qmail Digest 24 Sep 1999 10:00:01 -0000 Issue 769
Topics (messages 30731 through 30814):
Re: virtual domain and aliases
30731 by: Anand Buddhdev
30732 by: Edward Castillo-Jakosalem
30740 by: Anand Buddhdev
Re: smtp server as a relay 2� part
30733 by: Vince Vielhaber
Re: Recording the envelope-from in Received: line
30734 by: Andre Oppermann
30737 by: Claus F�rber
Better than badmailfrom to prevent SPAM
30735 by: Dimitri SZAJMAN
Re: isocor the fastest?
30736 by: Claus F�rber
Re: Mailer-daemon returns full message
30738 by: Claus F�rber
Re: Need help!
30739 by: Thomas Booms EDV
30741 by: Thomas Booms EDV
30742 by: Thomas Booms EDV
30747 by: David Dyer-Bennet
Re: qmail-popup without maildir
30743 by: Luis Campos de Carvalho
30745 by: Vince Vielhaber
30746 by: Luis Campos de Carvalho
Re: Install help
30744 by: Dave Sill
Batched qmail injection - how?
30748 by: Chuck R. Combs
30749 by: Luis Campos de Carvalho
High volume performance questions
30750 by: Luke Blanshard
30756 by: Dave Sill
30759 by: Fred Lindberg
Funny POP3 errors
30751 by: J.P. Racine
30752 by: Petr Novotny
30753 by: kbo.inter7.com
TCP wrapper
30754 by: Thomas Booms EDV
30755 by: schinder.leprss.gsfc.nasa.gov
Re: MANPATH variable?
30757 by: Juan Carlos Castro y Castro
Authorization failed
30758 by: Thomas Booms EDV
30762 by: Dave Sill
30765 by: Thomas Booms EDV
30770 by: Dave Sill
30774 by: Thomas Booms EDV
qmail config question
30760 by: Franklin A Hays
30766 by: Dave Sill
Qmail
30761 by: william.imag.net
30763 by: Dave Sill
30764 by: Timothy L. Mayo
30767 by: Dave Sill
30768 by: william.mail-west.imag.net
30769 by: Chris Garrigues
30772 by: Andre Oppermann
30773 by: Timothy L. Mayo
30777 by: Fred Lindberg
30783 by: Andre Oppermann
Relaying problem
30771 by: Marek Narkiewicz
30775 by: Dave Sill
30808 by: Cyril Bitterich
QMAIL-LDAP list
30776 by: John Schmerold
30778 by: Patrick Berry
Hopefully my last question. :-)
30779 by: Glenn Crownover
30781 by: Luis Campos de Carvalho
30785 by: Patrick Berry
30786 by: Glenn Crownover
30787 by: Patrick Berry
30793 by: Juan Carlos Castro y Castro
30795 by: Glenn Crownover
30799 by: Mirko Zeibig
daemontools-0.53 not available in LWQ site
30780 by: Franklin A Hays
30782 by: Patrick Berry
30784 by: Timothy L. Mayo
Re: Hopefully my last question. :-) <SOLVED>
30788 by: Glenn Crownover
30789 by: Glenn Crownover
30790 by: Chris Garrigues
Re: FQDN
30791 by: Stephen Lavelle
autoresponder
30792 by: Ted Lin
30796 by: Jim Gilliver
qmail startup script
30794 by: Franklin A Hays
30797 by: schinder.leprss.gsfc.nasa.gov
30798 by: Sam
30800 by: Mikko H�nninen
30801 by: Franklin A Hays
30802 by: Franklin A Hays
30803 by: Mikko H�nninen
Re: When will qmail back off to the next MX?
30804 by: Russell Nelson
Re: cyclog and daily logs
30805 by: Russell Nelson
30809 by: Peter Samuel
qmail startup
30806 by: Franklin A Hays
Re: IMAP with Qmail
30807 by: Kenneth Karlsson
APOP question
30810 by: Ludovic Kuty
Re: A patched qmail-smtpd.c
30811 by: Van Liedekerke Franky
30812 by: Hotdog
30813 by: Petr Novotny
30814 by: Hotdog
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On Thu, Sep 23, 1999 at 03:38:14PM +0800, Edward Castillo-Jakosalem wrote:
> Hi to all!
> I already have the following entry in my virtualdomains file:
> doods.net.ph:ecj
> If I send mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED], no problem. However, if I send to an
> alias, say [EMAIL PROTECTED], it remains in the queue. I already have a
> user named 'pogi' and have .qmail-pogi in ~ecj.
What are the contents of ~ecj/.qmail-pogi and what do your logs show
when qmail attempts delivery for [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?
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> What are the contents of ~ecj/.qmail-pogi and what do your logs show
> when qmail attempts delivery for [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?
~ecj/.qmail-pogi contains nothing.
My log complains something about the aliases.cdb file. I checked it and
found it to be corrupted. Fixed this already. I think that fixes the
problem.
BTW, do I have to put something in ~ecj/.qmail-pogi or should I leave it
empty?
Thanks Anand!
>
> --
> See complete headers for more info
>
On Thu, Sep 23, 1999 at 06:19:35PM +0800, Edward Castillo-Jakosalem wrote:
> > What are the contents of ~ecj/.qmail-pogi and what do your logs show
> > when qmail attempts delivery for [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?
>
> ~ecj/.qmail-pogi contains nothing.
qmail takes that to mean that mail for [EMAIL PROTECTED] should be
delivered into ecj's mailbox. Also, the .qmail-pogi file has to be
readable by ecj. If it's not, then qmail will defer delivery of mail for
that address. That's what may have been happening to you.
> My log complains something about the aliases.cdb file. I checked it and
> found it to be corrupted. Fixed this already. I think that fixes the
> problem.
It's good that your problem appears to have been solved, but I cannot
understand how the aliases.cdb was affecting you, since deliveries for
doods.net.ph are controlled by ejc. Usually, aliases.cdb is referenced
when the username is not found in /etc/passwd. It always helps if you
can post the section of your log concerning these deliveries, because it
may point out something which you haven't realised. Anyway, since you're
OK now, it doesn't matter.
> BTW, do I have to put something in ~ecj/.qmail-pogi or should I leave it
> empty?
That depends. Like I said above, if it is empty (0 bytes), then the mail
will be delivered to ecj's mailbox. If you want to forward it on, you
have to put the forwarding address in the file.
--
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On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Ana [iso-8859-1] Bel�n Santos wrote:
>
> Chris Johnson wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Sep 22, 1999 at 11:45:19AM +0200, Ana Bel�n Santos wrote:
> > > I want to allow selected clients to use my smtp server as a relay. I
> > > have used tcpserver, but I only can restrict the access controling the
> > > IP of the sender and I want to control the email address of the sender,
> > > not the IP. Is this possible?? How can I do that??
> >
> > As others have pointed out, it's a bad idea to allow relaying based on sender
> > address. But if you really want to do it, try this patch:
>
> I know that it is a bad idea, but my problem is that the user that I have given
> a mail account
> in my system has dinamic IP addressing. So, how can I allow using my smtp server
> as a relay to
> this user and no for nobady else if I dont know his IP address???
If the user has a mail account, you can run David Harris' smtp-poplock
to allow relaying after the user checks his mail. You can set the timeout
to whatever you want. There's a link to it from www.qmail.org.
Vince.
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Jos Backus wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 23, 1999 at 11:41:30AM +0200, Andre Oppermann wrote:
> > Well, then have a look at the header of this email...
> >
> > In my first answer it was:
> >
> > Received: from unknown (HELO pipeline.ch) ([195.134.128.41])
> > (envelope-sender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
> > by mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP
> > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 22 Sep 1999 09:29:01 -0000
>
> Cool! I didn't look at the header before, sorry.
>
> Now it's of course a matter of patches being politically acceptable here...
Why? It has actually nothing to do with ldap. It's simply contained
in there (together with the qmail-smtpd logging through tcpserver).
AFAIK you only need the changes I made to received.c (and don't forget
to change the "qmail-ldap-1.03" text).
There lots of other useful things in qmail-ldap which are not ldap
related. So far I haven't got time to break them out and make
independent patches.
--
Andre
Jos Backus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb/wrote:
> With sendmail and Postfix (or so I've heard) it is possible to record the
> envelope-from address in the Received: line. This is deemed useful by my
> colleagues for tracing mails trough broken e-mail gateways.
Well, qmail never changes the envelope sender. You can tell that your
colleagues; qmail will alway add an additional Received line starting
with "(qmail invoked by xyz)", so it can be easily spotted within
received lines.
On the other hand, patching the relevant code in qmail should be easy.
--
Claus Andre Faerber <http://www.faerber.muc.de>
PGP: ID=1024/527CADCD FP=12 20 49 F3 E1 04 9E 9E 25 56 69 A5 C6 A0 C9 DC
Hi,
In order to prevent spaming, is there something better than badmailfrom ?
Like : 'if header contain '*spamdomain.com' then put it to /dev/null' ?
Thank you !
_______________
Dimitri SZAJMAN
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.xon-xoff.fr
Victor Tavares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb/wrote:
> I know that qmail is really fast. Does anyone know/guess what makes
> Isocor's products "the fastest Internet messaging server in the world"
> while remaining "extremely hardware efficient"?
Hm, I guess comparision to sendmail and other full-bloated MTAs and
ignorance of qmail.
On the other hand, you could certainly speed up a qmail clone at the
cost of security and reliability. More hardware would be cheaper,
however. ;-)
--
Claus Andre Faerber <http://www.faerber.muc.de>
PGP: ID=1024/527CADCD FP=12 20 49 F3 E1 04 9E 9E 25 56 69 A5 C6 A0 C9 DC
Jan Stanik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb/wrote:
> Is it true, that qmail first received full message and then checks
> if it is deliverable? Is there any patch, or I am stupid and I need to
> patch myself?
Well, the problem is that qmail-smtpd does not alway know which (local)
addresses will be deliverable. Only qmail-send, qmail-lwspan and -local
have the permission to check for the existance of users, impersonate
that user (or alias) and check whether the address is deliverable.
Changing this without compromising qmail's security model is not
trivial.
--
Claus Andre Faerber <http://www.faerber.muc.de>
PGP: ID=1024/527CADCD FP=12 20 49 F3 E1 04 9E 9E 25 56 69 A5 C6 A0 C9 DC
Robbie Walker wrote:
> Also I just noticed that my message to you bounced... You should probably
> re-read the documentation for .qmail files and not try to use procmail yet
> until you get the rest of the system working. I can understand that the
> existing documentation may be difficult for a non English-first-language
> person. I'm sure many of us found the DENSE style difficult to parse at first.
>
> Hi. This is the qmail-send program at booms-edv.de.
> I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
> This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> preline: fatal: unable to run procmail: file does not exist
I restarted qmail with the boot/home script. I don't know the reason with
procmail.
It's right that I made a copy under a different name of procmail. Then I copied
procmail in a new version into the self locations where the renamed copies are.
I wonder about the message about procmail because I don't call it in the script.
>
>
> --- Below this line is a copy of the message.
>
> Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Received: (qmail 15718 invoked from network); 22 Sep 1999 20:19:27 -0000
> Received: from sauron.tpinter.net (HELO mail.tpinter.net) (208.25.246.2)
> by mail.booms-edv.de with SMTP; 22 Sep 1999 20:19:27 -0000
> Received: (qmail 26935 invoked from network); 22 Sep 1999 20:19:17 -0000
> Received: from workstation2.novamet.com (208.25.246.131)
> by mail.tpinter.net with SMTP; 22 Sep 1999 20:19:17 -0000
> Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1
> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:19:13 -0400
> To: Thomas Booms EDV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> From: Robbie Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Need help!
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> At 04:19 PM 9/22/99 , you wrote:
> >That's wrong... mailbox is like so in .qmail './Mailbox' there's no
> >trailing slash. trailing slash stands for Maildir.
> >
> >At 04:14 PM 9/22/99 , you wrote:
> >>David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thomas Booms EDV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 22 September 1999
> >>at 21:57:04 +0200
> >>>
> >>> > > >I restarted qmail-send and
> >>> > > >postings to the domain are logged with the syslog entry "... delivery
> >>> > > >50: deferral: unable_to_find_alias_user!/".
> >>>
> >>> > virtualdomains:
> >>> > Virtual domain: booms-edv.de:Thomas.Booms
> >>> > Virtual domain: www.1areisen.de:yildiz
> >>> > Virtual domain: allianz-bau.de:stockhau
> >>> > Virtual domain: 1asonne.de:stockhau
> >>>
> >>> Okay; now, to what exact email address was the message that generated
> >>> that error message addressed?
> >>
> >>www.1areisen.de. The user you see is "yildiz". He exists as a real user on
> >>my system, means
> >>stands in /etc/passwd.
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Say it was to [EMAIL PROTECTED]; my next question will be, is there
> >>> a user stockhau in your /etc/passwd file (since that's the controlling
> >>> user for the virtual domain 1asonne.de.
> >>
> >>> And is there a .qmail-default
> >>> file, or a .qmail-somebody file, in ~stockhau?
> >>
> >>No. Only a .qmail file with the entry "./Mailbox/" so like the documentation
> >>tolds me.
> >>
> >>Thomas
> >>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> David Dyer-Bennet ***NOTE ADDRESS CHANGES*** [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/ (photos) Minicon:
> http://www.mnstf.org/minicon
> >>> http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b (sf) http://ouroboros.demesne.com/ Ouroboros
> >>Bookworms
> >>> Join the 20th century before it's too late!
> >>
> >
> >
> >______________________
> >NovaMetrix Development
> >Robbie Walker, AMWL
> >
> >P.O. Box 635 or 910-653-4006
> >106-B S. Main St 800-773-5647
> >Tabor City, NC 28463 910-653-2052 FAX
> >
> >
>
> ______________________
> NovaMetrix Development
> Robbie Walker, AMWL
>
> P.O. Box 635 or 910-653-4006
> 106-B S. Main St 800-773-5647
> Tabor City, NC 28463 910-653-2052 FAX
David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
> Thomas Booms EDV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 22 September 1999 at 22:14:03
>+0200
> > David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
> >
> > > Thomas Booms EDV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 22 September 1999 at
>21:57:04 +0200
> > >
> > > > > >I restarted qmail-send and
> > > > > >postings to the domain are logged with the syslog entry "... delivery
> > > > > >50: deferral: unable_to_find_alias_user!/".
> > >
> > > > virtualdomains:
> > > > Virtual domain: booms-edv.de:Thomas.Booms
> > > > Virtual domain: www.1areisen.de:yildiz
> > > > Virtual domain: allianz-bau.de:stockhau
> > > > Virtual domain: 1asonne.de:stockhau
> > >
> > > Okay; now, to what exact email address was the message that generated
> > > that error message addressed?
> >
> > www.1areisen.de. The user you see is "yildiz". He exists as a real user on my
>system, means
> > stands in /etc/passwd.
>
> Okay so far. I'm now wondering if I'm off on the wrong branch of the
> debug tree, though; the error message seems to say it *couldn't* find
> the alias user, but we just did. Still, let's run down to the bottom
> just to see.
>
> What *user* at www.1areisen.de was the test email addressed to?
yildiz.
> Let's
> say it's user fred (that is, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>); then the local
> delivery that will result is to yildiz-fred.
I don't understand this. Why yildiz-fred? I thought it's called .qmail-yildiz or so.
My brain works... :))
That means if I send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] then I have to make an .qmail-buchung,
right? But this
exists since the time I tried to mail to this address. Do I have to make an
.qmail-yildiz-buchung
file? I think so because a few lines earlier you write something with fred...
> If user yildiz doesn't
> have either a .qmail-fred or a .qmail-default file in his home
> directory, then the delivery will fail.
The following files qmail-specific are in the home from yildiz:
.qmail
.qmail-buchung
.qmail-default (created a few minutes before)
> (I don't think it will fail
> with the error message given, though, which is bugging me).
>
> > > Say it was to [EMAIL PROTECTED]; my next question will be, is there
> > > a user stockhau in your /etc/passwd file (since that's the controlling
> > > user for the virtual domain 1asonne.de.
> >
> > > And is there a .qmail-default
> > > file, or a .qmail-somebody file, in ~stockhau?
> >
> > No. Only a .qmail file with the entry "./Mailbox/" so like the documentation
>tolds me.
>
> You've probably already seen the message from another user pointing
> out that the trailing slash is for maildir format, not for mailbox
> format. I don't think that could be the underlying cause of your
> error message either, though.
> --
> David Dyer-Bennet ***NOTE ADDRESS CHANGES*** [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/ (photos) Minicon: http://www.mnstf.org/minicon
> http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b (sf) http://ouroboros.demesne.com/ Ouroboros Bookworms
> Join the 20th century before it's too late!
Robbie Walker wrote:
> Also I just noticed that my message to you bounced... You should probably
> re-read the documentation for .qmail files and not try to use procmail yet
> until you get the rest of the system working. I can understand that the
> existing documentation may be difficult for a non English-first-language
> person. I'm sure many of us found the DENSE style difficult to parse at first.
>
> Hi. This is the qmail-send program at booms-edv.de.
> I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
> This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> preline: fatal: unable to run procmail: file does not exist
This problem is solved. It was standing in ~user/.qmail.
>
>
> --- Below this line is a copy of the message.
>
> Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Received: (qmail 15718 invoked from network); 22 Sep 1999 20:19:27 -0000
> Received: from sauron.tpinter.net (HELO mail.tpinter.net) (208.25.246.2)
> by mail.booms-edv.de with SMTP; 22 Sep 1999 20:19:27 -0000
> Received: (qmail 26935 invoked from network); 22 Sep 1999 20:19:17 -0000
> Received: from workstation2.novamet.com (208.25.246.131)
> by mail.tpinter.net with SMTP; 22 Sep 1999 20:19:17 -0000
> Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1
> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:19:13 -0400
> To: Thomas Booms EDV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> From: Robbie Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Need help!
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> At 04:19 PM 9/22/99 , you wrote:
> >That's wrong... mailbox is like so in .qmail './Mailbox' there's no
> >trailing slash. trailing slash stands for Maildir.
> >
> >At 04:14 PM 9/22/99 , you wrote:
> >>David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thomas Booms EDV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 22 September 1999
> >>at 21:57:04 +0200
> >>>
> >>> > > >I restarted qmail-send and
> >>> > > >postings to the domain are logged with the syslog entry "... delivery
> >>> > > >50: deferral: unable_to_find_alias_user!/".
> >>>
> >>> > virtualdomains:
> >>> > Virtual domain: booms-edv.de:Thomas.Booms
> >>> > Virtual domain: www.1areisen.de:yildiz
> >>> > Virtual domain: allianz-bau.de:stockhau
> >>> > Virtual domain: 1asonne.de:stockhau
> >>>
> >>> Okay; now, to what exact email address was the message that generated
> >>> that error message addressed?
> >>
> >>www.1areisen.de. The user you see is "yildiz". He exists as a real user on
> >>my system, means
> >>stands in /etc/passwd.
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Say it was to [EMAIL PROTECTED]; my next question will be, is there
> >>> a user stockhau in your /etc/passwd file (since that's the controlling
> >>> user for the virtual domain 1asonne.de.
> >>
> >>> And is there a .qmail-default
> >>> file, or a .qmail-somebody file, in ~stockhau?
> >>
> >>No. Only a .qmail file with the entry "./Mailbox/" so like the documentation
> >>tolds me.
> >>
> >>Thomas
> >>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> David Dyer-Bennet ***NOTE ADDRESS CHANGES*** [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/ (photos) Minicon:
> http://www.mnstf.org/minicon
> >>> http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b (sf) http://ouroboros.demesne.com/ Ouroboros
> >>Bookworms
> >>> Join the 20th century before it's too late!
> >>
> >
> >
> >______________________
> >NovaMetrix Development
> >Robbie Walker, AMWL
> >
> >P.O. Box 635 or 910-653-4006
> >106-B S. Main St 800-773-5647
> >Tabor City, NC 28463 910-653-2052 FAX
> >
> >
>
> ______________________
> NovaMetrix Development
> Robbie Walker, AMWL
>
> P.O. Box 635 or 910-653-4006
> 106-B S. Main St 800-773-5647
> Tabor City, NC 28463 910-653-2052 FAX
Thomas Booms EDV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 23 September 1999 at 13:40:47
+0200
> David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
> > What *user* at www.1areisen.de was the test email addressed to?
>
> yildiz.
>
> > Let's
> > say it's user fred (that is, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>); then the local
> > delivery that will result is to yildiz-fred.
>
> I don't understand this. Why yildiz-fred? I thought it's called .qmail-yildiz or so.
There's an extra level because it's a virtual domain. The entry
www.1areisen.de:yildiz
in virtualdomains says that email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] should
be delivered locally to yildiz-somebody, which means it will be
controlled by the file ~yildiz/.qmail-somebody. yildiz is the
controlling user for the virtual domain www.1areisen.de.
So, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is delivered locally to
yildiz-yildiz, which means it's controlled by the file
~yildiz/.qmail-yildiz.
(I'm writing the filenames in a format bash and I think csh understand
-- when I say "~yildiz", I mean the home directory for user yildiz.
Sorry if this is already clear to you; I'm never sure what level of
"obviousness" will be offensive vs. what level will help make things
clear.)
> My brain works... :))
And a darned good thing, too.
> That means if I send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] then I have to make an
> .qmail-buchung, right? But this exists since the time I tried to
> mail to this address. Do I have to make an .qmail-yildiz-buchung
> file? I think so because a few lines earlier you write something
> with fred...
First thing I see is that there is no virtual domain for 1aseisen.de
in your list of virtual domains. Did you just abbreviate the address
for your example? There's a virtual www.1areisen.de, but no virtual
1areisen.de on the list you posted. (Again, this mistake wouldn't
cause the error you reported, I don't think.)
So, assuming you mean [EMAIL PROTECTED], that would be
controlled by ~yildiz/.qmail-buchung. You say it exists -- does it
exist in the home directory of user yildiz?
(And I'm skipping mention of the .qmail-default possibility, to keep
the discussion simpler.)
> > If user yildiz doesn't
> > have either a .qmail-fred or a .qmail-default file in his home
> > directory, then the delivery will fail.
>
> The following files qmail-specific are in the home from yildiz:
> .qmail
> .qmail-buchung
> .qmail-default (created a few minutes before)
With this setup, mail to yildiz on the *native* domain (not any of the
virtuals) will be hanled by .qmail, and mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] will be handled by .qmail-buchung, and mail to
anybody else in www.1areisen.de will be handled by .qmail-default.
And make sure, if you want mailbox delivery, that the delivery
instructions in the .qmail files do not end in a slash; the slash
means it's a path to a mailDIR.
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On Wed, 22 Sep 1999, Glenn Crownover wrote:
> Is it possible to use qmail-popup without using the Maildir format? I
The answer (i believe) is simple: 'no'.
> am trying to use $HOME/Mailbox for mail and gather my remotely via
> POP-3, but I keep getting the message:
[boring error message cutted out]
I think that is more safe and reliable use the Maildir format and
make some wrappers arround your MUA's to convert the maildir to mailbox
on-the-fly.
In a general line:
Using pine as a MUA, built a shell script like this:
#!/bin/sh
# see more details in the maildir2mbox manpage.
MAILDIR=~/Maildir/
MAIL=~/Mailbox
MAILTMP=~/Temp_mailbox
/var/qmail/bin/maildir2mailbox
exec pine
This will convert maildir format to mailbox (and let pine read
it). This also solve your problem with the qmail-popup.
It's obvious that if you have only pop/Imap clents you *must*
convert to Maildir. It's easy and painless.
:-)
Keep trying.
Good look.
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System Administrator at ECB -- Escola Paulista de Medicina
"I believe that every human has a finite number of heartbeats. I don't
intend to waste any of mine running around doing exercises."
-- Neil Armstrong
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On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote:
> It's obvious that if you have only pop/Imap clents you *must*
> convert to Maildir. It's easy and painless.
Now that's not entirely accurate. If you want to use qmail's pop3d
then you need to use maildir format. If you prefer to use mbox format
mailboxes you can use qpopper and for imap you can use uw's or any
number of other imapds. There's a patch on www.qmail.org for qpopper
v2.53 to work with qmail - it's a rather minor patch.
Vince.
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On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote:
> > It's obvious that if you have only pop/Imap clents you *must*
> > convert to Maildir. It's easy and painless.
> Now that's not entirely accurate. If you want to use qmail's pop3d
> then you need to use maildir format. If you prefer to use mbox format
> mailboxes you can use qpopper and for imap you can use uw's or any
> number of other imapds. There's a patch on www.qmail.org for qpopper
> v2.53 to work with qmail - it's a rather minor patch.
Ooops! Thank you very much for the correction, Vince.
Sorry for the confusing information...
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Luis Campos de Carvalho
System Administrator at ECB -- Escola Paulista de Medicina
"I believe that every human has a finite number of heartbeats. I don't
intend to waste any of mine running around doing exercises."
-- Neil Armstrong
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"Stephen Lavelle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>My problem has come after the build when I want to do
>./config-fast the.full.hostname
>I have a dial up connection to my isp and a dynamic IP address. I wish to
>set up:
>fetchmail to collect my mail from isp mailbox (several accounts such as
>[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc)
>then my windows boxes will point their mua at qmail (with netscape
>messenger)
>to get their mail at their workstation.
>
>So my Linux box does not have the.full.hostname - only a name ("my name")
This is exactly what I do at home. I use a local nameserver (built
into my 3com lanmodem) and put my systems in a "fake" domain. E.g., my
Linux box is called "sparge", and its FQDN is "sparge.sill". Don't use
the fake domain in messages outside your local network.
-Dave
Sorry if I missed this in the archives ...
I want to send a lot of personalized mail a little more efficiently to
a group of users which aren't on a mailing list (monthly billing advice,
actually).
To send a single message, I can do "qmail-inject <message",
where message has both header and body.
I would like to do the same thing for a batch, e.g. "qmail-inject <batch",
where batch is a sequence of messages delimitd by, say, '^\' (the
ASCII "file separator" character).
My current approach is to parse the batch file, write a temporary file,
spawn a script which injects the file, truncate the file, and repeat.
This works but is a little slow because closing the temporary file
flushes to disk, because qmail-inject and the shell to interpret the
script are repeatedly spawned, etc. If qmail-inject could simply
loop over the batch, all this could be eliminated.
I am tempted to add a loop for this but am unsure of any possible
repercussions. I'd also entertain formatting the batch as per SMTP
and giving it to qmail-queue if that is easier.
Any comments?
On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Chuck R. Combs wrote:
You could try make a perl script to do it.
I'll have a scketch for you in a few minutes.
> Sorry if I missed this in the archives ...
>
> I want to send a lot of personalized mail a little more efficiently to
> a group of users which aren't on a mailing list (monthly billing advice,
> actually).
>
> To send a single message, I can do "qmail-inject <message",
> where message has both header and body.
>
> I would like to do the same thing for a batch, e.g. "qmail-inject <batch",
> where batch is a sequence of messages delimitd by, say, '^\' (the
> ASCII "file separator" character).
>
> My current approach is to parse the batch file, write a temporary file,
> spawn a script which injects the file, truncate the file, and repeat.
>
> This works but is a little slow because closing the temporary file
> flushes to disk, because qmail-inject and the shell to interpret the
> script are repeatedly spawned, etc. If qmail-inject could simply
> loop over the batch, all this could be eliminated.
>
> I am tempted to add a loop for this but am unsure of any possible
> repercussions. I'd also entertain formatting the batch as per SMTP
> and giving it to qmail-queue if that is easier.
>
> Any comments?
>
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Luis Campos de Carvalho
System Administrator at ECB -- Escola Paulista de Medicina
"I believe that every human has a finite number of heartbeats. I don't
intend to waste any of mine running around doing exercises."
-- Neil Armstrong
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I am setting up a web site that will generate customized daily mail messages
for subscribers. In other words, we will be sending different messages to
each person, rather than bulk-mailing the same message to many people. I
would like to hear from qmail experts on these questions:
1. How much hardware? Initially we want enough capacity to deliver a
million mails a day. We plan to use a series of Linux boxes, and multiplex
the messages across them. How many will we need, and how powerful?
2. Is qmail the right choice, or should we use Postfix? My impression is
that qmail's VERPs will let us handle the inevitable flood of bounces more
effectively, but that Postfix is more efficient. What are people's
experiences in this regard?
Thanks in advance,
Luke Blanshard
"Luke Blanshard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>1. How much hardware? Initially we want enough capacity to deliver a
>million mails a day. We plan to use a series of Linux boxes, and multiplex
>the messages across them. How many will we need, and how powerful?
A million a day is just shy of 12/second, which isn't that staggering
a load. I often hit 20/second on my list server, an old 2-cpu
Alphaserver 2100 that's also ORNL's news server. Modern PC hardware
(300 MHz+) with good SCSI disks for the queue and dedicated to sending
mail should have no problem with that. Two such boxes would probably
be overkill, but it'd be nice to have a spare (or get the messages out
twice as fast).
>2. Is qmail the right choice, or should we use Postfix?
Either would probably do the job, but I'm partial to qmail.
>My impression is
>that qmail's VERPs will let us handle the inevitable flood of bounces more
>effectively,
VERP's will be a big win.
>but that Postfix is more efficient.
Given that each of your messages is unique, I'm not sure Postfix would
be more efficient. Also, a comprehensive MTA benchmark (see
http://www.kyoto.wide.ad.jp/mta/eval1/ *) shows that qmail generally
has the edge in performance over Postfix.
-Dave
* Yes, it's in Japanese, but the results graphs are in English.
On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 10:35:04 -0500, Luke Blanshard wrote:
>1. How much hardware? Initially we want enough capacity to deliver a
>million mails a day. We plan to use a series of Linux boxes, and multiplex
>the messages across them. How many will we need, and how powerful?
With a Pentium 133/64MB/SCSI (1 or 2) we do 20-30 messages/s with real
life ezmlm lists. These particular data are for a list with recipients
all over the world. The server is not fully loaded with lists, but
should be able to sustain this. Bounces are handled by a different
host. Performance seems to be more of less the same using EIDE.
-Sincerely, Fred
(Frederik Lindberg, Infectious Diseases, WashU, St. Louis, MO, USA)
This is showing up in my messages file.
Sep 22 19:56:03 dns2 inetd[353]: pop-3/tcp server failing (looping), service
terminated
Any clues?
J.P. Racine
Thot Networks
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> This is showing up in my messages file.
>
> Sep 22 19:56:03 dns2 inetd[353]: pop-3/tcp server failing (looping),
> service terminated
>
> Any clues?
Shoot inetd, get tcpserver. inetd thinks it's important, sees
connections being opened too fast (in its opinion), and chokes
pop3.
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"J.P. Racine" wrote:
>
> This is showing up in my messages file.
>
> Sep 22 19:56:03 dns2 inetd[353]: pop-3/tcp server failing (looping), service
> terminated
>
> Any clues?
>
> J.P. Racine
> Thot Networks
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Don't use inetd, use tcpserver
Ken
Inter7
Hi all,
in the FAQ under 5.4 stands something with tcp wrappers, available
separately, including hosts_options.
Where can I find it? And under which names? Maybe qmail.org?
Thanks
Thomas
On Thu, Sep 23, 1999 at 07:19:40PM +0200, Thomas Booms EDV wrote:
} Hi all,
}
} in the FAQ under 5.4 stands something with tcp wrappers, available
} separately, including hosts_options.
}
} Where can I find it? And under which names? Maybe qmail.org?
<ftp://ftp.porcupine.org/pub/security/index.html>
}
} Thanks
}
} Thomas
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In most modern Unices you'll edit /etc/man.config instead. No need to rely on
environment variables.
Bill Parker wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I just had a brain lock, where does one modify the MANPATH variable so
> that it is good system wide, and not for each user individually?
>
> -Bill
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Hi,
the user exists on the system and stands in users/assign. Further I've
made qmail-newu.
Receiving mails is running from one system but on another not.
What tips do you have to check?
Thomas
Thomas Booms EDV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>the user exists on the system and stands in users/assign. Further I've
>made qmail-newu.
What user?
>Receiving mails is running from one system but on another not.
You mean the system accepts mail from one system, but not another? Or
you have two systems, and one accepts remote mail and the other
doesn't?
>What tips do you have to check?
I realize there's a language barrier here, but you really aren't
providing enough information. The subject is "Authorization
failed". What does that mean? Is that an error message you received?
If so, where did it come from?
You've given us five pieces of a 100 piece puzzle. We can't possibly
solve it.
-Dave
Hi Dave,
Dave Sill wrote:
> Thomas Booms EDV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >the user exists on the system and stands in users/assign. Further I've
> >made qmail-newu.
>
> What user?
It's an local user on a system in the internet.
>
>
> >Receiving mails is running from one system but on another not.
>
> You mean the system accepts mail from one system, but not another? Or
> you have two systems, and one accepts remote mail and the other
> doesn't?
There's one server on which runs qmail. Clients should get mails from the
server. On one account there's no problem to get the mails, on the other I
get an "Authorization failed" message box. The server is a linux box, the
clients are linux and windows.
>
>
> >What tips do you have to check?
>
> I realize there's a language barrier here, but you really aren't
> providing enough information. The subject is "Authorization
> failed". What does that mean? Is that an error message you received?
Yes.
>
> If so, where did it come from?
>From Netscape 4.6 running under win 98.
>
>
> You've given us five pieces of a 100 piece puzzle. We can't possibly
> solve it.
>
> -Dave
If you need further information, let me know.
Thomas
Thomas Booms EDV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>There's one server on which runs qmail. Clients should get mails from the
>server. On one account there's no problem to get the mails, on the other I
>get an "Authorization failed" message box. The server is a linux box, the
>clients are linux and windows.
Is Netscape using POP to access the server?
If so, which POP daemon are you using?
Are you *sure* the failing user is entering the right password? No
caps lock problem?
Can the user authenticate by telnetting to the pop3 port and entering
the username and password manually?
-Dave
Dave Sill wrote:
> Thomas Booms EDV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >There's one server on which runs qmail. Clients should get mails from the
> >server. On one account there's no problem to get the mails, on the other I
> >get an "Authorization failed" message box. The server is a linux box, the
> >clients are linux and windows.
>
> Is Netscape using POP to access the server?
>
> If so, which POP daemon are you using?
>
> Are you *sure* the failing user is entering the right password? No
> caps lock problem?
>
> Can the user authenticate by telnetting to the pop3 port and entering
> the username and password manually?
>
> -Dave
Hi Dave,
1st best thanks for your helping questions.
The problem is solved.
I forgot to set in /etc/passwd the home directory of the user.
The user just tooks all his mails a few minutes ago.
Thomas
I am trying to set qmail up on my linux box and have a quick question on
the contents of /var/qmail/boot, namely what config (binm1,2,proc,etc.) is
best, or namely what is the benefits/problems with each? I have been
warned not to use the /var/spool/mail/$USER format for it is too unsecure,
comments?
thanks in advance
-frank
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Franklin A Hays <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am trying to set qmail up on my linux box and have a quick question on
>the contents of /var/qmail/boot, namely what config (binm1,2,proc,etc.) is
>best, or namely what is the benefits/problems with each? I have been
>warned not to use the /var/spool/mail/$USER format for it is too unsecure,
>comments?
The safest choice is delivering to $HOME/Mailbox, an mbox-format
mailbox. It avoids the central spool and it's associated security
problems, but retains the mbox format that most mail user agents
(MUA)'s expect. $HOME/Maildir/, a maildir-format mailbox, is arguably
superior, but suffers from limited MUA support.
See also:
http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#rc
-Dave
Is an '=' an illegal character in an email
address?
I am running qmail-1.03 on two diferent machines
and all seems to work well (indide and out) I
have also installed ezmlm on one...
I send a message to subscribe and get a response
from ezmlm withe the authorization message that
has a huge email address that contains 1 equal
symbol.
When I try to reply to this my qmail (without the
ezmlm) tells me that the address contains illegal
characters...
Testing different addresses I have determined
that it is the = that it is having trouble with...
(it dosen't make it to the machine with ezmlm,
which is why I am asking on the qmail-list
instead of the ezmlm list *wink*)
Any help appreciated..
Wil.
(BTW, I used to be a devout sendmailist, but I
will never look at it again! Qmail is the best!)
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Is an '=' an illegal character in an email
>address?
Yes.
>I send a message to subscribe and get a response
>from ezmlm withe the authorization message that
>has a huge email address that contains 1 equal
>symbol.
This is normal, and works perfectly well with qmail and other MTA's.
>When I try to reply to this my qmail (without the
>ezmlm) tells me that the address contains illegal
>characters...
What tells you that? Your MUA? Certainly not qmail. What was the exact
error message?
-Dave
It's NOT qmail that is saying that. What MUA are you using? An '=' is a
perfectly valid character in an email address.
On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Is an '=' an illegal character in an email
> address?
>
> I am running qmail-1.03 on two diferent machines
> and all seems to work well (indide and out) I
> have also installed ezmlm on one...
>
> I send a message to subscribe and get a response
> from ezmlm withe the authorization message that
> has a huge email address that contains 1 equal
> symbol.
>
> When I try to reply to this my qmail (without the
> ezmlm) tells me that the address contains illegal
> characters...
> Testing different addresses I have determined
> that it is the = that it is having trouble with...
>
> (it dosen't make it to the machine with ezmlm,
> which is why I am asking on the qmail-list
> instead of the ezmlm list *wink*)
>
> Any help appreciated..
>
> Wil.
>
> (BTW, I used to be a devout sendmailist, but I
> will never look at it again! Qmail is the best!)
>
>
>
>
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Senior Systems Administrator
localconnect(sm)
http://www.localconnect.net/
The National Business Network Inc. http://www.nb.net/
One Monroeville Center, Suite 850
Monroeville, PA 15146
(412) 810-8888 Phone
(412) 810-8886 Fax
I wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>Is an '=' an illegal character in an email
>>address?
>
>Yes.
I meant "no", of course. I read that as "a legal character".
'=' *is* legal.
-Dave
Ah, but it is qmail that is saying that...
(I did forget to mention in my last message that
I have also applied the LDAP ppatches to the
qmail that is giving me the error, so maybe it is
related to the ldap patch..)
Here is the EXACT error... (taken from syslog)
qmail: 938088096.105507 delivery 728: failure:
Receipient_email_address_contains_illegal_characte
rs./
> It's NOT qmail that is saying that. What MUA
are you using? An '=' is a
> perfectly valid character in an email address.
>
> On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Is an '=' an illegal character in an email
> > address?
> >
> > I am running qmail-1.03 on two diferent
machines
> > and all seems to work well (indide and out) I
> > have also installed ezmlm on one...
> >
> > I send a message to subscribe and get a
response
> > from ezmlm withe the authorization message
that
> > has a huge email address that contains 1
equal
> > symbol.
> >
> > When I try to reply to this my qmail (without
the
> > ezmlm) tells me that the address contains
illegal
> > characters...
> > Testing different addresses I have determined
> > that it is the = that it is having trouble
with...
> >
> > (it dosen't make it to the machine with
ezmlm,
> > which is why I am asking on the qmail-list
> > instead of the ezmlm list *wink*)
> >
> > Any help appreciated..
> >
> > Wil.
> >
> > (BTW, I used to be a devout sendmailist, but
I
> > will never look at it again! Qmail is the
best!)
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > http://www.imag.net/
> >
> >
> >
>
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> Senior Systems Administrator
> localconnect(sm)
> http://www.localconnect.net/
>
> The National Business Network Inc.
http://www.nb.net/
> One Monroeville Center, Suite 850
> Monroeville, PA 15146
> (412) 810-8888 Phone
> (412) 810-8886 Fax
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> From: Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 14:41:21 -0400 (EDT)
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >Is an '=' an illegal character in an email
> >address?
>
> Yes.
Dave, don't you mean "No".
Chris
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Ah, but it is qmail that is saying that...
> (I did forget to mention in my last message that
> I have also applied the LDAP ppatches to the
> qmail that is giving me the error, so maybe it is
> related to the ldap patch..)
Ahh! This then should be discussed on the qmail-ldap list:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Here is the EXACT error... (taken from syslog)
>
> qmail: 938088096.105507 delivery 728: failure:
> Receipient_email_address_contains_illegal_characte
> rs./
For qmail-ldap an "=" (equal sign) is illegal because it would fuck
up the ldap search which uses "=" too. The same for "*" and other
special characters.
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Then the problem is with qmail-ldap NOT qmail. Please post your question
to that list and you may get a more helpful set of responses. :)
On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Ah, but it is qmail that is saying that...
> (I did forget to mention in my last message that
> I have also applied the LDAP ppatches to the
> qmail that is giving me the error, so maybe it is
> related to the ldap patch..)
>
> Here is the EXACT error... (taken from syslog)
>
> qmail: 938088096.105507 delivery 728: failure:
> Receipient_email_address_contains_illegal_characte
> rs./
>
>
>
>
> > It's NOT qmail that is saying that. What MUA
> are you using? An '=' is a
> > perfectly valid character in an email address.
> >
> > On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > Is an '=' an illegal character in an email
> > > address?
> > >
> > > I am running qmail-1.03 on two diferent
> machines
> > > and all seems to work well (indide and out) I
> > > have also installed ezmlm on one...
> > >
> > > I send a message to subscribe and get a
> response
> > > from ezmlm withe the authorization message
> that
> > > has a huge email address that contains 1
> equal
> > > symbol.
> > >
> > > When I try to reply to this my qmail (without
> the
> > > ezmlm) tells me that the address contains
> illegal
> > > characters...
> > > Testing different addresses I have determined
> > > that it is the = that it is having trouble
> with...
> > >
> > > (it dosen't make it to the machine with
> ezmlm,
> > > which is why I am asking on the qmail-list
> > > instead of the ezmlm list *wink*)
> > >
> > > Any help appreciated..
> > >
> > > Wil.
> > >
> > > (BTW, I used to be a devout sendmailist, but
> I
> > > will never look at it again! Qmail is the
> best!)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------
> > > This message was sent using Imaginet WebMail.
> > > http://www.imag.net/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Timothy L. Mayo
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Senior Systems Administrator
> > localconnect(sm)
> > http://www.localconnect.net/
> >
> > The National Business Network Inc.
> http://www.nb.net/
> > One Monroeville Center, Suite 850
> > Monroeville, PA 15146
> > (412) 810-8888 Phone
> > (412) 810-8886 Fax
> >
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------
> This message was sent using Imaginet WebMail.
> http://www.imag.net/
>
>
>
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Timothy L. Mayo mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Senior Systems Administrator
localconnect(sm)
http://www.localconnect.net/
The National Business Network Inc. http://www.nb.net/
One Monroeville Center, Suite 850
Monroeville, PA 15146
(412) 810-8888 Phone
(412) 810-8886 Fax
On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 21:37:15 +0200, Andre Oppermann wrote:
>> qmail: 938088096.105507 delivery 728: failure:
>> Receipient_email_address_contains_illegal_characte
>> rs./
>
>For qmail-ldap an "=" (equal sign) is illegal because it would fuck
>up the ldap search which uses "=" too. The same for "*" and other
>special characters.
Outch! So no ezmlm lists and no VERP (at least the standard version)
with qmail-ldap. Is there no quoting mechanism for the LDAP lookups? I
assume it affects only addresses local to the machine/domain.
-Sincerely, Fred
(Frederik Lindberg, Infectious Diseases, WashU, St. Louis, MO, USA)
Fred Lindberg wrote:
>
> On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 21:37:15 +0200, Andre Oppermann wrote:
>
> >> qmail: 938088096.105507 delivery 728: failure:
> >> Receipient_email_address_contains_illegal_characte
> >> rs./
> >
> >For qmail-ldap an "=" (equal sign) is illegal because it would fuck
> >up the ldap search which uses "=" too. The same for "*" and other
> >special characters.
>
> Outch! So no ezmlm lists and no VERP (at least the standard version)
> with qmail-ldap. Is there no quoting mechanism for the LDAP lookups?
Yes, outch! In new qmail-ldap (unreleased) is a quoting mechanism
but the last time I checked it was only supported by OpenLDAP-devel.
OpenLDAP-stable does (did) not support quoting or escaping. Some
weeks ago I filed a bug report with them, upon that it went into
-devel.
> I
> assume it affects only addresses local to the machine/domain.
Yes, only local addresses.
--
Andre
Hi again. I have managed to get tcpserver to work with my qmail installation and am
now testing relaying.
I have set up tcpserver to allow from 212.:
which is the group of IPs my ISP uses.
In my rcpthosts are local domains.
I first tried a message to a remote host which was refused saying this is not in my
list
of allowed rcpthosts. I checked my assigned IP and it began with 212. I messed
about for a while before deleting the rcpthosts file. Now qmail is accepting the
mails
with no error message but they aren't coming out the other end. My computer does
not have a DNS server locally but I do have access to a lan one. Does this have
something to do with it? Any help gratefully received.
cheers
--
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Reply to <-marek @ intercreations . com->
"People in glass houses seldom throw parties"
David Devant and his Spirit Wife
Miscellaneous
Marek Narkiewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have set up tcpserver to allow from 212.:
>which is the group of IPs my ISP uses.
That's not good enough. You also need to set the RELAYCLIENT
environment variable. Let's see your tcp.smtp file.
>I first tried a message to a remote host which was refused saying
>this is not in my list of allowed rcpthosts.
That's proof that RELAYCLIENT isn't being set.
>I checked my assigned IP and it began with 212. I messed about for a
>while before deleting the rcpthosts file. Now qmail is accepting the
>mails with no error message but they aren't coming out the other end.
How do you know that? What to the logs show?
-Dave
> Hi again. I have managed to get tcpserver to work with my qmail
installation and am
> now testing relaying.
> I have set up tcpserver to allow from 212.:
How? Is the line in your tcp.smtp file like the following?
212.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> I first tried a message to a remote host which was refused saying this is
not in my list
> of allowed rcpthosts.
Well if your file tcp.smtp.cdb is not correctly written from the correct
smtp.tcp then you'll always run into trouble.
(I use the parameter -x/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb in the startupscript of tcpserver
for qmail-smtp)
> I checked my assigned IP and it began with 212. I messed
> about for a while before deleting the rcpthosts file.
>Now qmail is accepting the mails with no error message
Whenever you delete the rcpthosts file you open your host as an open relay!
Of course it doesn't complain.
>but they aren't coming out the other end. My computer does
> not have a DNS server locally but I do have access to a lan one. Does
this have
> something to do with it?
IMHO it shouldn't. But I'm not too sure about that.
How do I subscribe to the QMAIL-LDAP list. Is there a list of other QMAIL
lists?
"Timothy L. Mayo" wrote:
> Then the problem is with qmail-ldap NOT qmail. Please post your question
> to that list and you may get a more helpful set of responses. :)
>
> On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Ah, but it is qmail that is saying that...
> > (I did forget to mention in my last message that
> > I have also applied the LDAP ppatches to the
> > qmail that is giving me the error, so maybe it is
> > related to the ldap patch..)
> >
> > Here is the EXACT error... (taken from syslog)
> >
> > qmail: 938088096.105507 delivery 728: failure:
> > Receipient_email_address_contains_illegal_characte
> > rs./
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > It's NOT qmail that is saying that. What MUA
> > are you using? An '=' is a
> > > perfectly valid character in an email address.
> > >
> > > On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > > Is an '=' an illegal character in an email
> > > > address?
> > > >
> > > > I am running qmail-1.03 on two diferent
> > machines
> > > > and all seems to work well (indide and out) I
> > > > have also installed ezmlm on one...
> > > >
> > > > I send a message to subscribe and get a
> > response
> > > > from ezmlm withe the authorization message
> > that
> > > > has a huge email address that contains 1
> > equal
> > > > symbol.
> > > >
> > > > When I try to reply to this my qmail (without
> > the
> > > > ezmlm) tells me that the address contains
> > illegal
> > > > characters...
> > > > Testing different addresses I have determined
> > > > that it is the = that it is having trouble
> > with...
> > > >
> > > > (it dosen't make it to the machine with
> > ezmlm,
> > > > which is why I am asking on the qmail-list
> > > > instead of the ezmlm list *wink*)
> > > >
> > > > Any help appreciated..
> > > >
> > > > Wil.
> > > >
> > > > (BTW, I used to be a devout sendmailist, but
> > I
> > > > will never look at it again! Qmail is the
> > best!)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ---------------------------------------------
> > > > This message was sent using Imaginet WebMail.
> > > > http://www.imag.net/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > Timothy L. Mayo
> > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Senior Systems Administrator
> > > localconnect(sm)
> > > http://www.localconnect.net/
> > >
> > > The National Business Network Inc.
> > http://www.nb.net/
> > > One Monroeville Center, Suite 850
> > > Monroeville, PA 15146
> > > (412) 810-8888 Phone
> > > (412) 810-8886 Fax
> > >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------
> > This message was sent using Imaginet WebMail.
> > http://www.imag.net/
> >
> >
> >
>
> ---------------------------------
> Timothy L. Mayo mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Senior Systems Administrator
> localconnect(sm)
> http://www.localconnect.net/
>
> The National Business Network Inc. http://www.nb.net/
> One Monroeville Center, Suite 850
> Monroeville, PA 15146
> (412) 810-8888 Phone
> (412) 810-8886 Fax
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314-316-9200 fax
On 9/23/99 at 3:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Schmerold) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) had the
thought:
> How do I subscribe to the QMAIL-LDAP list. Is there a list of other QMAIL
> lists?
This should have everything you need:
From: http://www.nrg4u.com/ (the only LDAP link off the qmail.org page)
A mailing list for discussion of this patch is avail, send mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Almost running smooth as silk here! Just one last thing...
What is the recommended replacement in a qmail environment (using
Maildir now!) for /bin/mail? I have cron jobs wanting to use it (among
many other apps).
Thanks a bunch!
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On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Glenn Crownover wrote:
> Almost running smooth as silk here! Just one last thing...
>
> What is the recommended replacement in a qmail environment (using
> Maildir now!) for /bin/mail? I have cron jobs wanting to use it (among
> many other apps).
I don't remember for sure what's the real utility of /bin/mail.
I'm guessing that you want to send mails.
The program that you must use is /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject.
There is a nice man page about it.
Please somebody confirm this for me.
Thank you a lot.
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Luis Campos de Carvalho
System Administrator at ECB -- Escola Paulista de Medicina
"I believe that every human has a finite number of heartbeats. I don't
intend to waste any of mine running around doing exercises."
-- Neil Armstrong
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
On 9/23/99 at 5:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luis Campos de Carvalho)
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) had the thought:
> On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Glenn Crownover wrote:
>
> > Almost running smooth as silk here! Just one last thing...
> >
> > What is the recommended replacement in a qmail environment (using
> > Maildir now!) for /bin/mail? I have cron jobs wanting to use it (among
> > many other apps).
>
> I don't remember for sure what's the real utility of /bin/mail.
>
> I'm guessing that you want to send mails.
>
> The program that you must use is /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject.
> There is a nice man page about it.
>
> Please somebody confirm this for me.
>
> Thank you a lot.
I don't think you need to replace /bin/mail. I have a RedHat 5.2 box with
sendmail removed and /bin/mail works just fine with qmail. Did you remove
/bin/mail yourself? Is it not working now?
Pat
I had 'chmod'ed it to 0 per "REMOVE.binmail" (in <qmail>/doc) step 2, as part
of the INSTALL instructions.
Then I got this message from my cron job:
------------
23 Sep 04:02:01 ntpdate[29031]: step time server 192.6.38.127 offset 1.067004
sec
/usr/lib/news/bin/news.daily: /bin/mail: Permission denied
------------
Patrick Berry wrote:
> On 9/23/99 at 5:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luis Campos de Carvalho)
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) had the thought:
>
> > On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Glenn Crownover wrote:
> >
> > > Almost running smooth as silk here! Just one last thing...
> > >
> > > What is the recommended replacement in a qmail environment (using
> > > Maildir now!) for /bin/mail? I have cron jobs wanting to use it (among
> > > many other apps).
> >
> > I don't remember for sure what's the real utility of /bin/mail.
> >
> > I'm guessing that you want to send mails.
> >
> > The program that you must use is /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject.
> > There is a nice man page about it.
> >
> > Please somebody confirm this for me.
> >
> > Thank you a lot.
>
> I don't think you need to replace /bin/mail. I have a RedHat 5.2 box with
> sendmail removed and /bin/mail works just fine with qmail. Did you remove
> /bin/mail yourself? Is it not working now?
>
> Pat
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On 9/23/99 at 2:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Glenn Crownover) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
had the thought:
> I had 'chmod'ed it to 0 per "REMOVE.binmail" (in <qmail>/doc) step 2, as part
> of the INSTALL instructions.
>
> Then I got this message from my cron job:
>
> ------------
> 23 Sep 04:02:01 ntpdate[29031]: step time server 192.6.38.127 offset 1.067004
> sec
> /usr/lib/news/bin/news.daily: /bin/mail: Permission denied
> ------------
In the REMOVE.binmail file it just says to link it to a usable mailer. I looked
at the mail and mutt man page and they seemed to be command line compliant. I
would guess that most mailers are compliant that way. You could just symlink
/bin/mail to /usr/bin/mutt or whatever...
Another option is to leave sendmail on the system in conjunction with qmail, but
I doubt that is really necessary.
Pat
Patrick Berry wrote:
> On 9/23/99 at 5:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luis Campos de Carvalho)
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) had the thought:
>
> > On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Glenn Crownover wrote:
> >
> > > Almost running smooth as silk here! Just one last thing...
> > >
> > > What is the recommended replacement in a qmail environment (using
> > > Maildir now!) for /bin/mail? I have cron jobs wanting to use it (among
> > > many other apps).
> >
> > I don't remember for sure what's the real utility of /bin/mail.
> >
> > I'm guessing that you want to send mails.
> >
> > The program that you must use is /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject.
> > There is a nice man page about it.
> >
> > Please somebody confirm this for me.
> >
> > Thank you a lot.
>
> I don't think you need to replace /bin/mail. I have a RedHat 5.2 box with
> sendmail removed and /bin/mail works just fine with qmail. Did you remove
> /bin/mail yourself? Is it not working now?
/bin/mail requires sendmail, but it works with qmail's sendmail wrapper. Maybe
that's what Glenn didn't install (or installed wrongly).
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Actually I never tried to use /bin/mail with qmail because I was under the
impression that it would not work. I didn't know that it was a 'front-end' to
sendmail. I now have it linked to 'mutt' and that seems to be working fine.
(unless somebody knows some 'gotchya's with that setup! :-)
Thanks again all!
Juan Carlos Castro y Castro wrote:
> /bin/mail requires sendmail, but it works with qmail's sendmail wrapper. Maybe
> that's what Glenn didn't install (or installed wrongly).
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On Thu, Sep 23, 1999 at 03:46:50PM -0700, Glenn Crownover wrote:
> Actually I never tried to use /bin/mail with qmail because I was under the
> impression that it would not work. I didn't know that it was a 'front-end' to
> sendmail. I now have it linked to 'mutt' and that seems to be working fine.
> (unless somebody knows some 'gotchya's with that setup! :-)
Hello Glenn,
I use mutt all the time in my scripts. A big advantage is that you may
easily attach files with option ``-a'', very handy.
Regards
Mirko
I am installing qmail via Davids LWQ and was not able to find the
daemontools-0.53 package at the koobera.math.uic.edu ftp site. Is this
critical and if so where can I find it now.
Thanks in advance...
-frank
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On 9/23/99 at 3:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Franklin A Hays)
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) had the thought:
> I am installing qmail via Davids LWQ and was not able to find the
> daemontools-0.53 package at the koobera.math.uic.edu ftp site. Is this
> critical and if so where can I find it now.
>
> Thanks in advance...
> -frank
>
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daemontools have moved up a version. Since LWQ is written for use with 0.53 and
I found it easier to grab an rpm of daeomontools, but still do the regular qmail
source install.
For rpm links, check the very top of the qmail.org page for the binary links.
Pat
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It's at ftp://koobera.math.uic.edu/www/daemontools/daemontools-0.53.tar.gz
You will most likely need to use an FTP tool instead of a web browser to
see it.
On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Franklin A Hays wrote:
>
> I am installing qmail via Davids LWQ and was not able to find the
> daemontools-0.53 package at the koobera.math.uic.edu ftp site. Is this
> critical and if so where can I find it now.
>
> Thanks in advance...
> -frank
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Timothy L. Mayo mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Senior Systems Administrator
localconnect(sm)
http://www.localconnect.net/
The National Business Network Inc. http://www.nb.net/
One Monroeville Center, Suite 850
Monroeville, PA 15146
(412) 810-8888 Phone
(412) 810-8886 Fax
Oh, yes you are right. When I originally installed qmail, I didn't know which
mailers were "usable". REMOVE.binmail recommended mailx, but I couldn't find it on
my system. I had never heard of 'mutt', but alas, here it is and it seems
compatible (I tested it).
Thank you much Patrick!
Patrick Berry wrote:
> On 9/23/99 at 2:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Glenn Crownover) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> had the thought:
>
> > I had 'chmod'ed it to 0 per "REMOVE.binmail" (in <qmail>/doc) step 2, as part
> > of the INSTALL instructions.
> >
> > Then I got this message from my cron job:
> >
> > ------------
> > 23 Sep 04:02:01 ntpdate[29031]: step time server 192.6.38.127 offset 1.067004
> > sec
> > /usr/lib/news/bin/news.daily: /bin/mail: Permission denied
> > ------------
>
> In the REMOVE.binmail file it just says to link it to a usable mailer. I looked
> at the mail and mutt man page and they seemed to be command line compliant. I
> would guess that most mailers are compliant that way. You could just symlink
> /bin/mail to /usr/bin/mutt or whatever...
>
> Another option is to leave sendmail on the system in conjunction with qmail, but
> I doubt that is really necessary.
>
> Pat
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Oh really? So the old 'mail' works as well eh? (Yes, I had diverted sendmail and that
was working fine).
I wonder why the Install tells you to replace mail then...?
Frederik Lindberg wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 23, 1999 at 02:49:08PM -0700, Glenn Crownover wrote:
> > Oh, yes you are right. When I originally installed qmail, I didn't know which
> > mailers were "usable". REMOVE.binmail recommended mailx, but I couldn't find it on
> > my system. I had never heard of 'mutt', but alas, here it is and it seems
> > compatible (I tested it).
>
> I use mail all the time. It invokes sendmail, but qmail has a sendmail
> wrapper. You need to:
>
> ln -sf /var/qmail/bin/sendmail /usr/bin/sendmail
> ln -sf /var/qmail/bin/sendmail /usr/sbin/sendmail
>
> and sometimes also:
> ln -sf /var/qmail/bin/sendmail /usr/lib/sendmail
>
> mail will now happily work with qmail instead and:
>
> mail -s 'about something' someone < message
>
> will work.
>
> --
>
> -Sincerely, Fred
>
> Fred Lindberg, Inf. Dis., WashU, St. Louis, MO, USA
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> From: Glenn Crownover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:13:36 -0700
>
> I wonder why the Install tells you to replace mail then...?
Depends on the version of Unix you're using. Basically, he punted and told
you to always replace it even though many people won't need to.
Chris
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Dave,
thanks for this, but how do I go about setting up this fake domain?
regards,
Steve
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From: Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, 23 September 1999 11:31
Subject: Re: Install help
>"Stephen Lavelle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>My problem has come after the build when I want to do
>>./config-fast the.full.hostname
>>I have a dial up connection to my isp and a dynamic IP address. I wish to
>>set up:
>>fetchmail to collect my mail from isp mailbox (several accounts such as
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc)
>>then my windows boxes will point their mua at qmail (with netscape
>>messenger)
>>to get their mail at their workstation.
>>
>>So my Linux box does not have the.full.hostname - only a name ("my name")
>
>This is exactly what I do at home. I use a local nameserver (built
>into my 3com lanmodem) and put my systems in a "fake" domain. E.g., my
>Linux box is called "sparge", and its FQDN is "sparge.sill". Don't use
>the fake domain in messages outside your local network.
>
>-Dave
>
Hi,
Let me preface this with the statement that I'm a Linux/qmail beginner...
With that it in mind, I have successfuly set up qmail, including virtual
hosting on my Redhat 6 (Intel) box. I've been trying to set up an
auto-responder, and have learned about the vacation program. I installed
"vacation" program written by a fellow named "Igor" (available here:
<http://nutria.life.uiuc.edu/igorl/ISL/programs/past.html>) which is
apparently based on the original vacation program (with which I have no
experience).
So, I set up my .qmail file to look something like this:
-------
|preline /usr/var/local/vacation ted
&ttl
-------
Normally, since this is a virtual host .qmail file, it consists only of the
forward, to the real account "ttl" (and that part works fine).
Unfortunately, it doesn't work. It's apparently getting hung up in the
vacation program, since I don't get the mail either. I don't know where any
error msgs might be appearing, so I'm stuck.
btw, running vacation from the command line works (at least to the extent
that it creates the vacation.msg file, and the .forward file, which I don't
use)
Should I be using a different auto-responder? Or, should this be working?
thanks very much for any help you can provide!
-ted
You want the version written by Peter Samuel, which you can find a link to
on www.qmail.org.
> Hi,
>
> Let me preface this with the statement that I'm a Linux/qmail
> beginner...
>
> With that it in mind, I have successfuly set up qmail,
> including virtual
> hosting on my Redhat 6 (Intel) box. I've been trying to set up an
> auto-responder, and have learned about the vacation program.
> I installed
> "vacation" program written by a fellow named "Igor" (available here:
> <http://nutria.life.uiuc.edu/igorl/ISL/programs/past.html>) which is
> apparently based on the original vacation program (with which
> I have no
> experience).
>
> So, I set up my .qmail file to look something like this:
>
> -------
> |preline /usr/var/local/vacation ted
> &ttl
> -------
> Normally, since this is a virtual host .qmail file, it
> consists only of the
> forward, to the real account "ttl" (and that part works fine).
>
> Unfortunately, it doesn't work. It's apparently getting hung
> up in the
> vacation program, since I don't get the mail either. I don't
> know where any
> error msgs might be appearing, so I'm stuck.
>
> btw, running vacation from the command line works (at least
> to the extent
> that it creates the vacation.msg file, and the .forward file,
> which I don't
> use)
>
> Should I be using a different auto-responder? Or, should this
> be working?
>
> thanks very much for any help you can provide!
>
> -ted
>
ok, installing (on Linux 2.2.6)qmail using LWQ and can't find a directory
'init.d' anywhere on my stytem, where do I need to place my
startup/shutdown script such as described in section 2.8.2 of Living w/
qmail? I have a file called init in /sbin though that is it.
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} ok, installing (on Linux 2.2.6)qmail using LWQ and can't find a directory
} 'init.d' anywhere on my stytem, where do I need to place my
} startup/shutdown script such as described in section 2.8.2 of Living w/
} qmail? I have a file called init in /sbin though that is it.
It may depends on the distribution, but it's in /etc/rc.d/init.d on
RedHat/RedHat-like systems. Try "locate init.d" if it's not there.
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Franklin A Hays writes:
>
> ok, installing (on Linux 2.2.6)qmail using LWQ and can't find a directory
> 'init.d' anywhere on my stytem, where do I need to place my
> startup/shutdown script such as described in section 2.8.2 of Living w/
> qmail? I have a file called init in /sbin though that is it.
This has nothing to do with the revision level of the Linux kernel, but
with a particular distribution you're using. AFAIK, only the Slackware
distribution does not use a SysV-style init script, which is probably what
you have (the Slackware distribution, that is). I don't remember much
about Berzerkeley-style init scripts that Slackware uses, but what you need
to do is to look at the scripts in /etc/rc.d, and figure out which ones get
executed when the system starts up, and add your custom code there.
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Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Thu, 23 Sep 1999:
> init scripts that Slackware uses, but what you need
> to do is to look at the scripts in /etc/rc.d, and figure out which ones get
> executed when the system starts up, and add your custom code there.
The right file is probably /etc/rc.d/rc.local
Mikko
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Time was invented by an Irish guy named O'Clock.
I am using the slackware 3.6 distro, boot scripts are in /etc/rc.d
the contents of this folder are as follows:
rc0@,rc.4,rc.6,rc.k,rcM,rc.S,rc.atalk,rc.cdrom,rc.httpd,rc.inet1,rc.inet2,rc.local,rc.module
rc.modules.2.0.36,rc.modules.2.2.3, rc.modules.orig,rc.samba,and rc.serial
one person suggested it was rc.local, how can I confirm this on my system?
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thanks for the help. looks like rc.local (exececutable) is my guy, how do
I comment (install) the qmail startup/shutdown script into it? FYI, I am
on pg. 19/20 of LWQ, i generated both 'qmail' and 'rc', now need to
install qmail into rc.local. as you can tell, learning as I go and new to
unix but appreciated all the help!!
i need to also link the qmail script to some of my 'rc' directories. LWQ
lists rc0-rc6 while, as you can see from my previous email, i only have
rc.0,rc.4,and rc.6.
i tried to use "find RCDIR -name "*sendmail" -print" to no avial, what am
I doing wrong? need more info?
-frank
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Franklin A Hays <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Thu, 23 Sep 1999:
> i need to also link the qmail script to some of my 'rc' directories. LWQ
> lists rc0-rc6 while, as you can see from my previous email, i only have
> rc.0,rc.4,and rc.6.
That's only true for SysV-style init. For the one that comes with
Slackware, you don't need to do any links or any of that SysV stuff.
Ignore what LWQ says about the rc.* files, they are for SysV init
and don't match what you have on your system.
You only really need to figure out a working startup command for qmail,
and include that in the rc.local file, and you're set.
> i tried to use "find RCDIR -name "*sendmail" -print" to no avial, what am
> I doing wrong? need more info?
I think you're meant to replace RCDIR with /etc/rc.d -- however, again
that works only with SysV init scripts, which would have a file called
<something>sendmail in one of the directories. It wouldn't exist in
your system. Instead, the corresponding command to start sendmail is
in the rc.M file (probably that anyway), which you need to comment out.
To reiterate:
1) find the sendmail startup command in one of the files in
/etc/rc.d/rc.*, probably rc.M, and remove or comment that out
2) include the qmail startup command in /etc/rc.d/rc.local (or
rc.M if you prefer that)
And that's all you need to do as regards to starting qmail at system
startup.
Mikko
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"Attitude is more important than reality"
Pavel Kankovsky writes:
> On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Russell Nelson wrote:
>
> > Because you claimed that it was speaking SMTP. Upon examination, it
> > isn't. Your MX records are false. Why should I send your server any
> > mail at all, since it may not be the right server at all?
>
> 1. The host is dead => it does not send any datagrams =>
> it does not speak SMTP.
> 2. The host is alive but no process listens on SMTP port => it refuses
> TCP connections => it does not speak SMTP.
> 3. The host is alive, some process listens on SMTP port but something
> gets screwed up when a connection is open, and the connection is closed
> immediately (e.g. qmail-smtpd binary is corrupted and dies immediately)
> => it does not say SMTP hello => it does not speak SMTP.
> Why does qmail fall back to other MXes in cases 1 and 2 but not in
> case 3? Why does it fall back at all? It should always ignore the
> other MXes because the records are always incorrect according to
> your reasoning!?
Because it's reasonable to expect that other MX records will work for
1+2, but not for 3. If the lowest priority MX record is screwed up,
why aren't the others as well?
Essentially what we're dancing around is the issue of deliberate
misconfiguration in an effort to save sysadmin time: "It's hard work to
set up split DNS. Why not just have a low numbered MX record for
internal hosts, and a higher numbered record for external hosts? It
works for sendmail, so it should work for everything, right?"
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Anand Buddhdev wrote:
>
> > Request to DJB: time-based logging in multilog would be very useful to
> > many people. Please consider it as an option besides size-based
> > rotation, somewhat like FreeBSD's newsyslog. I do understand that
> > time-based logging could fill up a disk, but that's a risk an end-user
> > can take themselves.
>
> Both features could be combined to get the best of both.
Nope. How do you deal with too many log entries in too short a period
of time? If you base it on size, you lose log entries. If you base
it on time, you run the risk of filling up the disk space, and losing
something else.
Time-based logging doesn't solve any serious problem, since you can
pull the log file entries out of multiple files very easily. The name
of the file has the time of the first entry, and the timestamp of the
file has the time of the last entry. You want perl code? I've got it.
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On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Russell Nelson wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > Anand Buddhdev wrote:
> >
> > > Request to DJB: time-based logging in multilog would be very useful to
> > > many people. Please consider it as an option besides size-based
> > > rotation, somewhat like FreeBSD's newsyslog. I do understand that
> > > time-based logging could fill up a disk, but that's a risk an end-user
> > > can take themselves.
> >
> > Both features could be combined to get the best of both.
>
> Nope. How do you deal with too many log entries in too short a period
> of time? If you base it on size, you lose log entries. If you base
> it on time, you run the risk of filling up the disk space, and losing
> something else.
>
> Time-based logging doesn't solve any serious problem, since you can
> pull the log file entries out of multiple files very easily. The name
> of the file has the time of the first entry, and the timestamp of the
> file has the time of the last entry. You want perl code? I've got it.
I've been looking at this issue too. While I think that time based
logging would be good, (and the only problem I can see is running out
of disk space) we don't have it yet.
I'm experimenting with something like the following
supervise -r dir process | accustamp | mrtg_logger | cyclog $LOG
The mrtg_logger is simple perl code that takes STDIN and spits it straight to
STDOUT. It also does some stats gathering and every 5 mintes writes
the details to a log file and calls mrtg. The mrtg config file simply
cats the file:
Target[pop3d]: `cat /var/log/pop3d/mrtg.log`
So far I'm logging internal/external pop3d and smtpd connections on a
test box. Next thing to look at is one to run matchup on the input and
extract details from that.
The only problem I can see with this method is that if the system dies
4 minutes 59 seconds into the current cycle, and is restarted, you'll
lose the mrtg stats for those 4 minutes 59 seconds. cyclog will still
have them.
The reson I'm doing it this way is that my log files are reasonably
large (8Mb per day) and groking a big file every 5 minutes to extract
a small section is loading up the system a bit too much.
Regards
Peter
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"If you kill all your unhappy customers, you'll only have happy ones left"
i am getting closer, have some more questions for everyone (really
appreciate the help thus far). I commented out the sendmail startup
daemon in rc.M and then added the following to rc.local:
if [ -x /var/qmail/rc ]; then
echo "Starting qmail daemon ..."
bash -r -c 'var/qmail/rc &'
fi
yet when I restart I have no mail capabilities (i.e. qmail isn't working
and sendmail is disabled). My startup script (qmail) is in /var/qmail.
When I check syslog there are no errors (no 'status' or 'cannot start'
from qmail-send or anything else). No errors reported in error_log
either. there are also no qmail daemons running. when i try a
local-local test (echo to: me | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject) and get no
response in syslog or my mailbox------qmail is not running.
Thus, I have qmail installed yet it is not running. i know it could be a
million things, but what do i go now??? troubleshooting...
-frank
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I'll post a IMAP/Qmail doc on my website this weekend (Sunday), so hangon.
Kenneth
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Rafael Pirolla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev i en
nyhedsmeddelelse:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Hi,
> How do I start an IMAP server under Qmail ? Can anyone send me
> adresses of doc's about IMAP configuration servers...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pirolla
>
Hello,
I'd like to know if it is possible to do that:
I have a mail server that keeps mails in /var/spool/mail.
Clients should be able to get mails with fetchmail using the
APOP protocol.
I thought qmail could be a pop server with qmail-pop3d (with
customized checkpassword for APOP) but it seems to work only with
the maildir system which I want to avoid. So I turned towards qpopper
which supports APOP. But when I launched 'configure', the script stoppped
and said that the sendmail program cannot be located. But I want it to use
qmail instead.
So what should I do ?
Ludovic Kuty
Isn't the first feature of your patch a standard tcpserver feature? And you
even say inetd is not supported, so you use tcpserver...
Franky
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> From: Hotdog[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 10:48 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: A patched qmail-smtpd.c
>
> <<File: qmail-smtpd.c>>
> Hi all:
>
> I have added some codes into qmail-smtpd.c, now it can do something
> funny:
>
> 1. Refuse appointed ip to connect.
> this is in control/badip, such as
> 100.100.100.100 will refuse 100.100.100.100 to connect and
> 100.100.100. will refuse 100.100.100.x to connect.
> inetd is not supported.
>
> 2.Refuse letters contain some bad keywords.
> this is in control/badkeyword,such as
> get money from will refuse all letters contain 'get money from'.
>
> 3.Added a command : vrfy
> yes,vrfy is dangerous, but if fake it then ...:)
>
> Sorry my bad programming skills, but I think it can run correctly. :)
>
> have fun!
>
>
>
> Hotdog
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Sure, tcpserver can do it too. But everytimes run tcprules maybe a little
troublesome. :p
>Isn't the first feature of your patch a standard tcpserver feature? And you
>even say inetd is not supported, so you use tcpserver...
>
>Franky
>
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>> From: Hotdog[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 10:48 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: A patched qmail-smtpd.c
>>
>> <<File: qmail-smtpd.c>>
>> Hi all:
>>
>> I have added some codes into qmail-smtpd.c, now it can do something
>> funny:
>>
>> 1. Refuse appointed ip to connect.
>> this is in control/badip, such as
Hotdog
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I am not saying it's a bad idea, but a few things need to be pointed
out:
1. It's usual to publish a patch, not a patched source.
2. The badip idea seems confusing; why shouldn't tcpserver or
inetd take care about that? After all, qmail-smtpd might just as well
read from the keyboard/file instead of socket.
3. If you're saying "no" in SMTP, it can't be with a code 221. It
must be 4xx (temporary) or 5xx (permanent).
4. What's the silly idea of saying "no" to vrfy? "maybe" is much
better.
But again, I am not saying your ideas are wrong - I'm only saying I
don't like them :-)
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[Tom Waits]
Hi all:
I have added some codes into qmail-smtpd.c, now it can do something funny:
1. Refuse appointed ip to connect.
this is in control/badip, such as
100.100.100.100 will refuse 100.100.100.100 to connect and
100.100.100. will refuse 100.100.100.x to connect.
inetd is not supported.
2.Refuse letters contain some bad keywords.
this is in control/badkeyword,such as
get money from will refuse all letters contain 'get money from'.
3.Added a command : vrfy
yes,vrfy is dangerous, but if fake it then ...:)
Sorry my bad programming skills, but I think it can run correctly. :)
have fun!
Hotdog
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