Hi all, Instead of deleting, would you consider putting the old documentation to a repository, e.g. Zenodo, so that they are archived for long term? Zenodo allows up to 50GB for each record and it is free. You can also create a community page, so that all records are accessible from a single point: https://zenodo.org/communities/
Best, Serkan On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 at 15:50, Johannes Kröger (WhereGroup) via QGIS-Developer <qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org> wrote: > Thank you! > > I am also in Den Bosch and so I would love to join the discussion there, > hopefully with valuable contributions and solutions :)) > > Cheers, Hannes > Am 21.03.23 um 09:48 schrieb DelazJ via QGIS-Developer: > > Hi, > Thanks all for the feedback > > I second the (somewhat reformulated by myself) opinion that we shouldn't > just buy space or disk because we would be financially able to do so. Not > sure it is a sustainable behavior and we'd just be postponing the issue > (remember, pyqgis repo is also concerned). We rather should identify what > we do really want/need to provide to our community. So I'm glad you'll > discuss this at Den Bosch.* (and I keep updating my list of todo for the > sys admin)* > I also second the suggestion to delete 2.8 and 2.14. It'd release enough > space to serve 3.28. > > About the questions: > Hannes, the folders are so big because they serve (in about 15 to 20 > languages): > - the HTML files (the ones we all know) > - the PDF files (e.g. https://docs.qgis.org/3.22/pdf/) > - and the zipped HTML files (https://docs.qgis.org/3.22/zip/) for local > use for people that do not have full access to WEB but not sure if anyone > is using them. It could be interesting to know stats of downloads (if any). > > About why 3.10 is bigger than 3.22, it had two languages we no longer > publish, and looks like we managed somehow to provide smaller files > (plugins and third-party providers chapters that were removed on the road? > 🤔) > > Bernd, sorry for the old docs popping up during search. Unfortunately, not > something new [0], and we still are looking for people with knowledge in > this area to help us improve the situation. What I usually do is to replace > the version number in the URL and most of the times, it work well unless > the file has been restructured. > The line that shows the top message is at [1]. If someone knows how we > can add the section anchor to that URL, suggestions are more than welcome. > > [0] https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/issues/6449 and there > might be older discussion in ML > [1] > https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/blob/master/themes/rtd_qgis/layout.html#L14 > > Greetings, > Harrissou > > Le lun. 20 mars 2023 à 21:51, Andreas Neumann via QGIS-PSC < > qgis-...@lists.osgeo.org> a écrit : > >> Hi, >> >> Thank you for checking, Richard - yes an additional 35 € per month for >> just 80gb more is not nothing ... compared to a root server. >> >> Ok - let's delete the 2.8 and 2.14 releases. I think it would be good to >> keep the latest 2.x (2.18) around. This should give us some initial room to >> serve the current documentation. If we need additional space. we could also >> remove the 3.10 documentation. >> >> And yes, it is a good idea to discuss infrastructure tasks and >> responsibilities in Den Bosch! >> >> I hope that Kartoza can soon find a good sysadmin person - now that the >> idea to employ a Sysadmin and the funds had been approved. >> >> Andreas >> >> On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 at 21:39, Richard Duivenvoorde <rdmaili...@duif.net> >> wrote: >> >>> On 3/20/23 17:31, Andreas Neumann wrote: >>> > Hi Matthias, >>> > >>> > Sure - buying more space is an option. I would like to get an idea - >>> however - what the monthly expected costs are. Is this a "virtual" server >>> at Hetzner? How much disk space does it have currently, how much do we >>> want? What is the price difference? >>> >>> Building is done on a real Hetzner server: qgis6.org a Hetzner EX42 >>> Root server about 50euro/month >>> Serving the site + docs is done on www2.qgis.org a Hetzner Cloud cpx31 >>> 160GB disk 14euro/ month (as cloud would be cheaper etc etc) >>> >>> We can upgrade the www2 to a newer bigger CLOUD server, but that is >>> about 35 euro/month for just 80Gb more.. >>> Probably then it is better to leave the cloud, and just add an extra >>> root server on which you have a couple of terrabytes... for 50 euro/month >>> >>> Can we sit together in Den Bosch and do decide something on this? I >>> really feel unhappy if people telling us "why is there even a need to >>> care": we/I am not a sysadmin, so everybody with great knowledge and >>> idea's: please help out! >>> >>> > At some point - cleanup of old stuff just makes sense. Getting rid of >>> version 2.14 and 3.8 (it probable should mean 3.8 and not 2.8 - right) >>> would make sense. Documentation always focuses on LTR versions, so all the >>> "in-between" versions that are older than 3-4 years could be deleted. >>> >> # du -hs * >>> >> 255M doc-test >>> >> 579M QGIS-Documentation >>> >> 7.2G QGIS-Documentation-2.14 >>> >> 6.3G QGIS-Documentation-2.18 >>> >> 7.7G QGIS-Documentation-2.8 >>> >> 12G QGIS-Documentation-3.10 >>> >> 11G QGIS-Documentation-3.16 >>> >> 9.4G QGIS-Documentation-3.22 >>> >> 579M QGIS-Documentation-3.28 >>> >> 8.0G QGIS-Documentation-3.4 >>> >> 31G QGIS-tests >>> >> 16G QGIS-Website >>> >>> We still have version 2 (TWO) .8 .14 and .18 around :-) so it NOT a >>> typo... >>> So: can I delete those? >>> And also 3.10 (as this is a 2018 release) >>> >>> The QGIS-tests dir, contains the info available at: >>> http://test.qgis.org >>> BUT!!! that url/dns actually still points to the old server (qgis2) >>> That site hosts the ogcapif / wfs / wms tests (untill 26th of januari)??? >>> >>> Anybody feeling need or responsible for this? >>> We are not serving (yet) test.qgis.org from www2 ... >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Richard >>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> -- >> Andreas Neumann >> QGIS.ORG board member (treasurer) >> _______________________________________________ >> QGIS-PSC mailing list >> qgis-...@lists.osgeo.org >> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc >> > > _______________________________________________ > QGIS-Developer mailing listqgis-develo...@lists.osgeo.org > List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer > Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer > > -- > Johannes Kröger / GIS-Entwickler/-Berater > > --------------------------------------------- > Aufwind durch Wissen! > Web-Seminare und Online-Schulungen > bei der www.foss-academy.com > --------------------------------------------- > > WhereGroup GmbH > c/o KK03 GmbH > Lange Reihe 29 > 20099 Hamburg > Germany > > Tel: +49 (0)228 / 90 90 38 - 36 > Fax: +49 (0)228 / 90 90 38 - 11 > johannes.kroe...@wheregroup.comwww.wheregroup.com > Geschäftsführer: > Olaf Knopp, Peter Stamm > Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 9885 > ------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > QGIS-Developer mailing list > QGIS-Developer@lists.osgeo.org > List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer > Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer >
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