, getmail, does local deliveries directly, instead of by re-injecting with SMTP. I'm also told fetchmail can do a similar thing. Charles -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi, I have a problem with the virtualdomains, in an email like [EMAIL PROTECTED] the user part cannot be grather than 12 char. if so the qmail.lspawn will crash help please --------------------------------------------- Henrique Pais HLC Telecomunica�oes e Multimedia, SA Tel. : 424 40 40 Fax : 424 40 01 Date: 13-Apr-00 Time: 20:23:50 --------------------------------------------- Visite a Comunidade Lusoweb em www.lusoweb.pt
On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 08:32:10PM +0100, Henrique Pais wrote: > in an email like [EMAIL PROTECTED] the user part cannot be grather than 12 > char. > > if so the qmail.lspawn will crash Says who? It works fine here. Are you running a patched version of qmail? Chris
On 14-Apr-00 Chris Johnson wrote: > Says who? It works fine here. Are you running a patched version of qmail? > > Chris I have in my virtualdomain file, the following line virtualdomain.pt:info.virtualdomain I running qmail-1.03 with the checkpassword-0.76 for mysql auth. thanxs --------------------------------------------- Henrique Pais HLC Telecomunica�oes e Multimedia, SA Tel. : 424 40 40 Fax : 424 40 01 Date: 14-Apr-00 Time: 10:11:42 --------------------------------------------- Visite a Comunidade Lusoweb em www.lusoweb.pt
What's the best way to build a bounce-handling capability in coordination with qmail? What are the proper source files to look at in ezmlm to discover how it does it? The qmail-ezmlm bounce picture would be helpful, something in higher detail than "ezmlm uses qmail's VERPs to send a bounce-probe and unsubscribe" I'm not necessarily interested in using ezmlm, but I'll also ask this question on the ezmlm list. Brad Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>just a simple .qmail-black-list or something like that?!?!? echo 'user@domain' >> /var/qmail/badmailfrom after that run kill -HUP qmail-smtpd to make your new "configuration" work or just do . /etc/rc.d/init.d/qmail restart ------- AFLHI 058009990407128029/089802---(102598//991024)
On 13-Apr-2000, Irwan Hadi wrote: > >just a simple .qmail-black-list or something like that?!?!? > > echo 'user@domain' >> /var/qmail/badmailfrom Did you mean /var/qmail/control/badmailfrom ? > after that run kill -HUP qmail-smtpd to make your new > "configuration" work That shouldn't be necessary. AFAIK, qmail-smtpd is spawned everytime it accepts a new connection. > or just do > . /etc/rc.d/init.d/qmail restart That's way overkill. Ronny
Steve Scoggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does anyone know of a good logfile analyzer for Qmail? Yes, qmail-analog, by the same author. Look at www.qmail.org, or cr.yp.to for pointers. Charles -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
hi, I am trying to follow the advices given to me to read life with qmail. I have successfully reached the building process. so far so good. now my question is about ./config . how should I configure my dns? I don't think I have a domain. I only have a hostname. Do I use my ISP's domain name? i.e. ./config-fast mycomputer or hostname.earthlink.com? would that work? or I can just name my domain anything?.will that affect the way I send messages to the internet? what I have is just one machine and I would like it to be able to send (via qmail) and receive email (maybe via fetchmail) to and from the internet using preferably qmail and perhaps mutt or pine. thank you. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
At 22:36 13/04/2000 +0000, john smith wrote: >hi, > I am trying to follow the advices given to me to read life with qmail. I >have successfully reached the building process. so far so good. now my >question is about ./config . how should I configure my dns? I don't think I >have a domain. I only have a hostname. Do I use my ISP's domain name? i.e. >./config-fast mycomputer or hostname.earthlink.com? would that work? or I >can just name my domain anything?.will that affect the way I send messages >to the internet? what I have is just one machine and I would like it to be >able to send (via qmail) and receive email (maybe via fetchmail) to and from >the internet using preferably qmail and perhaps mutt or pine. It seems that you installed qmail at a dial up machine. If you want qmail to serve only outbond email *and* you are a dial up user, you don't have to think about the DNS. Just make ./config domain.bogus after that, the config program will create 4 files in /var/qmail/control/ there are, local, me, rcpthosts and [the one I forgot] If you do not want to run qmail under tcpserver and still want to run it from inetd, because you are using qmail just on a dial up machine, you could then just delete the rcpthosts file, although it would make qmail open relay. Then you have to install serialmail which you can get at http://cr.yp.to/qmail.html Or, if your dial up connection is on almost everyday, just add smtproutes at /var/qmail/control . Fill smtproutes with your SMTP of your provider. ------- AFLHI 058009990407128029/089802---(102598//991024)
From: Irwan Hadi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 13:07:20 -0700 At 22:36 13/04/2000 +0000, john smith wrote: >hi, > I am trying to follow the advices given to me to read life with qmail. I >have successfully reached the building process. so far so good. now my >question is about ./config . how should I configure my dns? . . . It seems that you installed qmail at a dial up machine. If you want qmail to serve only outbond email *and* you are a dial up user, you don't have to think about the DNS . . . See also the thread titled "Is qmail suitable for a home user?", on 4-5 April. -- Bob Rogers
Hi all, I'm running qmail v1.03 and vpopmail, would like to know how to block mail from a certain user who has become a pest bombarding our mail server with stupid advertisements, etc...Is this somewhere in the docs (I vaguely remember something about badmailfrom, but will it work with vpopmail)? -Bill
Hi, I would like [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] to be delivered normally but all other @foo.bar mail to go to one address - let's say [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can I use a virtualdomain entry for this? I'm hesitant to just try it since this is an operating system and I don't want to lose any email. -- Matthew Harrell You're just jealous because the Bit Twiddlers, Inc. voices only talk to me. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 07:51:06PM -0400, Matthew Harrell wrote: > I would like [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] to be delivered normally but all > other @foo.bar mail to go to one address - let's say [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can I use > a virtualdomain entry for this? I'm hesitant to just try it since this is an > operating system and I don't want to lose any email. echo foo.bar:alias-foobar >> /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains echo '&joe' > ~alias/.qmail-foobar-joe echo '&fred' > ~alias/.qmail-foobar-fred echo '&john' > ~alias/.qmail-foobar-default Chris
Matthew Harrell writes: > > Hi, > I would like [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] to be delivered normally > but all other @foo.bar mail to go to one address - let's say [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Can I use a virtualdomain entry for this? I'm hesitant to just try it since > this is an operating system and I don't want to lose any email. Yes. echo 'foo.bar:foo.bar' >>/var/qmail/control/virtualdomains echo 'joe' > ~alias/.qmail-foo:bar-joe echo 'fred' > ~alias/.qmail-foo:bar-fred echo 'john' > ~alias/.qmail-foo:bar-default did you really mean to create an infinite loop, where [EMAIL PROTECTED] gets forwarded to [EMAIL PROTECTED]? I assume that you mean john@`cat /var/qmail/control/defaulthost`. -- -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | "Ask not what your country 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | can force other people to Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | do for you..." -Perry M.
Hi there, I have a very specific problem sending mail to certain domains that do reverse verification of mail. They come up with From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Error, sender domain must resolve... delivery deferred... I have set up qmail so it masquerades all mail to come from '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' My settings: ============ '/var/qmail/control/defaultdomain' contains 'movielink.net.au' '/var/qmail/control/defaulthost' contains 'movielink.net.au' '/var/qmail/control/me' contains 'mail.movielink.net.au' '/var/qmail/control/plusdomain' contains 'net.au' '/var/qmail/control/locals' contains 'mail.movielink.net.au' 'movielink.net.au' 'localhost.movielink.net.au' '/var/qmail/control/hosts' contains 'mail.movielink.net.au' 'movielink.net.au' 'localhost.movielink.net.au' ====================== I guess that the 'From:' field should contain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> instead of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to make reverse lookup work. Is that done in '/var/qmail/control/defaulthost' ? Best regards Anthony
On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 10:26:17AM -0700, Anthony White wrote: > Hi there, > > I have a very specific problem sending mail to certain domains that > do reverse verification of mail. They come up with > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Error, sender domain must resolve... > delivery deferred... Your name servers appear to be broken: $ dnsmx movielink.net.au dnsmx: fatal: unable to find MX records for movielink.net.au: temporary failure Chris
Chris Johnson wrote: > > Your name servers appear to be broken: There is no record pointing to the domain itself. It points to 'mail.movielink.net.au' All our incomming mail comes via one IP into a firewall, gets port forwarded to the mailserver and is processed. We have no problems receiving mail. All mail sent is shown to come from 'mail.movielink.net.au' with the IP of the firewall. That IP currently resolves to 'mail.movielink.net.au' which does not match with <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and the error 451 is sent back to us. Should I have that IP reverse lookup to resolve to 'movielink.net.au' instead? > > $ dnsmx movielink.net.au > dnsmx: fatal: unable to find MX records for movielink.net.au: temporary failure > > Chris
I keep getting this broken email from this particular site. Actually the mail coming with attachment but somehow it was broken while reaching my site. I ask the sender to send it to my hotmail account and it was ok. The attachment can be viewed properly. Could it be the Lotus Notes problem ? or some of my configuration is not properly configured ? by the way when i view the header i can see the From : only without time stamping or subject : or to : thanks. ====================================================================== From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Received: from seagull.jp.socgen.com (seagull [202.10.10.218]) by uucp-int.jp.socgen.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA21967 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:14:30 +0900 (JST) Received: from seagull.jp.socgen.com (seagull [202.10.10.218]) by uucp-int.jp.socgen.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA21967 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:14:30 +0900 (JST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by seagull.jp.socgen.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA12247 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:12:09 +0900 (JST) Received: from gatok010.tk.jp.world.socgen(202.20.8.168) by seagull via smap (V2.1) id xmaa12213; Thu, 13 Apr 00 16:12:02 +0900 Received: by gatok010.jp.socgen.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (778.2 1-4-1999)) id 492568C0.00278A13 ; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:11:52 +0900 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SOCGEN To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 15:12:58 +0800 Subject: SG Spotlight Test Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=l7rQvdr7hjQm5RRUH9A5euSpt7qFdS8Qn6tqXfUivEm4cd3NIq3yx1pT " --0__=l7rQvdr7hjQm5RRUH9A5euSpt7qFdS8Qn6tqXfUivEm4cd3NIq3yx1pT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline (See attached file: 0413banking.doc) --0__=l7rQvdr7hjQm5RRUH9A5euSpt7qFdS8Qn6tqXfUivEm4cd3NIq3yx1pT Content-type: application/msword; name="0413banking.doc" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="0413banking.doc" Content-transfer-encoding: base64 Content-Description: Mac Word 3.0 0M8R4KGxGuEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPgADAP7/CQAGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABAAAAYgAAAA EAAAZAAAAAEAAAD+////AAAAAGEAAAD/////////////////////////////////////// ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// pcEAWQAJBAAACBK/AAAAAAAAEAAAAAAABAAAkScAAA4AYmpiavNX81cAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAJBBYANVoAAJE9AQCRPQEA3CIAAAAAAAC0AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD//w AAAAAAD//w8AAAAAAAAAAAD//w8AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAF0AAAAAAP4MAAAAAAAA/g AAAAAAAA/gwAAAAAAAD+DAAAAAAAAP4MAAAAAAAA/gwAABQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEINAAAAAA AAAAAABCDQAAAAAAAEINAAA4AAAAeg0AACQAAACeDQAAdAAAAEINAAAAAAAAaiQAAGgBAA cAAAAJ4OAACmAAAARA8AAAAAAABEDwAAAAAAAEQPAAAAAAAAHxAAAGQBAACDEQAAbAAAAO AAAA5SEAAAIAAADnIQAAAAAAAOchAAAAAAAA5yEAADIAAAAZIgAADAEAACUjAAAMAQAAMS AADSJQAA9AEAAMYnAADIAAAAVSQAABUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA/gwAAAAAAAAnEg ------- End of forwarded message ------- Ismal Hisham Mohd Darus Asst. Manager, System Support John Hancock Life Insurance (Malaysia) Berhad
Hello all, I have a bit of a curly one and was wondering if anyone had done the same thing and could point me in the right direction I need some sort of Intelligent POP3 Server that does this 1. User logs in and is authenticated 2. POP3 Server checks username against a database of Bulletins he/she has received to check if he/she is up to date on weekly the bulletins 3. Sends new Bulletins if waiting 4. POP3 Server then falls back to checking for normal Maildir mail I've seen the one on the qmail site, but from what i can tell it doesn't keep a history, i need to be able to report to the customer about who has received the bulletin so that follow up can be done. Thanks in advance. Kind regards Gary Barnden _______________________________________ Braenet Pty Ltd Corporate Internet Solutions A "Cisco Enabled Regional ISP" 1/59-61 Burrows Road Alexandria NSW 2015 Ph: 1300-368-081 Fax: (02) 9565-1848 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Enquiries: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.braenet.com.au
Gary Barnden writes: > I have a bit of a curly one and was wondering if anyone had done the same > thing and could point me in the right direction > > I need some sort of Intelligent POP3 Server that does this > > 1. User logs in and is authenticated > 2. POP3 Server checks username against a database of Bulletins he/she has > received to check if he/she is up to date on weekly the bulletins > 3. Sends new Bulletins if waiting > 4. POP3 Server then falls back to checking for normal Maildir mail > > I've seen the one on the qmail site, but from what i can tell it doesn't > keep a history, i need to be able to report to the customer about who has > received the bulletin so that follow up can be done. No, it doesn't keep a history. However, you could modify it to print a log message to stderr when it links in a bulletin. -- -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | "Ask not what your country 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | can force other people to Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | do for you..." -Perry M.
Would sending such bulletins to all users be unacceptable? What benefit would there be from doing otherwise? Jacob Joseph ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 8:26 PM Subject: Re: Intelligent POP3 Server > Gary Barnden writes: > > I have a bit of a curly one and was wondering if anyone had done the same > > thing and could point me in the right direction > > > > I need some sort of Intelligent POP3 Server that does this > > > > 1. User logs in and is authenticated > > 2. POP3 Server checks username against a database of Bulletins he/she has > > received to check if he/she is up to date on weekly the bulletins > > 3. Sends new Bulletins if waiting > > 4. POP3 Server then falls back to checking for normal Maildir mail > > > > I've seen the one on the qmail site, but from what i can tell it doesn't > > keep a history, i need to be able to report to the customer about who has > > received the bulletin so that follow up can be done. > > No, it doesn't keep a history. However, you could modify it to print > a log message to stderr when it links in a bulletin. > > -- > -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://russnelson.com > Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | "Ask not what your country > 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | can force other people to > Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | do for you..." -Perry M. > >
Hello everyone. I was having some troubles with all the messages recieved being dated only one date(rather than when they acutally arrived)--but reinstalling qmail-smtpd fixed that. I'm not sure what the problem was, so if someone could offer some insite, I'd appreciate it. Other than that, I'm having some problems with messages being "lost." I've got my linux machine(this is all at my home) running fetchmail, qmail, samba...the necessities... and I'm using imap from my windows machine to read my mail. That way, I don't need to send and recieve from the windows machine if I've got my mail program open. The messages pop up within a minute of being recieved(after fetchmail sends them to qmail). My problem is that, every once and while, I click on a message to download it from the server, but it "doesn't exist" and I can't read it. The thing stays in my Maildir(so I can read it with a text editor), but something wierd is going on here for them not being available to my mail program(MS OE5)... Message size seems to have nothing to do with it...I can't think of anything else at the moment. I'm running imap-4.5-3mdir4 from ftp://summersoft.fay.ar.us/pub/qmail/qmail-imap/ and qmail 1.03+patches. Imap is running from inetd while the rest are using tcpserver. Does anyone have any suggestions? Jacob Joseph
Hi there. Is there a way to increase qmail's delivery speed? I've had a message sitting in the /var/qmail/queue/mess directory tree for over 15 minutes. There is the appropriate files in the /var/qmail/queue/todo. It's currently 12:21am and the earliest file sitting in that directory is from 11:57pm, almost 25 minutes old! I would like qmail to process mail a little faster than this. Preferably, if I could have it deliver mail within a minute of receipt of it (or faster) that would be ideal. All of these messages are for local users to the system, so I don't understand why qmail wants to hang on to them for so long? Thanks. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], OpenPGP key available on www.keyserver.net Freezer Burn BBS: telnet://bbs.freezer-burn.org . ICQ: 54924721 Webmaster for the Linux Portal Site Freezer Burn: http://www.freezer-burn.org
Nevermind... I just read on Life with Qmail about the permissions on the trigger file... wasn't set to world writeable. Now it moves nice and fast. =) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], OpenPGP key available on www.keyserver.net Freezer Burn BBS: telnet://bbs.freezer-burn.org . ICQ: 54924721 Webmaster for the Linux Portal Site Freezer Burn: http://www.freezer-burn.org
Hi, I run an IMP webmail system, that's got a qmail/Courier IMAP backend. We would like our users to put .qmail alias files in their own accounts, so they could have multiple email addresses, using the username-ext@host format - but we can't let them make them, themselves. Has anyone written something along the lines of poppasswdd for doing this? We have web servers on different machines to the mail servers, for obvious reasons, so the webserver can't directly access the mail filesystem. I've also been looking at integrating ezmlm into users web pages, but that looks simpler, seeing as I can make a webpage to generate an email, and send that to the user-list-owner address, so perhaps an email front end to ezmlm would be sufficent also. Kate -- "The fool must be beaten with a stick, for an intelligent person the merest hint is sufficient" -- Zen Master Greg
