Hi Patrick

On 09/26/2017 02:10 PM, Patrick Dunford wrote:

The issue is, even the latest version of Mint is based on Xenial - you don't have the means to upgrade the base.


If I have a later version of Ubuntu or Debian than Xenial I don't need to use the ubuntugis repository - problem solved. Qgis do not provide the ubuntugis repository so they obviously have limited means to ensure the packages there are up to date. So the best solution is not to use ubuntugis if there are issues like this.

Not sure I follow you. From the QGIS download page the recommended repo for ubuntu *is ubuntugis* and has been for ages, if I'm not mistaken. That's where all the recent packages are. There are tons of mails in the archive regarding ubuntugis-unstable vs ubuntugis-nightly vs ubuntugis. But the discussion is always around ubuntugis. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

If I remove that repo (from Mint or Ubuntu) I go back to QGIS 2.14.x, which is now no longer the LTS version, and will probably not be supported any longer.


I don't think it's reasonable to say that Xenial - only 1.5 years old - is not going to be supported. Many people don't need or want the bleeding edge software, be we do expect that an OS and applications will work for several years. All we ask is not to push out new versions until the whole stack is ready. Since this problem with GRASS has happened before and always has been fixed within a few days, it's obvious to me that somehow packages are pushed out to the repo before the whole system has been checked thoroughly. So I don't think there's a problem with the underlying OS, or which repo to use.


Best regards,

Micha

There is not a guarantee to support every distro out there and the most stable option is to use a supported distro.


On 26/09/17 23:27, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:
Am 26.09.2017, 10:40 Uhr, schrieb Patrick Dunford <[email protected]>:

There are some issues supporting xenial, are you able to test on a more recent version of Ubuntu or Debian, maybe in a virtual machine. I am going to have a look at my 17.04 vm with the latest 2.18 to see.

I wonder why xenial should have support issues, being the LTS-version.



I would not recommend Mint - apart from being not an officially supported distro, the most recent version is based on what is now relatively old Ubuntu xenial, because the Mint people are falling behind in development. I switched to Xubuntu to avoid the Unity controversy.

Mint also has updates, so I do not see the point switching to somewhere else. The main problem here is imho that ubuntugis-unstable and the qgis repositories are very often out of sync. But a QGIS without all the bells and whistles from ubuntugis is quite useless for me.

Cheers
Bernd



On 26/09/17 21:36, Micha Silver wrote:
After the recent update to QGIS 2.18.13, GRASS support is gone. No plugin and no provider.

My apt sources includes:
deb http://qgis.org/ubuntugis xenial main
deb-src http://qgis.org/ubuntugis xenial main
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntugis/ubuntugis-unstable/ubuntu xenial main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntugis/ubuntugis-unstable/ubuntu xenial main

The packages are installed:
$ dpkg -l | grep plugin-grass
ii  qgis-plugin-grass                            1:2.18.13+24xenial-ubuntugis                 amd64        GRASS plugin for QGIS
ii  qgis-plugin-grass-common                     1:2.18.13+24xenial-ubuntugis                 all          GRASS plugin for QGIS - architecture-independent data
$ dpkg -l | grep provider-grass
ii  qgis-provider-grass                          1:2.18.13+24xenial-ubuntugis                 amd64        GRASS provider for QGIS

More info:
$ gdalinfo --version
GDAL 2.2.1, released 2017/06/23
$ grass --version
GRASS GIS 7.2.2

Running 'qgis --debug & ' does not show anything unusual.

This is getting tiresome - every few months a routine system upgrade trashes GRASS support.

Any suggestions are welcome,
Thanks, Micha

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