well.. speedycgi = persistenperl now.  reading up on how speedycgi works from 
http://daemoninc.com/SpeedyCGI/yapc_2001/

When executed, the speedy frontend does the following:
   1. Looks for an available backend to run this script.
   2. If no backends are available, starts a new one.
   3. As soon as a backend is located, connects to it and starts to send over %ENV, 
@ARGV and the STDIN data.
   4. Brings back the STDOUT and STDERR data from the backend and sends it to its 
output. 

Note Step 3.  It does not send over STDOUT which I need to read in.

Dallas



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tren Blackburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:17 AM
> To: Dallas Engelken
> Subject: RE: [Qmail-scanner-general]Expected Performance Degradation
> 
> 
> Hi Dallas;
> 
> I'm not sure if this is of any help at all, but I found a 
> script example for 
> perperl that seems to deal with STDOUT.  
> 
> http://www.uiuc.edu/source/ph
> 
> I'd really like to see perperl implemented as well, so I'm 
> hoping this is 
> helping and not hindering.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Tren
> 
> Quoting Dallas Engelken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Johan Kuuse - Red Antigua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:32 AM
> > > To: Dallas Engelken
> > > Subject: Re: [Qmail-scanner-general]Expected Performance 
> Degradation
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Very interesting discussion.
> > > Anyone has tried compiling qmail-scanner inte C (perlfaq3)?
> > > Would that help?
> > > 
> > 
> > I'm not sure what you are referring to here: inte C?
> > 
> > I took qmail-scanner-queue.pl and trimmed everything out, 
> into a little
> > script that I could test perl vs. suidperl vs. perperl.  
> here is my script
> > and my results...
> > 
> > #!/usr/bin/suidperl -w
> > #!/usr/bin/perl -w 
> > #!/usr/bin/perperl -w -- -M20 -r5
> > # START TEST, RUN 3 TIMES USING DIFFERENT INTERPRETERS LISTED ABOVE
> > # * requires (777 perms for perl to write, or chown on the 
> maildir):  
> > #   maildirmake /tmp/working
> > #   chmod -R 0777 /tmp/working
> > 
> >  my $scandir = "/tmp";
> >  my $file_id = &uniq_id();
> > 
> >  select(STDIN); $|=1;
> > 
> >  mkdir("$scandir/$file_id",0700);
> >  chdir("$scandir/$file_id/");
> > 
> >  open(F,">$scandir/working/tmp/$file_id") or print "Cannot 
> write tmp";
> >  while (<STDIN>) {
> >    chomp($_);
> >    &debug("STDIN: $_");
> >    print F $_ . "\n";
> >  }
> >  close(F);
> > 
> >  rename("$scandir/working/tmp/$file_id",
> >         "$scandir/working/new/$file_id");
> > 
> >  close(STDIN);
> > 
> >   select(STDOUT); $|=1;
> > 
> >   open(SOUT,"<&STDOUT");
> >   while (<SOUT>) {
> >     &debug("SOUT LINE: $_");
> >     ($env_returnpath,$env_recips) = split(/\0/,$_,2);
> >   }
> > 
> > exit;
> > 
> > #############################
> > 
> > sub uniq_id {
> >   my $time = time();
> >   &debug($time);
> >   return "mailgw.$time";
> > }
> > 
> > ##############################
> > 
> > sub debug {
> > 
> >  my $log = shift;
> > 
> >   open (T,">>/tmp/debug.log");
> >   flock(T,2);
> >   print T $log . "\n";
> >   close (T);
> > }
> > 
> > ##############################
> > # EOF
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > DEBUG OUTPUT UNDER PERL
> > ------------------------
> > STDIN: Received: from unknown (HELO nmgi.com) (64.217.128.161)
> > STDIN:   by 0 with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 15:42:08 -0000
> > STDIN: Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > STDIN: Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:42:07 -0600
> > STDIN: From: Dallas Engelken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > STDIN: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; 
> en-US; rv:1.3a)
> > Gecko/20021212
> > STDIN: X-Accept-Language: en-us, en
> > STDIN: MIME-Version: 1.0
> > STDIN: To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > STDIN: Subject: hi
> > STDIN: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.72.0.0
> > STDIN: X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime
> > STDIN: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
> > STDIN: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> > STDIN: 
> > STDIN: hi
> > STDIN: 
> > SOUT LINE: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@nmgi.com 
> > 
> > 
> > DEBUG OUTPUT UNDER SUIDPERL
> > --------------------------
> > STDIN: Received: from unknown (HELO nmgi.com) (64.217.128.161)
> > STDIN:   by 0 with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 15:43:06 -0000
> > STDIN: Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > STDIN: Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:43:06 -0600
> > STDIN: From: Dallas Engelken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > STDIN: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; 
> en-US; rv:1.3a)
> > Gecko/20021212
> > STDIN: X-Accept-Language: en-us, en
> > STDIN: MIME-Version: 1.0
> > STDIN: To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > STDIN: Subject: hi
> > STDIN: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.72.0.0
> > STDIN: X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime
> > STDIN: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
> > STDIN: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> > STDIN: 
> > STDIN: hi
> > STDIN: 
> > SOUT LINE: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@nmgi.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > DEBUG OUTPUT UNDER PERPERL
> > ----------------------------
> > STDIN: Received: from unknown (HELO nmgi.com) (64.217.128.161)
> > STDIN:   by 0 with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 15:40:22 -0000
> > STDIN: Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > STDIN: Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:40:21 -0600
> > STDIN: From: Dallas Engelken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > STDIN: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; 
> en-US; rv:1.3a)
> > Gecko/20021212
> > STDIN: X-Accept-Language: en-us, en
> > STDIN: MIME-Version: 1.0
> > STDIN: To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > STDIN: Subject: hi
> > STDIN: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.72.0.0
> > STDIN: X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime
> > STDIN: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
> > STDIN: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> > STDIN: 
> > STDIN: hi
> > STDIN:
> > 
> > 
> > perl and suidperl both have a line of STDOUT.  perperl does 
> not.  WTF.
> > dallas
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Dallas Engelken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Dallas Engelken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Rick Romero" 
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 4:38 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [Qmail-scanner-general]Expected Performance 
> Degradation
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Dallas Engelken
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:27 PM
> > > > To: Rick Romero; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: RE: [Qmail-scanner-general]Expected 
> Performance Degradation
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Rick Romero [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 1:28 PM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Qmail-scanner-general]Expected Performance 
> > > Degradation
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 13:05, Ryan Finnie wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, D.Monroe wrote:
> > > > > > > By far, the biggest "hit" (running just Q-S) is likely
> > > > due to the
> > > > > > > overhead of the perl interpreter and the perlscan
> > > > > body/attachment searches.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've been thinking about that...  there's not much you can
> > > > > do about the
> > > > > > overhead for decompiling the messages before being scanned,
> > > > > but the act of
> > > > > > actually loading the full perl script each time a message
> > > > > comes in is a
> > > > > > significant hit.  What I'd be interested in seeing is a
> > > > > method similar to
> > > > > > SA's spamd/spamc system, where the Q-S program is loaded as
> > > > > a separate
> > > > > > process, listens for connections (either via TCP of UNIX
> > > > > sockets), and
> > > > > > does its thing.
> > > > >
> > > > > Has anyone tried this:
> > > > > http://daemoninc.com/PersistentPerl/
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I've been trying to do this, but cant seem to read &STDOUT
> > > > when i change to to #!/usr/bin/perperl (yes i setuid on
> > > > perperl to qmailq and changed qmail-scanner to just 0750).
> > > >
> > > > since i cant grab STDOUT, i get
> > > > 2003-03-11 15:24:09:8283: g_e_h: no sender and no recips.
> > > >
> > > > i'm not sure where to go from here, but I'm working on it.
> > > >
> > > > dallas
> > > >
> > > >
> > > 
> > > well.. i've spent an hour on this and have come to the the 
> > > conclusion that
> > > grab_envelope_hdrs() does not get the 1 line it is expecting 
> > > from STDOUT.
> > > Where does this line go when running through perperl?
> > > 
> > >   select(STDOUT);
> > >   $|=1;
> > >   open(SOUT,"<&STDOUT") || &tempfail("cannot dup fd 0 - $!");
> > > 
> > > should give me something like 
> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]@test.com\0\0"
> > > right... which is just not there anymore.  STDIN is cool, the 
> > > message dumps
> > > to a file, renames, reformime and tnef run fine on it, 
> but once that
> > > grab_envelope_hdrs() call comes...
> > > 
> > > help!
> > > 
> > > dallas
> > > 
> > > 
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