Hi Jonathan,
NIWA (New Zealand) is funding the development of a random stratified survey
sample site generator as a QGIS plugin (based around our specific needs).
We have incorporated a different random number generator (more statistically
random) than the default, and it can generate random shoreline transects
(off-coast linestrings for shellfish dive surveys, for example) in shoreline
strata as well as random points in any polygon strata. Strata are defined as
single- or multi-polygons, and each has attributes which include the number of
stations/transects to generate in each stratum, as well as the minimum distance
between them. Thus the parameters are stratum specific, eg- higher density, or
more sampling is supported in higher density strata, as desired.
If you start with strata defined as multiple single polygons sharing a common
identifier (we did in one test case), use QGIS to combine them into
multipolygons based on the identifier, so this survey tool should meet your
needs.
Marco Hugentobler at Sourcepole is doing the code development for us, amd I'm
happy for you to try this out for your purposes if you are interested.
We are also planning to extend the tool to carry out a standard analysis based
on the result from surveying/sampling the sites generated by the tool.
At present we are using a custom version of QGIS with the tool pre-installed,
with it's own installer, while testing.
The tool is loosely based around this approach to survey design - but does not
support second phase calculations - we already have a tool for that:
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00288330.1984.9516030#preview
If you are interested in trying this tool out, please let me know & I'll put
up a copy for you to download.
On our to-do list is to run many iterations on a standardised dataset to
determine the actual randomness of the results. Essentially combine the outputs
& assess the likelihood of any point in each strata being included or excluded
- the perfect result being that every point has an equal chance of being
sampled. This is more likely with the point samples - shoreline transects are a
bit more arbitrary with convoluted coastlines.
Cheers,
Brent Wood
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From: Jonathan Greenberg <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 7:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Stratified sampling based on polygon ID (vs.
individual polyons)
Robert:
Thanks! Yeah, I ended up being a bit more patient (after your
response) and realized it WAS working, it just took a REALLY long
time. I found this bug report from 2 years ago:
http://hub.qgis.org/issues/3371 (Random points is terribly slow with
complex features)
which seems to still be unresolved. I'll check out the internal code
at some point, but I'm not a QGIS developer -- is there anyone out
there that might like to "collaborate" on speeding this up (if I come
up with some algorithm modifications, could someone actually implement
them?)
By the way: this is a non-trivial issue, in my opinion, if someone
wants to do "true" stratified sampling (per-polygon sampling isn't
really stratified in most cases), this tool, applied to a multi-part
polygon, is the only tool I've found that can do this (ArcGIS and
plugins don't seem to work).
--j
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 6:32 AM, Robert Nuske <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Jonathan,
>
> the process you described works for me in QGIS 1.8.
>
> After fiddling with your dataset I reverted to a minimal example of a dozen
> polygons and three groups. After converting the singleparts to multiparts I
> asked for 5 "random points" in "stratified sampling design". Each multipart
> feature got 5 points and in every multipart the points where spread out across
> all polygons belonging to that multipart.
>
> So I guess its a matter of size.
>
> cheers
> robert
>
>
> Am Donnerstag, 5. September 2013, 16:09:53 schrieb Jonathan Greenberg:
>> QGISers:
>>
>> I'm trying to realize stratified random sampling using a
>> classification raster that I polygonized. It seems like the random
>> points tool will create random points within each polygon, but in my
>> case the strata are the classes, which can be scattered across a
>> landscape -- in other words, multiple polygons make up a single strata
>> (I'd argue this is a more valid definition of stratified random
>> sampling). I'd like to choose, say, 10 random points falling in each
>> group of polygons with a given shared (classification) attribute. Is
>> there any way to realize this in QGIS? I tried pre-converting the
>> polygonized classification file to a multi-part polygon, but the
>> random sampling tool froze up when I used this as an input.
>>
>> I dropped the polygon layer (derived from the classification raster) in:
>> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8Kij67bij_AMmNPakJmT1p4OWc&usp=shar
>> ing
>>
>> The "DN" attribute is the strata I want to use (notice multiple
>> polygons have the same DN).
>>
>> To be clear: I don't want 10 points per polygon, I want 10 points per "DN".
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> --jonathan
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