On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 11:37:50AM -0400, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 at 09:30, Laszlo Ersek <ler...@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 8/30/23 14:10, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > > On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 at 14:31, Laszlo Ersek <ler...@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> (1) The virtio-1.0 specification
> > >> <http://docs.oasis-open.org/virtio/virtio/v1.0/virtio-v1.0.html> writes:
> > >>
> > >>> 3     General Initialization And Device Operation
> > >>> 3.1   Device Initialization
> > >>> 3.1.1 Driver Requirements: Device Initialization
> > >>>
> > >>> [...]
> > >>>
> > >>> 7. Perform device-specific setup, including discovery of virtqueues for
> > >>>    the device, optional per-bus setup, reading and possibly writing the
> > >>>    device’s virtio configuration space, and population of virtqueues.
> > >>>
> > >>> 8. Set the DRIVER_OK status bit. At this point the device is “live”.
> > >>
> > >> and
> > >>
> > >>> 4         Virtio Transport Options
> > >>> 4.1       Virtio Over PCI Bus
> > >>> 4.1.4     Virtio Structure PCI Capabilities
> > >>> 4.1.4.3   Common configuration structure layout
> > >>> 4.1.4.3.2 Driver Requirements: Common configuration structure layout
> > >>>
> > >>> [...]
> > >>>
> > >>> The driver MUST configure the other virtqueue fields before enabling the
> > >>> virtqueue with queue_enable.
> > >>>
> > >>> [...]
> > >>
> > >> These together mean that the following sub-sequence of steps is valid for
> > >> a virtio-1.0 guest driver:
> > >>
> > >> (1.1) set "queue_enable" for the needed queues as the final part of 
> > >> device
> > >> initialization step (7),
> > >>
> > >> (1.2) set DRIVER_OK in step (8),
> > >>
> > >> (1.3) immediately start sending virtio requests to the device.
> > >>
> > >> (2) When vhost-user is enabled, and the VHOST_USER_F_PROTOCOL_FEATURES
> > >> special virtio feature is negotiated, then virtio rings start in disabled
> > >> state, according to
> > >> <https://qemu-project.gitlab.io/qemu/interop/vhost-user.html#ring-states>.
> > >> In this case, explicit VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_ENABLE messages are needed 
> > >> for
> > >> enabling vrings.
> > >>
> > >> Therefore setting "queue_enable" from the guest (1.1) is a *control 
> > >> plane*
> > >> operation, which travels from the guest through QEMU to the vhost-user
> > >> backend, using a unix domain socket.
> > >>
> > >> Whereas sending a virtio request (1.3) is a *data plane* operation, which
> > >> evades QEMU -- it travels from guest to the vhost-user backend via
> > >> eventfd.
> > >>
> > >> This means that steps (1.1) and (1.3) travel through different channels,
> > >> and their relative order can be reversed, as perceived by the vhost-user
> > >> backend.
> > >>
> > >> That's exactly what happens when OVMF's virtiofs driver (VirtioFsDxe) 
> > >> runs
> > >> against the Rust-language virtiofsd version 1.7.2. (Which uses version
> > >> 0.10.1 of the vhost-user-backend crate, and version 0.8.1 of the vhost
> > >> crate.)
> > >>
> > >> Namely, when VirtioFsDxe binds a virtiofs device, it goes through the
> > >> device initialization steps (i.e., control plane operations), and
> > >> immediately sends a FUSE_INIT request too (i.e., performs a data plane
> > >> operation). In the Rust-language virtiofsd, this creates a race between
> > >> two components that run *concurrently*, i.e., in different threads or
> > >> processes:
> > >>
> > >> - Control plane, handling vhost-user protocol messages:
> > >>
> > >>   The "VhostUserSlaveReqHandlerMut::set_vring_enable" method
> > >>   [crates/vhost-user-backend/src/handler.rs] handles
> > >>   VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_ENABLE messages, and updates each vring's 
> > >> "enabled"
> > >>   flag according to the message processed.
> > >>
> > >> - Data plane, handling virtio / FUSE requests:
> > >>
> > >>   The "VringEpollHandler::handle_event" method
> > >>   [crates/vhost-user-backend/src/event_loop.rs] handles the incoming
> > >>   virtio / FUSE request, consuming the virtio kick at the same time. If
> > >>   the vring's "enabled" flag is set, the virtio / FUSE request is
> > >>   processed genuinely. If the vring's "enabled" flag is clear, then the
> > >>   virtio / FUSE request is discarded.
> > >
> > > Why is virtiofsd monitoring the virtqueue and discarding requests
> > > while it's disabled?
> >
> > That's what the vhost-user spec requires:
> >
> > https://qemu-project.gitlab.io/qemu/interop/vhost-user.html#ring-states
> >
> > """
> > started but disabled: the back-end must process the ring without causing
> > any side effects. For example, for a networking device, in the disabled
> > state the back-end must not supply any new RX packets, but must process
> > and discard any TX packets.
> > """
> >
> > This state is different from "stopped", where "the back-end must not
> > process the ring at all".
> >
> > The spec also says,
> >
> > """
> > If VHOST_USER_F_PROTOCOL_FEATURES has been negotiated, the ring is
> > initialized in a disabled state and is enabled by
> > VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_ENABLE with parameter 1.
> > """
> >
> > AFAICT virtiofsd follows this requirement.
> 
> Hi Michael,
> You documented the disabled ring state in QEMU commit commit
> c61f09ed855b5009f816242ce281fd01586d4646 ("vhost-user: clarify start
> and enable") where virtio-net devices discard tx buffers. The disabled
> state seems to be specific to vhost-user and not covered in the VIRTIO
> specification.
> 
> Do you remember what the purpose of the disabled state was? Why is it
> necessary to discard tx buffers instead of postponing ring processing
> until the virtqueue is enabled?
> 
> My concern is that the semantics are unclear for virtqueue types that
> are different from virtio-net rx/tx. Even the virtio-net controlq
> would be problematic - should buffers be silently discarded with
> VIRTIO_NET_OK or should they fail?
> 
> Thanks,
> Stefan

I think I got it now.
This weird state happens when linux first queues packets
on multiple queues, then changes max queues to 1, queued packets need
to still be freed eventually.

Yes, I am not sure this can apply to devices or queue types
other than virtio net. Maybe.

When we say:
    must process the ring without causing any side effects.
then I think it would be better to say
    must process the ring if it can be done without causing
    guest visible side effects.

processing rx ring would have a side effect of causing
guest to get malformed buffers, so we don't process it.
processing command queue - we can't fail for sure since
that is guest visible. but practically we don't do this
for cvq.

what should happen for virtiofsd? I don't know -
I am guessing discarding would have a side effect
so should not happen.




> >
> > > This seems like a bug in the vhost-user backend to me.
> >
> > I didn't want to exclude that possiblity; that's why I included Eugenio,
> > German, Liu Jiang, and Sergio in the CC list.
> >
> > >
> > > When the virtqueue is disabled, don't monitor the kickfd.
> > >
> > > When the virtqueue transitions from disabled to enabled, the control
> > > plane should self-trigger the kickfd so that any available buffers
> > > will be processed.
> > >
> > > QEMU uses this scheme to switch between vhost/IOThreads and built-in
> > > virtqueue kick processing.
> > >
> > > This approach is more robust than relying buffers being enqueued after
> > > the virtqueue is enabled.
> >
> > I'm happy to drop the series if the virtiofsd maintainers agree that the
> > bug is in virtiofsd, and can propose a design to fix it. (I do think
> > that such a fix would require an architectural change.)
> >
> > FWIW, my own interpretation of the vhost-user spec (see above) was that
> > virtiofsd was right to behave the way it did, and that there was simply
> > no way to prevent out-of-order delivery other than synchronizing the
> > guest end-to-end with the vhost-user backend, concerning
> > VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_ENABLE.
> >
> > This end-to-end synchronization is present "naturally" in vhost-net,
> > where ioctl()s are automatically synchronous -- in fact *all* operations
> > on the control plane are synchronous. (Which is just a different way to
> > say that the guest is tightly coupled with the control plane.)
> >
> > Note that there has been at least one race like this before; see commit
> > 699f2e535d93 ("vhost: make SET_VRING_ADDR, SET_FEATURES send replies",
> > 2021-09-04). Basically every pre-existent call to enforce_reply() is a
> > cover-up for the vhost-user spec turning (somewhat recklessly?) most
> > operations into async ones.
> >
> > At some point this became apparent and so the REPLY_ACK flag was
> > introduced; see commit ca525ce5618b ("vhost-user: Introduce a new
> > protocol feature REPLY_ACK.", 2016-08-10). (That commit doesn't go into
> > details, but I'm pretty sure there was a similar race around SET_MEM_TABLE!)
> >
> > BTW even if we drop this series for QEMU, I don't think it will have
> > been in vain. The first few patches are cleanups which could be merged
> > for their own sake. And the last patch is essentially the proof of the
> > problem statement / analysis. It can be considered an elaborate bug
> > report for virtiofsd, *if* we decide the bug is in virtiofsd. I did have
> > that avenue in mind as well, when writing the commit message / patch.
> >
> > For now I'm going to post v2 -- that's not to say that I'm dismissing
> > your feedback (see above!), just want to get the latest version on-list.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Laszlo
> >
> > >
> > > Stefan
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Note that OVMF enables the queue *first*, and sends FUSE_INIT *second*.
> > >> However, if the data plane processor in virtiofsd wins the race, then it
> > >> sees the FUSE_INIT *before* the control plane processor took notice of
> > >> VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_ENABLE and green-lit the queue for the data plane
> > >> processor. Therefore the latter drops FUSE_INIT on the floor, and goes
> > >> back to waiting for further virtio / FUSE requests with epoll_wait.
> > >> Meanwhile OVMF is stuck waiting for the FUSET_INIT response -- a 
> > >> deadlock.
> > >>
> > >> The deadlock is not deterministic. OVMF hangs infrequently during first
> > >> boot. However, OVMF hangs almost certainly during reboots from the UEFI
> > >> shell.
> > >>
> > >> The race can be "reliably masked" by inserting a very small delay -- a
> > >> single debug message -- at the top of "VringEpollHandler::handle_event",
> > >> i.e., just before the data plane processor checks the "enabled" field of
> > >> the vring. That delay suffices for the control plane processor to act 
> > >> upon
> > >> VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_ENABLE.
> > >>
> > >> We can deterministically prevent the race in QEMU, by blocking OVMF 
> > >> inside
> > >> step (1.1) -- i.e., in the write to the "queue_enable" register -- until
> > >> VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_ENABLE actually *completes*. That way OVMF's VCPU
> > >> cannot advance to the FUSE_INIT submission before virtiofsd's control
> > >> plane processor takes notice of the queue being enabled.
> > >>
> > >> Wait for VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_ENABLE completion by:
> > >>
> > >> - setting the NEED_REPLY flag on VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_ENABLE, and waiting
> > >>   for the reply, if the VHOST_USER_PROTOCOL_F_REPLY_ACK vhost-user 
> > >> feature
> > >>   has been negotiated, or
> > >>
> > >> - performing a separate VHOST_USER_GET_FEATURES *exchange*, which 
> > >> requires
> > >>   a backend response regardless of VHOST_USER_PROTOCOL_F_REPLY_ACK.
> > >>
> > >> Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <m...@redhat.com> (supporter:vhost)
> > >> Cc: Eugenio Perez Martin <epere...@redhat.com>
> > >> Cc: German Maglione <gmagli...@redhat.com>
> > >> Cc: Liu Jiang <ge...@linux.alibaba.com>
> > >> Cc: Sergio Lopez Pascual <s...@redhat.com>
> > >> Cc: Stefano Garzarella <sgarz...@redhat.com>
> > >> Signed-off-by: Laszlo Ersek <ler...@redhat.com>
> > >> ---
> > >>  hw/virtio/vhost-user.c | 2 +-
> > >>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > >>
> > >> diff --git a/hw/virtio/vhost-user.c b/hw/virtio/vhost-user.c
> > >> index beb4b832245e..01e0ca90c538 100644
> > >> --- a/hw/virtio/vhost-user.c
> > >> +++ b/hw/virtio/vhost-user.c
> > >> @@ -1235,7 +1235,7 @@ static int vhost_user_set_vring_enable(struct 
> > >> vhost_dev *dev, int enable)
> > >>              .num   = enable,
> > >>          };
> > >>
> > >> -        ret = vhost_set_vring(dev, VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_ENABLE, &state, 
> > >> false);
> > >> +        ret = vhost_set_vring(dev, VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_ENABLE, &state, 
> > >> true);
> > >>          if (ret < 0) {
> > >>              /*
> > >>               * Restoring the previous state is likely infeasible, as 
> > >> well as
> > >
> >


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