On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 1:35 PM, Paolo Bonzini <pbonz...@redhat.com> wrote: > On 05/12/2017 13:06, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 05, 2017 at 02:33:13PM +0800, Yang Zhong wrote: >>> As you know, AWS has decided to switch to KVM in their clouds. This news >>> make almost all >>> china CSPs(clouds service provider) pay more attention on KVM/Qemu, >>> especially light VM >>> solution. >>> >>> Below are intel solution for light VM, qemu-lite. >>> http://events.linuxfoundation.org/sites/events/files/slides/Light%20weight%20virtualization%20with%20QEMU%26KVM_0.pdf >>> >>> My question is whether community has some plan to implement light VM or >>> alternative solutions? If no, whether our >>> qemu-lite solution is suitable for upstream again? Many thanks! >> >> What caused a lot of discussion and held back progress was the approach >> that was taken. The basic philosophy seems to be bypassing or >> special-casing components in order to avoid slow operations. This >> requires special QEMU, firmware, and/or guest kernel binaries and causes >> extra work for the management stack, distributions, and testers. > > I think having a special firmware (be it qboot or a special-purpose > SeaBIOS) is acceptable.
The work Marc Mari Barcelo did in 2015 showed that SeaBIOS can boot guests quickly. The guest kernel was entered in <35 milliseconds IIRC. Why is special firmware necessary? I'm not against additional binaries if there's no other way, but it's important to demonstrate why special-casing is necessary.