On 23/11/2017 13:39, Cornelia Huck wrote: > I'm wondering how many people want to run e.g. x86_64-on-x86_64 > _without_ using an available kvm (and I expect those people to > explicitly specify tcg).
I disagree. I expect them to be "power users" enough to know that qemu-system-x86_64 defaults to TCG. Another possibility is that users come here asking for help, we tell them to test qemu.git, and they are confused by the lack of a qemu-kvm binary. Ok, maybe not that likely, but it's a category which we want to have a smooth experience. >> And in fact that is the main reason why have never bothered switching >> the default... only RHEL does it, because it ships the QEMU binary as >> qemu-kvm rather than qemu-system-xxx plus a wrapper script. >> >> Perhaps we could: >> >> 1) look for "qemu-{kvm,hvf,hax}" in argv[0] and change the "-accel" default? >> >> 2) change "make install" to install one or more of qemu-kvm/hvf/hax >> based on target architecture and OS. >> >> Then distros can do away with the script and Windows/Mac users can learn >> to use qemu-hvf and qemu-hax. > > I'm not sure I like that. For me, qemu-kvm comes with the connotation > of "there used to be a fork of qemu for kvm usage, and we stuck with > the name because it is likely scattered through scripts". In theory I don't like it either (and I hadn't thought about it until today). In practice, qemu-kvm is not going away from blogs/scripts/tutorials in a decade, so we might as well embrace it... especially since it has fewer issues than the alternative and even some advantages: 1) scripts that hardcode qemu-system-x86_64 expecting to use TCG keep to work 2) it ensures that qemu-kvm works even for those who compile their own QEMU 3) it keeps behavior consistent across all qemu-system-* binaries 4) it reserves the unwieldy name for the thing that you don't want (think of "exit" vs "_exit" in the C library) 5) we don't have to think about including hax or hvf in the -accel default Paolo