On 29/11/2022 09:27, Atish Kumar Patra wrote: > EXTERNAL EMAIL: Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the > content is safe > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 11:32 PM <conor.doo...@microchip.com> wrote: >> >> On 29/11/2022 07:08, Andrew Jones wrote: >>> EXTERNAL EMAIL: Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the >>> content is safe >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 09:10:03PM +0000, conor.doo...@microchip.com wrote: >>>> On 28/11/2022 20:41, Atish Kumar Patra wrote: >>>>> EXTERNAL EMAIL: Do not click links or open attachments unless you know >>>>> the content is safe >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 12:38 PM <conor.doo...@microchip.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On 28/11/2022 20:16, Atish Kumar Patra wrote: >>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 24, 2022 at 5:17 AM Conor Dooley >>>>>>> <conor.doo...@microchip.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 03:17:00PM -0700, Atish Patra wrote: >>>>>>>>> Qemu virt machine can support few cache events and cycle/instret >>>>>>>>> counters. >>>>>>>>> It also supports counter overflow for these events. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Add a DT node so that OpenSBI/Linux kernel is aware of the virt >>>>>>>>> machine >>>>>>>>> capabilities. There are some dummy nodes added for testing as well. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hey Atish! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I was fiddling with dumping the virt machine dtb again today to check >>>>>>>> some dt-binding changes I was making for the isa string would play >>>>>>>> nicely with the virt machine & I noticed that this patch has introduced >>>>>>>> a new validation failure: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ./build/qemu-system-riscv64 -nographic -machine virt,dumpdtb=qemu.dtb >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> dt-validate -p >>>>>>>> ../linux/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/processed-schema.json >>>>>>>> qemu.dtb >>>>>>>> /home/conor/stuff/qemu/qemu.dtb: soc: pmu: >>>>>>>> {'riscv,event-to-mhpmcounters': [[1, 1, 524281, 2, 2, 524284, 65561, >>>>>>>> 65561, 524280, 65563, 65563, 524280, 65569, 65569, 524280, 0, 0, 0, 0, >>>>>>>> 0]], 'compatible': ['riscv,pmu']} should not be valid under {'type': >>>>>>>> 'object'} >>>>>>>> From schema: >>>>>>>> /home/conor/.local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/dtschema/schemas/simple-bus.yaml >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I assume this is the aforementioned "dummy" node & you have no >>>>>>>> intention >>>>>>>> of creating a binding for this? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is a dummy node from Linux kernel perspective. OpenSbi use this >>>>>>> node to figure out the hpmcounter mappings. >>>>>> >>>>>> Aye, but should it not have a binding anyway, since they're not >>>>>> meant to be linux specific? >>>>>> >>>>> It is documented in OpenSBI. >>>>> https://github.com/riscv-software-src/opensbi/blob/master/docs/pmu_support.md >>>>> >>>>> Are you suggesting that any non-Linux specific DT nodes should be part >>>>> of Linux DT binding as well ? >>>> >>>> I thought the point was that they were *not* meant to be linux specific, >>>> just happening to be housed there. >>>> >>> >>> I'm not sure if there's an official policy on where DT nodes should be >>> specified, but it looks like Samuel's opinion is that they should live >>> in the Linux kernel, whether they're used there or not [1]. >>> >>> [1] http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/opensbi/2022-October/003522.html >> >> Yah, that was also my understanding. See also U-Boot moving to unify >> their custom bindings into the linux repo: >> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-devicetree/20220930001410.2802843-1-...@chromium.org/ >> > > This adds the U-Boot specific DT properties to the dts schema itself, > not Linux kernel DT bindings.
Yeah, sorry. I muddled things up a little there. My point was that they are trying to get to a stage where dt-validate and those tools work for them too. I'm not sure were I said "linux repo" rather than "dt-schema repo" when I double checked the file paths in the link before pasting it to make sure it was the dt-schema one.. I blame it being early. > I am not opposed to adding PMU DT bindings to Linux but there should > be a clear policy on this. > What about OpenSBI domain DT bindings ? > If every other DT based open source project starts adding their DT > binding to the Linux kernel, that may go downhill pretty soon. Maybe I am misunderstanding, but I had thought the goal was to get to user-independent bindings. Rob and Krzysztof certainly labour the point that the bindings should not reflect how one operating system's drivers would like to see them & u-boot or FreeBSD using a property is grounds for it not being removed from the bindings in the linux tree. I'll go and actually ask Rob.