On 3/9/22 12:51 PM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 11:43:48AM +0000, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
>> * Claudio Fontana (cfont...@suse.de) wrote:
>>> On 3/7/22 1:28 PM, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
>>>> * Claudio Fontana (cfont...@suse.de) wrote:
>>>>> On 3/7/22 1:20 PM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 07, 2022 at 01:09:55PM +0100, Claudio Fontana wrote:
>>>>>>> Got it, this explains it, sorry for the noise on this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll continue to investigate the general issue of low throughput with
>>>>>>> virsh save / qemu savevm .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, consider measuring with the --bypass-cache flag to virsh save.
>>>>>> This causes libvirt to use a I/O helper that uses O_DIRECT when
>>>>>> saving the image. This should give more predictable results by
>>>>>> avoiding the influence of host I/O cache which can be in a differnt
>>>>>> state of usage each time you measure. It was also intended that
>>>>>> by avoiding hitting cache, saving the memory image of a large VM
>>>>>> will not push other useful stuff out of host I/O cache which can
>>>>>> negatively impact other running VMs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also it is possible to configure compression on the libvirt side
>>>>>> which may be useful if you have spare CPU cycles, but your storage
>>>>>> is slow. See 'save_image_format' in the /etc/libvirt/qemu.conf
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Daniel, thanks for these good info,
>>>>>
>>>>> regarding slow storage, for these tests I am saving to /dev/null to avoid
>>>>> having to take storage into account
>>>>> (and still getting low bandwidth unfortunately) so I guess compression is
>>>>> out of the question.
>>>>
>>>> What type of speeds do you get if you try a migrate to a netcat socket?
>>>
>>> much faster apparently, 30 sec savevm vs 7 seconds for migration to a
>>> netcat socket sent to /dev/null.
>>>
>>> nc -l -U /tmp/savevm.socket
>>>
>>> virsh suspend centos7
>>> Domain centos7 suspended
>>>
>>> virsh qemu-monitor-command --cmd '{ "execute": "migrate", "arguments": {
>>> "uri": "unix:///tmp/savevm.socket" } }' centos7
>>>
>>> virt97:/mnt # virsh qemu-monitor-command --cmd '{ "execute":
>>> "query-migrate" }' centos7
>>> {"return":{"blocked":false,"status":"completed","setup-time":118,"downtime":257,"total-time":7524,"ram":{"total":32213049344,"postcopy-requests":0,"dirty-sync-count":3,"multifd-bytes":0,"pages-per-second":1057530,"page-size":4096,"remaining":0,"mbps":24215.572437483122,"transferred":22417172290,"duplicate":2407520,"dirty-pages-rate":0,"skipped":0,"normal-bytes":22351847424,"normal":5456994}},"id":"libvirt-438"}
>>>
>>> virt97:/mnt # virsh qemu-monitor-command --cmd '{ "execute":
>>> "query-migrate-parameters" }' centos7
>>> {"return":{"cpu-throttle-tailslow":false,"xbzrle-cache-size":67108864,"cpu-throttle-initial":20,"announce-max":550,"decompress-threads":2,"compress-threads":8,"compress-level":0,"multifd-channels":8,"multifd-zstd-level":1,"announce-initial":50,"block-incremental":false,"compress-wait-thread":true,"downtime-limit":300,"tls-authz":"","multifd-compression":"none","announce-rounds":5,"announce-step":100,"tls-creds":"","multifd-zlib-level":1,"max-cpu-throttle":99,"max-postcopy-bandwidth":0,"tls-hostname":"","throttle-trigger-threshold":50,"max-bandwidth":9223372036853727232,"x-checkpoint-delay":20000,"cpu-throttle-increment":10},"id":"libvirt-439"}
>>>
>>>
>>> I did also a run with multifd-channels:1 instead of 8, if it matters:
>>
>> I suspect you haven't actually got multifd enabled ( check
>> query-migrate-capabilities ?).
>>>
>>> virt97:/mnt # virsh qemu-monitor-command --cmd '{ "execute":
>>> "query-migrate" }' centos7
>>> {"return":{"blocked":false,"status":"completed","setup-time":119,"downtime":260,"total-time":8601,"ram":{"total":32213049344,"postcopy-requests":0,"dirty-sync-count":3,"multifd-bytes":0,"pages-per-second":908820,"page-size":4096,"remaining":0,"mbps":21141.861157274227,"transferred":22415264188,"duplicate":2407986,"dirty-pages-rate":0,"skipped":0,"normal-bytes":22349938688,"normal":5456528}},"id":"libvirt-453"}
>>>
>>> virt97:/mnt # virsh qemu-monitor-command --cmd '{ "execute":
>>> "query-migrate-parameters" }' centos7
>>> {"return":{"cpu-throttle-tailslow":false,"xbzrle-cache-size":67108864,"cpu-throttle-initial":20,"announce-max":550,"decompress-threads":2,"compress-threads":8,"compress-level":0,"multifd-channels":1,"multifd-zstd-level":1,"announce-initial":50,"block-incremental":false,"compress-wait-thread":true,"downtime-limit":300,"tls-authz":"","multifd-compression":"none","announce-rounds":5,"announce-step":100,"tls-creds":"","multifd-zlib-level":1,"max-cpu-throttle":99,"max-postcopy-bandwidth":0,"tls-hostname":"","throttle-trigger-threshold":50,"max-bandwidth":9223372036853727232,"x-checkpoint-delay":20000,"cpu-throttle-increment":10},"id":"libvirt-454"}
>>>
>>>
>>> Still we are in the 20 Gbps range, or around 2560 MiB/s, way faster than
>>> savevm which does around 600 MiB/s when the wind is in its favor..
>>
>> Yeh that's what I'd hope for off a decent CPU; hmm there's not that much
>> savevm specific is there?
>
> BTW, quick clarification here.
>
> IIUC, Claudio says the test is 'virsh save $VMNAME /some/file'. This
> is *not* running 'savevm' at the QEMU level. So it is a bit misleading
> refering to it as savevm in the thread here.
Thanks, this is a helpful clarification, I was wrongly assuming those were
linked.
Indeed the use case is virsh save.
>
> 'virsh save' is simply wired up to the normal QEMU 'migrate' commands,
> with libvirt giving QEMU a pre-opened FD, which libvirt processes the
> other end of to write out to disk.
>
> IOW, the performance delta is possibly on libvirt's side rather
> than QEMU's.
Interesting, also Ccing Jim on this, I'll continue to do more experiments.
>
> Regards,
> Daniel
>
