On Wed, Mar 29, 2023, 9:02 AM Paolo Bonzini <pbonz...@redhat.com> wrote:

> Thanks for posting this!
>
> On 3/28/23 23:11, John Snow wrote:
> > This series is in RFC state; some notable things:
> > - So far, only meson is included in this setup.
> > - There's a ton of debugging prints everywhere. It's extremely chatty
> right now.
> > - Sphinx and qemu.qmp are not yet included in this venv.
> >    (qemu.qmp isn't able to be removed from the tree yet.)
> > - Testing isn't yet*fully*  switched over.
> > - There is no online functionality yet, this series is *100% offline* -
> >    it's the harder option, so I tackled it first.
> >
> > Some known bugs as of now:
> > - venv-in-venv setups are not yet handled.
> > - python3.7 setups without setuptools/pip in the host environment may be
> >    unable to generate script file shims; a workaround is in development
> >    but wasn't ready today. I decided to exclude it.
>
> I don't think that's needed at all---requiring setuptools on those older
> Python versions is good enough and can be mentioned in either an error
> message or the release notes.  But out of curiosity what was the
> workaround?
>

Run the shim generation inside the venv, alongside checkpip.

That way we know we have setuptools.

(It broke for some other reason I didn't diagnose in time to send.)


> I think the steps for the first working version should be:
>
> * fix venv-in-venv using the .pth trick
>

Yep.


> * undo the meson parts from PATCH 3; make patch 3 create the venv +
> subsume the MKVENV parts of the Makefiles + always set
> explicit_python=yes (so that at this point the in-tree meson is always
> used).
>
> * add a patch that starts rejecting --meson=/path/to/meson and drops
> explicit_python (instead using pyvenv/bin/meson to check whether a
> system meson is usable)
>
> * make Meson use a sphinx-build binary from the virtual environment
> (i.e. pass -Dsphinx_build=$PWD/pyvenv/bin/sphinx-build)
>

Yep, let's talk about this part in particular.


> These are the bare minimum needed to drop Python 3.6 support in QEMU 8.1.
>
> Paolo
>
>

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