qmail Digest 8 Apr 2000 10:00:01 -0000 Issue 965

Topics (messages 39713 through 39767):

qmail-remote processes
        39713 by: Ricardo D. Albano
        39714 by: Uwe Ohse

Re: domain name with dash
        39715 by: Dave Sill

Doubts: qmail and IMAP
        39716 by: Gilberto Rodrigues
        39717 by: Russell P. Sutherland
        39718 by: Dave Sill

Strange Problems whith starting qmail
        39719 by: root
        39745 by: Dave Sill

locking out mail accounts ...
        39720 by: Shaun Gibson
        39726 by: rogers-qmail.h0050da615e79.ne.mediaone.net
        39738 by: Aaron L. Meehan
        39739 by: Aled Treharne
        39742 by: Aaron L. Meehan
        39765 by: Robert Sanderson

Yahoo still down?
        39721 by: Bill Luckett
        39722 by: octave klaba
        39723 by: Bryan White

Re: funny
        39724 by: Mate Wierdl
        39727 by: Adam McKenna
        39728 by: Chris Garrigues

Re: Understanding "To" and "From"
        39725 by: Dave Kitabjian
        39748 by: Dave Sill

qmail initiating identd lookups?
        39729 by: brianb-qmail.technet.evoserve.com
        39732 by: Charles Cazabon
        39734 by: Bruno Wolff III

Local mail for virtual domains
        39730 by: Jay Moore
        39731 by: Russell P. Sutherland

Re: HELO in
        39733 by: Markus Stumpf

Vapormail (was: Re: Problem: 552 max. message size exceeded)
        39735 by: Aaron L. Meehan
        39736 by: Soffen, Matthew
        39741 by: Dave Sill

Unable to configure IMAP client
        39737 by: Gilberto Rodrigues
        39744 by: Dave Sill

new qmail install, man page question
        39740 by: John W. Lemons III
        39743 by: Magnus Bodin

Re: qmail-remote don't lunch
        39746 by: Dave Sill

Re: qmail-smtpd/message parsing
        39747 by: Dave Sill
        39749 by: Dave Sill

Re: Relay allow
        39750 by: Rogerio Brito

Off Topic: call a perl script
        39751 by: Carlo Gibertini
        39752 by: Jedi/Sector One
        39753 by: Jedi/Sector One

Re: more qmail-remote
        39754 by: Irwan Hadi

Re: qmailqueue patch?
        39755 by: Irwan Hadi

Re: VPOPMAIL
        39756 by: Irwan Hadi

Sorry, no mailbox (unusual)
        39757 by: Kins Orekhov

quick question (qmail-1.03)
        39758 by: Keith Warno
        39762 by: Charles Cazabon

quick answer (qmail-1.03)
        39759 by: Harald Hanche-Olsen

Is any thing wrong with this page
        39760 by: bigkapusta.kapusta.com
        39761 by: Charles Cazabon
        39763 by: bigkapusta.kapusta.com
        39764 by: bigkapusta.kapusta.com

problems with mercur/wsendmail/qmail
        39766 by: Dale Anderson
        39767 by: Uwe Ohse

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I can't set my qmail server to maximize the number of simultaneous
qmail-remote procs. I can't get more than 20 simul. procs., I was created
the file /var/qmail/control/concurrencyremote   with the value 60.

What's wrong ?

RDA.-





On Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 07:06:39PM -0300, Ricardo D. Albano wrote:
> I can't set my qmail server to maximize the number of simultaneous
> qmail-remote procs. I can't get more than 20 simul. procs., I was created
> the file /var/qmail/control/concurrencyremote   with the value 60.

you need to restart qmail-send after certain configuration file
modifications. see the manual page for more information.

Regards, Uwe




"kapusta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>~user/.qmail-default is getting confusing I got response that I need to have
>~user/.qmail-domain to be able to get e-mail and .qmail-default is like
>whild card
>and it worked until I started create more users for this domain
>does anybody wrote something that make sense about virtual domains and
>aliases

I think:

  http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#virtual-domains

is pretty clear. What you seem to be missing is how virtual deliveries
are redirected and how .qmail files work. If you have a virtualdomains
entry like:

  example.com:john-example

A message sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] will be redirected to
john-example-info. In order to "catch" that mail, you'll need one of:

  ~john/.qmail-example-info
  ~john/.qmail-example-default
  ~john/.qmail-default
  ~alias/.qmail-john-example-info
  ~alias/.qmail-john-example-default
  ~alias/.qmail-john-default
  ~alias/.qmail-default

(And these are listed in the order qmail-local will look for them.)
The ~alias .qmail files will only be used if "john" isn't a valid
qmail user.

-Dave




I want to use qmail, maildirs and IMAP to config a mail server. I
installed qmail v1.03, daemontools and ucspi-tcp packages and everything
is running ok. I downloaded UW-IMAP 4.7b, compiled it, applied David
Harris patch and build it. Ok, now it's time to install IMAP, but I have
some doubts (probably they're a little bit basic, but I would be very
grateful if someone could help me). 

1. I'm following the BUILD doc and according to it, I should install the
pop2d, pop3d and imapd daemons in a system directory of my choosing. Is
it necessary to install the pop2d and pop3d daemons? What are they for?
Must all of them be running even if I wanna have only IMAP protocol?

2. According to the docs, I should update inetd.conf to invoke the
daemons. I guess I could use tcpserver instead of editing it. Is it
correct? Does IMAP daemon have to appear before qmail's dameons in init
scripts?

Thanks in advance,

Gilberto Rodrigues




* Gilberto Rodrigues ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [ 7 Apr 2000 08:49]:

> I want to use qmail, maildirs and IMAP to config a mail server. I
> installed qmail v1.03, daemontools and ucspi-tcp packages and everything
> is running ok. I downloaded UW-IMAP 4.7b, compiled it, applied David
> Harris patch and build it. Ok, now it's time to install IMAP, but I have
> some doubts (probably they're a little bit basic, but I would be very
> grateful if someone could help me). 

You may also wish to consider Mr. Sam's courier-imap, which works nicely with
Qmail and maildirs:

        http://www.inter7.com/courierimap/

[Dave: you could/should perhaps add this URL to the LWQ page in the IMAP
server section]

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Gilberto Rodrigues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>1. I'm following the BUILD doc and according to it, I should install the
>pop2d, pop3d and imapd daemons in a system directory of my choosing. Is
>it necessary to install the pop2d and pop3d daemons?

No.

>What are they for?

They're POP2 and POP3 server daemons.

>Must all of them be running even if I wanna have only IMAP protocol?

No.

>2. According to the docs, I should update inetd.conf to invoke the
>daemons. I guess I could use tcpserver instead of editing it. Is it
>correct?

I'm not sure. I know it runs out of inetd, though.

>Does IMAP daemon have to appear before qmail's dameons in init
>scripts?

No, it doesn't matter what order you start them.

-Dave




Hi,

although I'm almost expect my problem not having to do with qmail at all
it happens to me while I try to start qmail only.
Maybe you can give me a hint whats wrong.


Whenever I try to start qmail via /var/qmail/rc qmail doesn't seem to
start.
/var/qmail/rc is a copy from /var/qmail/boot/home

Using the "nohup" command in the rc-script as LWQ tells I get the
following output in nohup.out:
/usr/bin/nice: exec: No such file or directory

# bash --version
bash --version
GNU bash, version 2.03.0(1)-release (i386-suse-linux)
Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc.

# sh --version
GNU bash, version 2.03.0(1)-release (i386-suse-linux)
Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc.

I compiled qmail via
make
make setup check
./config-fast wotan.arc
(I just want to use it inhouse)

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Cyril Bitterich




root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Whenever I try to start qmail via /var/qmail/rc qmail doesn't seem to
>start.
>/var/qmail/rc is a copy from /var/qmail/boot/home
>
>Using the "nohup" command in the rc-script as LWQ tells I get the
>following output in nohup.out:
>/usr/bin/nice: exec: No such file or directory

What happens if you run /var/qmail/rc interactively as root?
Where is "nice" coming from? Does "nohup" run it?
What does your /var/qmail/rc look like, exactly?

-Dave




Hi there

I need to do the following :

- lock a mailbox (without deleting it or the mail contained in it)
- if a user tries to access a mailbox locked like this all they get back
when trying to collect mail is a preset 'call support to re-enable this
mailbox'.

Suggestions anyone ?

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   From: Shaun Gibson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 15:18:08 +0200

   Hi there

   I need to do the following :

   - lock a mailbox (without deleting it or the mail contained in it)
   - if a user tries to access a mailbox locked like this all they get back
   when trying to collect mail is a preset 'call support to re-enable this
   mailbox'.

   Suggestions anyone ?

   -- 
   Shaun Gibson

The "big hammer" would be to chown and/or chmod it away from the user,
depending on whether they had shell access.  The message seen by the
user might be confusing, but the technique is guaranteed to work for all
MUAs.  ;-}  Unfortunately, this would also bottle up deliveries, though
qmail would keep trying for a while.

                                        -- Bob Rogers




Quoting Shaun Gibson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> - lock a mailbox (without deleting it or the mail contained in it)

How do you normally lock an account on your particular flavor of
unix?  What's your authentication scheme?

> - if a user tries to access a mailbox locked like this all they get back
> when trying to collect mail is a preset 'call support to re-enable this
> mailbox'.

You didn't say what pop-3 server you're using.  qmail-pop3d could be
easily hacked to return "-ERR Mail account locked.  Call tech
support."  Whether the MUA actually displays to the user the server's
response is another question.

Aaron




Ok, here's a random idea that suddenly occurred to me:

When the account is locked, the POP daemon recognises this, and when a
user tries to get their mail, only send 1 message, which is a standard
message from tech Support telling the user that their account is locked
and instructions on what to do next.

Just a thought.
Aled.





Quoting Aled Treharne ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Ok, here's a random idea that suddenly occurred to me:
> 
> When the account is locked, the POP daemon recognises this, and when a
> user tries to get their mail, only send 1 message, which is a standard
> message from tech Support telling the user that their account is locked
> and instructions on what to do next.

Yes, an obvious flaw to hacking the server's error response is that
the account may not neccessarily be locked.  The user may have entered
an incorrect password.

Anyway, more details from the guy who posted would be nice.

Aaron




Shaun,

Try something like this,

Create a root owned Maildir with world read access:

#mkdir /etc/pop3lock
#mkdir /etc/pop3lock/users
#/var/qmail/bin/maildirmake /etc/pop3lock/Maildir
#chmod -R +rx /etc/pop3lock

Add the e-mail message you want the user to retrieve to /etc/pop3lock/Maildir/new/ and
make the file world readable.

Create the file /var/qmail/bin/pop3mail with the following contents:

#!/bin/sh
if [ -e "/etc/pop3lock/users/$USER" ]; then
  exec /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d /etc/pop3lock/Maildir
else
  exec /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d $1
fi


Make this file executable:

#chmod +x /var/qmail/bin/pop3mail


Replace /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d with /var/qmail/bin/pop3mail in the command that
starts you pop3 service.  Restart your pop3 service.

To lock a user's account create a file in /etc/pop3lock/users named the same as the
user's account name:

#touch /etc/pop3lock/users/shaung


With the file in place the user will only retrieve the 'account locked' message that
you created each time they check their mail.

Remove the file to unlock their account:

#rm /etc/pop3lock/users/shaung


This is only one of many, many ways to do this.   I welcome your feedback.

Bob

Shaun Gibson wrote:

> Hi there
>
> I need to do the following :
>
> - lock a mailbox (without deleting it or the mail contained in it)
> - if a user tries to access a mailbox locked like this all they get back
> when trying to collect mail is a preset 'call support to re-enable this
> mailbox'.
>
> Suggestions anyone ?
>
> --
> Shaun Gibson
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Associate Unix and NT System Adminstrator              Tel :
> +27-11-2667800 ext 8023
> Intekom, Midrand, South Africa
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Hi,

Anybody know if Yahoo is still having problems? I have a faily large
anouncment list to post this weekend and I need to know if I have to rig
something using a special box for yahoo addresses and serialmail. I can't
find anything on the yahoo site about this problem at all.

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Phi Theta Kappa International Honor Society
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Jackson, MS 39211

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Hi,

telnet mx2.mail.yahoo.com 25
telnet mx1.mail.yahoo.com 25

it seems it works :)
Octave

Bill Luckett a �crit :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Anybody know if Yahoo is still having problems? I have a faily large
> anouncment list to post this weekend and I need to know if I have to rig
> something using a special box for yahoo addresses and serialmail. I can't
> find anything on the yahoo site about this problem at all.
> 
> *******************************************
> Bill Luckett
> Director of Information Systems
> Phi Theta Kappa International Honor Society
> 1625 Eastover Dr.
> Jackson, MS 39211
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Ph : 601-984-3559
> Fax: 601-984-3506
> *******************************************

-- 
Amicalement,
Octave 
>>>>> no swap allowed <<<<<




> Anybody know if Yahoo is still having problems? I have a faily large
> anouncment list to post this weekend and I need to know if I have to rig
> something using a special box for yahoo addresses and serialmail. I can't
> find anything on the yahoo site about this problem at all.

It seems to be working fine today.  My impression was the situation was
sporadically improving yesterday.






> So, a male bra-salesperson is not allowed? Who cares? Maybe there's no
> free archiver that uses postfix yet. Why don't we take the best of
> both worlds?

In this case, the brasalesman tells his customer "nobody wears bras
nowadays".  In agreement with the subject of my message, I really do
not see what part of my original message invited flame.

Mate




On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 03:03:18PM -0500, Ronny Haryanto wrote:
> This thread is silly and doesn't give any valuable knowledge.
> Both software are good and have their own +/-. Please let us keep this
> list objective and use it to discuss qmail. I would hate to see this
> becomes another flame war, I've seen it in postfix-users list, it's
> not good.

This message is the first one in the thread that reminded me of anything like
a flame war.

--Adam




> From:  Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date:  Fri, 7 Apr 2000 11:55:36 -0400
>
> On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 03:03:18PM -0500, Ronny Haryanto wrote:
> > This thread is silly and doesn't give any valuable knowledge.
> > Both software are good and have their own +/-. Please let us keep this
> > list objective and use it to discuss qmail. I would hate to see this
> > becomes another flame war, I've seen it in postfix-users list, it's
> > not good.
> 
> This message is the first one in the thread that reminded me of anything like
> a flame war.

Personally, I found it amusing to see a message with the subject line 'Re: 
funny' complaining that a thread was silly.  What did he expect?

Chris

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Yes, Charles, I'm pretty darn happy at this point. Thank you both,
Charles and Claus. So here's what I think you're saying.


1) The To: and From: headers are basically completely forgeable, and
can't be trusted for tracing spam (along with Reply-To).

2) The only things that matter are the envelope sender and recipient,
and qmail stores these as Return-Path: and Delivered-To:, respectively.
And Return-Path: can be forged anyway.

-> Looking at INTERNALS, qmail appears to store the envelope sender
under queue/info and the recipients under queue/local and queue/remote,
eh?

3) So the only thing I can trust (ignoring spoofing) is the IP address
shown in the Received: header from which my server got the message.


Thanks guys,

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Cazabon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 10:45 AM
To: Dave Kitabjian
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: Understanding "To" and "From"


Dave Kitabjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> It's time for me to understand this stuff clearly once and for all,
> partly so that I can handle spam intelligently and properly.
> 
> I'm unclear on the exact relationships between the following:
> 
> -------------------
> 1) MUA: "From", "To", "Bcc", "Reply Address" fields
> 
> 2) SMTP: "MAIL FROM:" and "RCPT TO:"
> 
> 3) Delivered Message: "To:", "From:", "Reply-To:", "Return-Path:"
> headers. Also, the terms "envelope sender" and "envelope recipient".

SMTP "MAIL FROM:" is the envelope sender, and "RCPT TO:" is the 
envelope recipient.  These are the only things that matter to an MTA;
it doesn't care what addresses are listed in the From: and To: headers
in
the message itself.

> From what I currently understand, the MUA fields are (obviously)
> completed by the sender. (Let's assume a common client like Eudora or
> Outlook Express rather than qmail-inject for this discussion).

They are all effectively completed by the sender.  MS-Windows mail
clients
may automatically use the contents of the From: header as the envelope
sender, but with many mail programs the user can set the envelope
addresses
to whatever he likes.
 
> When connecting to the SMTP server to send the message, the "From" and
> "To" fields are copied by the MUA to become the "From:" and "To:"
> headers of the message. The "From" field is also used in the SMTP
> conversation as the "MAIL FROM:".

Not necessarily.  For example, if the user has QMAILUSER/QMAILHOST set
in
their environment, qmail will construct the envelope sender address from
those
if injected locally.

> The "Reply-To" header is created by the MUA from either the "Reply
> Address" field, if present, or else the "From" field. The
"Return-Path:"
> header is added by the SMTP server based on the "Reply-To" or "From"
> header (?)

Reply-To: is not necessarily, unless you want replies to go to an
address
different from the From: address.
 
> -> Question: So, now what do we look at to determine the "envelope
> sender" and "envelope recipient"? Secondly, which of these
terms/headers
> is used to determine whom qmail delivers the message to?

With qmail, the envelope sender is preserved in the Return-path: header.
The envelope recipient is preserved in the Delivered-To: header.
 
> Okay, now the message bounces because because it's an evil spam
message.
> 
> -> Question: Where does MAILER-DAEMON send the bounce message? To the
> "From:" person? "Reply-To:"?

The Return-Path: header, which is a copy of the envelope sender address.
But since it's spam, it will be one of:

-Empty <>
-Fake/nonexistent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
-Real, but an innocent bystander's address <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

And the bounce will either bounce or be delivered to the innocent
bystander.
 
> If I could understand THIS much, I'd be very happy. 

Happy?

Charles 
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Your questions have been answered well, and you seem to have a good
handle on the situation, but here's a message I sent to the
majordomo-users list last year that explains the relationship between
message headers, bodies, and envelopes.

----

This is a long explanation, but if you're not an SMTP guru it's
probably worth reading.

SMTP is kind of like snail mail in that you have a letter (message)
inside an envelope. The letter has the addresses of the sender and
recipient(s) (e.g., the To/From/CC header fields) but the envelope has
the true sender/recipient addresses used to deliver the letter. In the
case of SMTP, the envelope addresses are conveyed by the SMTP MAIL
(sender or return path) and RCPT (recipient) commands.

Just like the post office uses the envelope addresses to control
delivery or return undeliverable letters, so SMTP uses its envelope
addresses. If a message can't be delivered to one of the recipients, a 
bounce message is sent to the sender (return path).

Let's look at some typical scenarios.

Case 1: User-to-user

User A sends a message to user B. The From header field is A, the To
header field is B, the envelope return path is A, and the envelope
recipient is B. E.g.:

    (Envelope)
        Sender: A
        Recipient: B

    (Message)
        From: A
        To: B

        body of message

Case 2: User-to-user with BCC

User A sends a message to user B and BCC's user C. The From field is
A, the To field is B, the envelope return path is A, and the envelope
recipients are B and C:

    (Envelope)
        Sender: A
        Recipients: B, C

    (Message)
        From: A
        To: B

        body of message

Case 3: User-to-list

User A sends a message to list LIST. List mail is a little tricky
because the message is first delivered to the mailing list resender,
then forwarded by the resender to the subscribers. The first hop is
like Case 1 except the Recipient/To is the list submission address:

    (Envelope)
        Sender: A
        Recipients: LIST

    (Message)
        From: A
        To: LIST

        body of message

The second hop is like Case 2 except the Recipients are the
subscribers and the Sender is the list owner alias:

    (Envelope)
        Sender: LIST owner
        Recipients: LIST subscribers

    (Message)
        From: A
        To: LIST

        body of message

Note that by setting the Sender on the second hop to the list owner
address, bounces to undeliverable recipients are directed to the list
owner rather than the originator of the message. Of course, some MTA's 
aren't fully SMTP-compliant, and they grab a return address from the
headers.

-Dave




Is there any component of qmail/ucspi-tcp that would initiate identd
lookups on a remote host? A network admin has complained that his
server has been receiving a large amount of identd queries to his
server coming from our mailserver. 

Here's the excerpt from the logfile he sent us. 210.16.71.2 is our mailserver.

Apr  6 07:40:11 lillie /kernel: ipfw: 500 Deny TCP 210.110.247.244:53
161.184.159.82:111 in via ed0
Apr  6 08:06:37 lillie /kernel: ipfw: 500 Deny TCP 210.16.71.2:4963
161.184.159.82:113 in via ed0
Apr  6 08:06:58 lillie last message repeated 3 times
Apr  6 08:36:04 lillie /kernel: ipfw: 500 Deny TCP 210.16.71.2:3168
161.184.159.82:113 in via ed0
Apr  6 08:36:22 lillie last message repeated 2 times
Apr  6 09:06:12 lillie /kernel: ipfw: 500 Deny TCP 210.16.71.2:1153
161.184.159.82:113 in via ed0
Apr  6 09:06:33 lillie last message repeated 3 times
Apr  6 10:05:51 lillie /kernel: ipfw: 500 Deny TCP 210.16.71.2:3246
161.184.159.82:113 in via ed0
Apr  6 10:06:12 lillie last message repeated 2 times
Apr  6 10:39:18 lillie /kernel: ipfw: 500 Deny TCP 210.16.71.2:4250
161.184.159.82:113 in via ed0
Apr  6 10:39:36 lillie last message repeated 2 times
Apr  6 11:06:09 lillie /kernel: ipfw: 500 Deny TCP 210.16.71.2:4038
161.184.159.82:113 in via ed0
Apr  6 11:06:18 lillie last message repeated 2 times
Apr  6 12:07:37 lillie /kernel: ipfw: 500 Deny TCP 210.16.71.2:1681
161.184.159.82:113 in via ed0
Apr  6 12:07:46 lillie last message repeated 2 times
Apr  6 12:35:40 lillie /kernel: ipfw: 500 Deny TCP 210.16.71.2:1410
161.184.159.82:113 in via ed0
Apr  6 12:36:01 lillie last message repeated 3 times
Apr  6 13:05:38 lillie /kernel: ipfw: 500 Deny TCP 210.16.71.2:1899
161.184.159.82:113 in via ed0

TIA,
Brian
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there any component of qmail/ucspi-tcp that would initiate identd
> lookups on a remote host? A network admin has complained that his
> server has been receiving a large amount of identd queries to his
> server coming from our mailserver. 

tcpserver does identd lookups by default.  You're probably using it to
run qmail-smtpd and possibly qmail-pop3d.  man tcpserver to disable these
lookups.

Charles
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On Sat, Apr 08, 2000 at 12:12:24AM +0800,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Is there any component of qmail/ucspi-tcp that would initiate identd
> lookups on a remote host? A network admin has complained that his
> server has been receiving a large amount of identd queries to his
> server coming from our mailserver. 

As long as email is coming from his server to yours, do ident lookups
back to his server is reasonable and he really shouldn't have a problem 
with that. If he doesn't want to provide ident, than he shouldn't run
a server on that port.

It may be that you don't want to have ident lookups done. They are really
to help the remote site track back problems, rather than do anything for
you directly.




I have a user [EMAIL PROTECTED] that has an account on our qmail box 
and would like the mail delivered to /home/testme/Maildir.  The qmail 
box is also a virtual domain for sailnet.com.  The default domain for 
the qmail box is sailnet.net.  
How do I get her mail delievered /home/test/Maildir instead of 
/home/vpopmail/domains/sailnet.com/testme/Maildir?

Thanx,
Jay







* Jay Moore ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [ 7 Apr 2000 12:21]:

> I have a user [EMAIL PROTECTED] that has an account on our qmail box 
> and would like the mail delivered to /home/testme/Maildir.  The qmail 
> box is also a virtual domain for sailnet.com.  The default domain for 
> the qmail box is sailnet.net.  
> How do I get her mail delievered /home/test/Maildir instead of 
> /home/vpopmail/domains/sailnet.com/testme/Maildir?

One way is to put:

        /home/test/Maildir/

as the contents of file:

        /home/vpopmail/domains/sailnet.com/.qmail-testme

E.g.

        % cd ~vpopmail/domains/sailnet.com
        % echo /home/test/Maildir/ > .qmail-testme

and make sure that  /home/test/Maildir/ et. al. is writable by
the vpopmail user. E.g.

        chown -R vpopmail.vchkpw /home/test/Maildir

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On Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 10:58:42AM +0700, A. Yahya Sjarifuddin wrote:
> Is there any incomptability with Lotus or just wrong
> setting?
>
> >> Remote host said: 500 Session already established. The domain name
> >[smtp-a.cbn.net.id] passed in with HELO will be ignored. The current domain
> >name of sending SMTP is [www.wtwh.com.cn].

DJB removed from Cc:

We had this problem sporadically with some of our customers, too.
This is a bug in Lotus for which AFAIK exists a fix.
Upgrade the Lotus Server.

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Quoting Jeremy Hansen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> This is true, yet I don't understand why Wietse claims so many more people
> are using Postfix.  I don't have the link to the thread off hand, but I
> remember reading something along the lines of "No one uses qmail, a few
> people are using Postfix" which boggled my mind because all the places
> I've visited in the past month or so in the Silicon Valley, about 10 - 15
> companies all use qmail, none use Postfix.  So where is he getting his
> information?

The proverbial ether, probably!  I really think he should have left
the name as Vapormail, which DJB suggested he should name is
"vaporware" MTA.  Heh.  Well, hmm, if I remember correctly.  It was
awhile ago Wietse came here trolling for a name for his new qmail
replacement.  I remember getting a laugh out of it, whatever the name
was ;-)

I like Vapormail better than ``Postfix.''  What does that mean,
anyway?  :)

Aaron




postfix sounds like a formatter for a online form submittal program, not a
mail server..

I mean, How do you go from postfix to mail server (at least qmail and
sendmail have the word MAIL in their titles).

Matt Soffen 
        Web Intranet Developer
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aaron L. Meehan [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 12:42 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      Vapormail (was: Re: Problem: 552 max. message size exceeded)
> 
> Quoting Jeremy Hansen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > This is true, yet I don't understand why Wietse claims so many more
> people
> > are using Postfix.  I don't have the link to the thread off hand, but I
> > remember reading something along the lines of "No one uses qmail, a few
> > people are using Postfix" which boggled my mind because all the places
> > I've visited in the past month or so in the Silicon Valley, about 10 -
> 15
> > companies all use qmail, none use Postfix.  So where is he getting his
> > information?
> 
> The proverbial ether, probably!  I really think he should have left
> the name as Vapormail, which DJB suggested he should name is
> "vaporware" MTA.  Heh.  Well, hmm, if I remember correctly.  It was
> awhile ago Wietse came here trolling for a name for his new qmail
> replacement.  I remember getting a laugh out of it, whatever the name
> was ;-)
> 
> I like Vapormail better than ``Postfix.''  What does that mean,
> anyway?  :)
> 
> Aaron




"Soffen, Matthew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>postfix sounds like a formatter for a online form submittal program, not a
>mail server..

The term "postfix" is computer science jargon for grammars where the
operands of an operation precede the operator. For example, "1 1 +" is 
the postfix version of "1 + 1". (Our normal grammar, where the
operator is between the operands, is called "infix".)

>I mean, How do you go from postfix to mail server (at least qmail and
>sendmail have the word MAIL in their titles).

Well, "post" is "mail", and "fix", well, I guess that means it fixes
mail problems (namely sendmail :-).

I think Postfix is as good a name for an MTA as any.

-Dave




I'm using qmail v1.03 and UW-IMAP 4.7b and both of them are running ok.
All users have a Maildir directory in their home, with
read-write-execute access. qmail can send local and remote messages and
new messages are being delivered in ~/Maildir/new. Below is a copy of my
IMAP log file:

2000-04-07 17:15:40.781340500 tcpserver: status: 0/40
2000-04-07 17:16:56.991030500 tcpserver: status: 1/40
2000-04-07 17:16:56.993396500 tcpserver: pid 991 from 192.168.30.9
2000-04-07 17:16:57.093989500 tcpserver: ok 991
:192.168.30.9:143:192.168.30.9::32819
2000-04-07 17:21:11.801655500 tcpserver: status: 2/40
2000-04-07 17:21:11.804038500 tcpserver: pid 995 from 192.168.30.9
2000-04-07 17:21:11.848831500 tcpserver: ok 995
:192.168.30.9:143:192.168.30.9::32824

Users are using Netscape Messenger 4.6 to deal with their mail. I
configured it (as below) to use the IMAP server I set up, but it can't
read any messages. 

GENERAL tab
Server Name: magenta
Server Type: IMAP

IMAP tab
Only the second option selected (When I delete a message: Mark it as
deleted.)

ADVANCED tab
IMAP server directory: INBOX
Personal Namespace: nothing
Public (shared): nothing
Other Users: nothing
(note: when I pressed the OK button, it changed the last textboxes to:
Personal Namespace:"#mh/","#mhinbox",""
Public (shared): "#public/","#news.","#ftp/","#shared/"
Other Users: "~")

Does anybody know what is wrong? I imagine it won't exist, but does
anybody know any tutorial or how-to to configure IMAP clients?

Thanks in advance,

Gilberto Rodrigues




Gilberto Rodrigues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I'm using qmail v1.03 and UW-IMAP 4.7b and both of them are running ok.

I don't think so, or you wouldn't be posting...

Did you install maildir patches for imap? Which ones?

>IMAP server directory: INBOX

Should that be Maildir?

-Dave




Ok, got my server back up with tripwire, dnscache, swatch, and a few other
security toys...  We'll see how long it stays up. :/

Anyway, I have qmail installed and working, but I'm just wanting to verify
how the man pages can be installed.  Is it as simple as just cp *.X into
/usr/man/manX, maybe even gziping then on the way?

thanks,
John






On Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 01:14:20PM -0500, John W. Lemons III wrote:
> Ok, got my server back up with tripwire, dnscache, swatch, and a few other
> security toys...  We'll see how long it stays up. :/
> 
> Anyway, I have qmail installed and working, but I'm just wanting to verify
> how the man pages can be installed.  Is it as simple as just cp *.X into
> /usr/man/manX, maybe even gziping then on the way?

Yes it's just that simple. 
BUT: The even more simpler and more koscher way to do it is to add
/var/qmail/man to your MANPATH. It's much easier to clean, upgrade and know
what's what.

But I reckon this is sometimes a religious choice. 

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"Ricardo D. Albano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Some times my mail server don't delivery mails, qmail-remote not run and my
>queue grow up. What can cause this ? I these cases the solution is kill all
>qmail-xxxxx and run the init script again (/var/qmail/rc).

What Do The Logs Say? (tm)
Have You Checked Your Trigger? (sm)

References:

http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#logs
http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#trigger

-Dave




"Daniluk, Cristopher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Is it possible to have qmail-smtpd dump mail into a place where it can be
>preprocessed by some spawned script?

Yes. Set up two qmail installations. The one that listens to port 25
has an empty control/locals, and control/virtualdomains files that
feed everything though your script and re-inject into the second qmail 
installation, which delivers normally.

-Dave




Dave Sill wrote:
>
>has an empty control/locals, and control/virtualdomains files that

Make that "control/virtualdomains *entries*"

-Dave




On Apr 06 2000, Daniel Carlos wrote:
> My email server (qmail 1.03) is accepting a message for relay
> internally.  Here is the test made for abuse.net.  The Ip
> 200.XXX.XX.XX is my e-mail server.  How solve this?

        You don't have a problem. Therefore, you don't have to solve
        anything. You should get a bounce for the message that was
        tried to be delivered and no spam relayed.


        []s, Roger...

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Hello,

I need to call a perl script every time a message arrives at one mail box on
qmail.

reading the docs I found that creating a .qmail file in the directory of the
user with "|/my_program" will call the program.

This work but I cannot receive the message in stdin...
(Obs: my perl is very bad too)

If some good soul can send me a example perl script that gets the content of
the message, i will apreciate...


thanks,

Carlo






Carlo Gibertini a �crit :
> If some good soul can send me a example perl script that gets the content of
> the message, i will apreciate...

#! /usr/local/bin/perl -w
while (<>) {
  /microsoft/oi && exit 100
}

  What is the exact content of your .qmail file ? Did you check Qmail
logs ?

  Best regards,
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Carlo Gibertini a �crit :
> user with "|/my_program" will call the program.

"| ./my_program" would be better.

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At 17:23 06/04/2000 +0200, octave klaba wrote:
>Hi,
>I want to run more qmail-remote process. At the moment
>it is only 10 and it is slow :(
>
>where can I setup it to 30 or 50 ?
recompile your qmail, and change the value of conf-spawn to be 255 from 120
before.
then add /var/qmail/control/concurrencylocal and put the value of 255 there.
and your qmail speed to deliver outbound would be faster.
don't forget to restart the qmail-send program afterall.


>
>thanks !
>
>Octave
>
>-- 
>Amicalement,
>Octave 
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At 15:38 06/04/2000 +0000, Jennifer Tippens wrote:
>Hello,
>I'm having difficulty with the qmailqueue patch 
>(http://www.qmail.org/qmailqueue-patch)  I'm not sure if I'm doing it 
>correctly, as I have not had to patch anything before. I copied the patch 
>part of the text to a file on my box and called it qmailqueue-patch and put 
>it into a newly untarred qmail-1.03 source.  Then I just did: patch 
><qmailqueue-patch and it came back with:
>
>patching file `Makefile'
>Hunk #1 FAILED at 1483.
>1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to Makefile.rej

then do vi qmailqueue-patch and see the line 1483.
usually the problem is like this
the end of a line is ;}
but the } go to the second line
and make the line only contain ;
you should move the } to the correct line (it is the upper line of its now)
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At 01:16 07/04/2000 +0545, Bill Moller wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I've setup vpopmail in my RH6.2 box. Do I have to make any changes in 
>inetd.conf file as well. How do I check that it's working? Also could 
you ought to run qmail from tcpserver if you want to run qmail with
vpopmail, if not, then if there IS rcpthosts at /var/qmail/control then you
couldn't do send any outbound messages.

>anyone suggest me a good manual page site for VPOPMAIL.

then take a loot at http://www.inter7.com/vpopmail
they have the manual and admin page for vpopmail.

>
>Thanks
>
>Regards
>
>Bill
>
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Hello people!

I have a many machines installed with qmail-1.03 with simular config.
But today I found that mail for one user (oracle) on one of machines is
just bounced with "Sorry, no mailbox by that name #5.1.1" error. This has
.qmail for forwarding his email to mailhub. 

All other users with simular config, oracle user on other machines with
same config work just fine, but this one...ugh...

I've checked all permissions, tried to create ./Maildir/, everything looks
good for. But not for qmail.

Any thoughts/suggestions?

Thanks in advance!

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Concerning uids and gids of the qmail system users:

Are the numeric uids and gids compiled into the qmail-1.03 programs, or are
the names used?

I'm assuming (after having some difficulties; read on) the numeric uids/gids
are compiled in.  Is this a correct assumption?  I moved qmail binaries from
one Linux box to another wich are identitical except for a few things, one
of them being the uids & gids of various accounts and groups.  qmail-start
yacked with a alert: cannot start: unable to switch to queue directory.

kw





Keith Warno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Concerning uids and gids of the qmail system users:
> 
> Are the numeric uids and gids compiled into the qmail-1.03 programs, or are
> the names used?

Yes, it's numeric, as the (quicker) reply noted.  But you may be interested
in Bruce Guenter's qmail RPMs -- they include a patch which makes qmail get
its UIDs/GIDs from a set of control files instead of being compiled in.

His qmail+patches RPMs are available from:
http://www.em.ca/~bruceg/

Charles
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+ "Keith Warno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

| Concerning uids and gids of the qmail system users:
| 
| Are the numeric uids and gids compiled into the qmail-1.03 programs?

Yes.

- Harald




Is anything wrong with this page or is it just me?

http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html#config-files





[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is anything wrong with this page or is it just me?
> 
> http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html#config-files

It loads fine here, and the content (from a quick glance) still appears
sane.  What problem are you having?

Charles 
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It does not align correctly and I am missing all the text from tables, but I
think its my broweser
-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, April 07, 2000 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: Is any thing wrong with this page


>[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Is anything wrong with this page or is it just me?
>>
>> http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html#config-files
>
>It loads fine here, and the content (from a quick glance) still appears
>sane.  What problem are you having?
>
>Charles
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It must be my browser everything looks good on other computer
I was missing text in  tables 
strange

-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, April 07, 2000 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: Is any thing wrong with this page


>[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Is anything wrong with this page or is it just me?
>> 
>> http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html#config-files
>
>It loads fine here, and the content (from a quick glance) still appears
>sane.  What problem are you having?
>
>Charles 
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I have a utility on my web server called wsendmail.exe that's used for
turning forms on web pages into email messages. The program that fails to
work for delivering messages to any qmail server. Other mailing exe's work
fine, it's just wsendmail. Our mail server is Mercur and the failure notice
I get back just says the mail is undeliverable, as if the mail server didn't
exist at all. Is there any known reason for this? I thought it might have
something to do with the way that the wsendmail program formats the headers
in the message.

Dale Anderson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





On Sat, Apr 08, 2000 at 12:57:34AM -0700, Dale Anderson wrote:
 
> I have a utility on my web server called wsendmail.exe that's used for

wsendmail is a piece of bad software.

> exist at all. Is there any known reason for this? I thought it might have
> something to do with the way that the wsendmail program formats the headers
> in the message.

wsendmail violates the SMTP protocol by not sending a CR/LF (\r\n) at
the end of the all lines.
You might want to replace wsendmail with something not so stupid.
Otherwise you could use fixcrio from the ucspi-tcp package.

Regards, Uwe


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