Hello Jeff.

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Jeff Hayward wrote:

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> Hey Rok, how's the trolling today?

Great!!! :)). No, realy. I actualy got a *response* (yours).  It is not a
polite one (I didn't expect it to be), but at least it *is* there... it is even
suggesting something.
Was that "RTFM" so hard to say the first time I asked for help ?? :-). It
didn't help much.. but it was a gesture.

You actualy proved that when politeness doesn't get you anywhere
trolling might :).

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> You checked TFM 'man tcpclient', right?  Perhaps you could describe

Actualy I just did (man 1 tcpclient)... I still don't have a clue why it works
when I telnet and why it doesn't when I fork() and exec() from daemon. Since
daemon environment is a bit different I realy hopped for someone more
experianced to help me out....
And btw.: I didn't check tcpclient *before* becouse I didn't notice maildirsmtp
is a script. I apologize for not knowing everything :-(. I also alopologize
for not checking every executable on my sistem if is is a script or a binary
image - but what can you expect from a simple user.
And about the tcpclient errors... When run from telnet maildirsmtp worked and
when run from a daemon, errors got lost to /dev/null becouse I didn't redirect
error logging correctly (I did "2>&1 >" instead of "> 2>&1" ).

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> the efforts you've made to resolve your trouble.  We already know
> about the throwing about of insults, but that's not generally a

Throwing insults? Let me check:
Ok one might be here:
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>> Everybody can smart-ass around about Linux support how great the
>> mailinglist/newsgroup support is and that it's better than commercial.
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This one applies only if you claim that linux support is great. And the other
one can apply only if you "don't know":
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>> The people who know don't bother to answer, the people who don't know
>> smart-ass around :-((((.
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I was a bit upset.... I apologize for the later one.. but the smart-assing about
*great* Linux support stays!!! Linux support isn't great and the docs aren't
great (except for some *realy* great HOWTOs in /usr/doc/HOWTO).  And guess
what.. the first time someone actualy had to tell me where to look for them :).
A "RTFM /usr/doc/HOWTO/*" got me "on the track".  Can you please do the same
for qmail+serialmail ?

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> about the throwing about of insults, but that's not generally a
> success strategy.  What else have you done?

Since you obviously know more about success strategies then me, please do help
me and show me how to get help.

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> success strategy.  What else have you done?

I've searched the Qmail and Serialmail mailing list archives for similar
problems.
I've serached the www.qmail.org site for "serialmail" and "maildirsmtp".
I did "man maildirsmtp".
I did "cat /opt/qmail/doc/* | grep serialmail".
I've read "/opt/serialmail/doc/serialmail/*" files.
And *then* I asked on the Qmail mailing list.


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best regards,
Rok Papez.

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