On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 12:55:56AM +0100, Pete Henshall wrote:
> Hi Jason,
> 
> I have taken everything out of the equation including the autoturn stuff and
> it still does it, on three boxes.
> 
> But you are saying that these orphaned  |-perl5.8.0 processs are normal?

No - I said the qmail-queue.log stuff you sent through all looked normal - I
didn't see anything that was causing the hangs you are seeing.

> why is it calling reformime after it has failed?

It doesn't. If you are referring to the "no sender or recip found" messages
- Q-S exits after that. They are not causing the hangs...

> > Pete - you still haven't said what OS/version you are running!
> 
> Linux Slackware 8.1 SMP
> 
> Linux gilliam 2.4.21 #1 SMP Sat Jun 21 19:21:56 GMT 2003 i686 unknown

That's a really new kernel... Let's go back to basics - when did this
problem start? Has this ever worked 100% for you? Or did these problems
occur after you upgraded to 2.4.21?

> > Neither can I. I see a success and a drop due to there being no sender and
> > recip. Both are normal - both don't cause hangs...
> 
> OK, but orphaned processes off init ?  :\

Well that's what we're trying to discover :-)

> > Right back in the beginning you said you had a disk problem - how do
> > we know this isn't still the case?
> 
> It doesn't hard hang anymore, just go really really slow when those orphaned
> perl processes are calling things.

No - I mean you said you had a disk problem - did you or didn't you? 

> Is it just totally normal to have these orphaned processes and I have been
> barking up a tree for no reason?

Oh no - you do have a problem alright...

OK, so it looks like reformime is hanging on you there.

Your logs say:

22/06/2003 08:53:26:15752: d_m: starting
usr/local/bin/reformime  -x/var/spool/qmailscan/gilliam105627200642615752/
</var/spool/qmailscan/working/new/gilliam105627200642615752

Can you check that's correct? I mean it says:

"starting usr/local/bin/reformime"

instead of:

"starting /usr/local/bin/reformime"

why is that?

Secondly, have you tried recompiling maildrop on 2.4.21 to see if that's the
problem?

I must say I'm a bit lost. You apparently have a working system that just
turns to custard for no apparent reason - hence me continually asking you
about that disk error you reported in your very first message... This looks
like a hardware problem

-- 
Cheers

Jason Haar
Information Security Manager, Trimble Navigation Ltd.
Phone: +64 3 9635 377 Fax: +64 3 9635 417
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