(Re-sending my response because I think we lost some Cc mailing-lists in the thread)
El vie, 22 nov 2024 a las 9:57, Germán Carrillo (<carrillo.ger...@gmail.com>) escribió: > Hi everyone, > > Thanks for raising this topic. > > First of all, thanks to all of you for being elected as community voting > member. It means a lot to me because I've loved this project and its > community since almost a couple of decades ago! > > On the other hand, I agree with making it explicit that a community member > cannot be representing a user group at the same time for the sake of > transparency and diversity. > If I had to step down as user group representative in order to accept the > new community voting membership, I'd be willing to do so. > Please let me know if/when that's official/agreed, so that I can ask the > Colombian user group to communicate a new representative person to the PSC. > > Regards, > > Germán > > > El vie, 22 nov 2024 a las 9:12, Raymond Nijssen via Qgis-voting-members (< > qgis-voting-memb...@lists.osgeo.org>) escribió: > >> Maybe we can make it more transparent by listing what the user groups >> have voted for, together with the election results? >> >> For us in NL, they should not be secret anyway, as they have been >> discussed online in our chat group. And then "my" users can see that I >> really voted for what we agreed on. >> >> Also save me from the struggle of being integer! ;) >> >> Raymond >> >> >> On 22-11-2024 12:18, Matthias Kuhn via Qgis-voting-members wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > According to >> > https://www.qgis.org/community/organisation/#country-voting-members >> > <https://www.qgis.org/community/organisation/#country-voting-members> >> > the country voting members should represent the interest of the country >> > group and not their personal one, whereas as a community voting member >> > someone represents their personal opinion. I do see some potential >> > conflict of interest, but not a strong one as the two votes represent >> > different entities (through the same messenger). >> > >> > A question with respect to operation of such a potential rule would be >> > if being a country voting member would exclude someone from also >> > becoming a community voting member. Or if they will need to step back >> > from their country voting member position and the user group will need >> > to elect someone new. The first option would reduce the motivation for >> > someone to become a country voting member (because it rules out >> becoming >> > community voting member). The second option will require that the >> > country user group receives a timeframe to organize a new election. >> > >> > Matthias >> > >> > On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 11:38 AM Andreas Neumann via >> Qgis-voting-members >> > <qgis-voting-memb...@lists.osgeo.org >> > <mailto:qgis-voting-memb...@lists.osgeo.org>> wrote: >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > I agree with Stefanos. >> > >> > People shouldn't have two votes - both as a user group and a >> > community voting member. They should be exclusive. >> > >> > BTW: Isabel isn't the chair of the Swiss QGIS user group anymore. >> > She handed over to François Voisard 1-2 years ago. I hope that >> > François received the voting invitation and not Isabel. I will >> > provide a PR request to fix the QGIS user group website. >> > >> > Greetings, >> > >> > Andreas >> > >> > >> > On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 at 09:31, Stefanos Natsis via QGIS-User >> > <qgis-u...@lists.osgeo.org <mailto:qgis-u...@lists.osgeo.org>> >> wrote: >> > >> > Hi Marco, lists >> > >> > While I trust German and the Colombian user group's democratic >> > procedures for delivering a vote to their representative, I >> > deeply believe that having the same person as both a country >> > voting member and a community voting member is a step in the >> > wrong direction. >> > It defeats the purpose of the Community Voting Members concept, >> > which is to bring in more people to the QGIS commons and have a >> > diverse pool of voters in the general meeting. >> > Imagine the case where all country user groups had the same >> > person as both a representative and a community voting member. >> > In addition to that, one could also be OSGEO voting member and >> > Honorary voting member too, casting a total of 4 votes! In >> > theory one could have the integrity to cast four independent >> > votes, but it would surely not look good to the public and we >> > should protect the project from such scenarios. >> > >> > I therefore suggest that the PSC amends the Charter [0], >> > explicitly making all four types of voting members as mutually >> > exclusive positions, similar to how voting member and PSC >> > positions are already mutually exclusive. >> > >> > I am sure the Colombian, French and Swiss user groups have >> > plenty of members that can step up to replace their >> representatives. >> > >> > I would love to read others' opinions on the matter! >> > >> > Best, >> > Stefanos >> > >> > >> > [0] https://qgis.org/community/foundation/charter/ >> > <https://qgis.org/community/foundation/charter/> >> > >> > On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 at 18:45, Marco Bernasocchi <ma...@qgis.org >> > <mailto:ma...@qgis.org>> wrote: >> > >> > Hey Stefanos, >> > That is correct, German is already listed as the >> > *representative* of the user group Colombia. >> > The UG Colombia vote is obviously not his vote but the vote >> > of the Colombian user group. >> > >> > That means that he will be listed twice as we already have >> > for other members loke Harrissou and France. >> > >> > Cheers Marco >> > >> > On Thu, 7 Nov 2024, 02:12 Stefanos Natsis, >> > <ucla...@gmail.com <mailto:ucla...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > >> > Thank you Marco, >> > and thank you to those taking the time to vote; >> > participating in commons is an important part of the >> > QGIS community. >> > >> > I have a question regarding the ballot, though: >> > The new QGIS website says Germán is already a voting >> > member as a representative of the Colombian user group. >> > Is the site not up to date? Was the user group disbanded >> > (I can see they lost their registered domain)? >> > >> > Best >> > Stefanos >> > >> > >> > On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 at 23:03, Marco Bernasocchi >> > <ma...@qgis.org <mailto:ma...@qgis.org>> wrote: >> > >> > Dear Community, >> > Thanks for taking the time to respond to the >> > community member vote. >> > The vote closed last week, and I want to share the >> > unofficial results. >> > >> > As stated, we had four slots up for elections and >> > five candidates. >> > >> > We had 20 votes with the following results >> > >> > Germán Carrillo 19 >> > Stefanos Natsis 16 >> > Isabel Kiefer 16 >> > Damiano Lombardi 15 >> > Saber Razmjooei 14 >> > >> > I'm still waiting for a response from two voters I >> > could not confirm as active QGIS contributors, so >> > **these results still need to be considered >> > unofficial**. >> > If the voters were not confirmed as active, the only >> > absolute difference would be that Damiano would have >> > the same votes as Saber, and we would need to run a >> > second round between them. >> > >> > In this sense, I would already heartfeltly welcome >> > Germán, Stefanos, and Isabel to our voting members >> > community. Thank you so much for all you do for the >> > project! >> > >> > I'll follow up with the definitive results next week >> > with the next steps needed. >> > >> > Cheers Marco >> > >> > >> > On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 at 00:35, Marco Bernasocchi >> > <ma...@qgis.org <mailto:ma...@qgis.org>> wrote: >> > >> > Dear QGIS Community >> > >> > We invite you to elect your favourite community >> > voting members. >> > One community voting member is appointed in >> > tandem with each QGIS Country User Group Voting >> > Member. >> > >> > Due to the new usergroups, 4 Community member >> > spot are be up for election. >> > >> > >> > The purpose of the voting members is to elect >> > the PSC and, where necessary, collectively make >> > decisions related to QGIS governance. >> > >> > Please read the instructions carefully and >> > establish your eligibility to vote, which I >> > repeat here for your convenience: >> > "Only community members with commit rights to an >> > official QGIS git repository or with write >> > access in transifex are eligible to vote >> nominees” >> > >> > >> > Voting will close on Friday 25 October 2024 >> > 23:59UTC. >> > The voting form is here: >> > https://forms.gle/64zomCdCtccHQqfp8 >> > <https://forms.gle/64zomCdCtccHQqfp8> >> > >> > If you have any questions about the voting >> > process, please do not hesitate to contact me >> > >> > Cheers >> > Marco >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Marco Bernasocchi >> > >> > QGIS.org Chair >> > OPENGIS.ch CEO >> > http://berna.io <http://berna.io> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Marco Bernasocchi >> > >> > QGIS.org Chair >> > OPENGIS.ch CEO >> > http://berna.io <http://berna.io> >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > QGIS-User mailing list >> > qgis-u...@lists.osgeo.org <mailto:qgis-u...@lists.osgeo.org> >> > List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >> > <https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user> >> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >> > <https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > -- >> > Andreas Neumann >> > QGIS.ORG <http://QGIS.ORG> board member (treasurer) >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Qgis-voting-members mailing list >> > qgis-voting-memb...@lists.osgeo.org >> > <mailto:qgis-voting-memb...@lists.osgeo.org> >> > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-voting-members >> > <https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-voting-members> >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Qgis-voting-members mailing list >> > qgis-voting-memb...@lists.osgeo.org >> > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-voting-members >> _______________________________________________ >> Qgis-voting-members mailing list >> qgis-voting-memb...@lists.osgeo.org >> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-voting-members >> > > > -- > ----------- > |\__ > (:>__)( > |/ > Soluciones Geoinformáticas Libres > http://geotux.tuxfamily.org/ > https://fosstodon.org/@geotux <http://twitter.com/GeoTux2> > > <http://gis.stackexchange.com/users/4972/germ%c3%a1n-carrillo> >
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