> Le 16 Jun 2020 à 19:10, Eduardo Habkost <ehabk...@redhat.com> a écrit :
> 
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 05:57:46PM +0100, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
>> * Gerd Hoffmann (kra...@redhat.com) wrote:
>>>  Hi,
>>> 
>>>> (a) We could rely in the guest physbits to calculate the PCI64 aperture.
>>> 
>>> I'd love to do that.  Move the 64-bit I/O window as high as possible and
>>> use -- say -- 25% of the physical address space for it.
>>> 
>>> Problem is we can't.
>>> 
>>>> failure. Also, if the users are not setting the physbits in the guest,
>>>> there must be a default (seems to be 40bit according to my experiments),
>>>> seems to be a good idea to rely on that.
>>> 
>>> Yes, 40 is the default, and it is used *even if the host supports less
>>> than that*.  Typical values I've seen for intel hardware are 36 and 39.
>>> 39 is used even by recent hardware (not the xeons, but check out a
>>> laptop or a nuc).
>>> 
>>>> If guest physbits is 40, why to have OVMF limiting it to 36, right?
>>> 
>>> Things will explode in case OVMF uses more physbits than the host
>>> supports (host physbits limit applies to ept too).  In other words: OVMF
>>> can't trust the guest physbits, so it is conservative to be on the safe
>>> side.
>>> 
>>> If we can somehow make a *trustable* physbits value available to the
>>> guest, then yes, we can go that route.  But the guest physbits we have
>>> today unfortunately don't cut it.
>> 
>> In downstream RH qemu, we run with host-physbits as default; so it's 
>> reasonably
>> trustworthy; of course that doesn't help you across a migration between
>> hosts with different sizes (e.g. an E5 Xeon to an E3).
>> Changing upstream to do the same would seem sensible to me, but it's not
>> a foolproof config.
> 
> Yeah, to make it really trustworthy we would need to prevent
> migration to hosts with mismatching phys sizes.

Wouldn't it be sufficient to prevent guestphysbits > hostphysbits?

>  We would need to
> communicate that to the guest somehow (with new hypervisor CPUID
> flags, maybe).
> 
> -- 
> Eduardo

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