On Wed, 07/05 13:58, Thomas Huth wrote: > On 05.07.2017 13:44, Fam Zheng wrote: > > On Wed, 07/05 12:04, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > >> While you can say people should just add '-M pc' that isn't a nice > >> user experiance, because it makes the assumption that people actually > >> understand what caused their breakage. When the incompatibilities > >> arise the error messages are unlikely to give any hint to users that > >> the problems are caused by the machine type change. So unless someone > >> is very familiar with debugging QEMU, they're not going to realize > >> that '-M pc' will fix their problem. > > > > While we change the default, can we start to print a message like 'machine > > type > > ("-M" option) not specified, default to Q35. If you find compatibility > > issues, > > try "-M pc"'? > > Or we could simply remove the default machine type completely for a > couple of releases? That would force people to update their script with > "-M pc" ... and once this has been established, we can finally make q35 > the default?
I wouldn't do that.. Defaults are for those who don't care about setting it, or want something that just works, by default. It's fine not to provide a default machine type if we decide there isn't a clear win, just like arm, but IMHO removing it just to restore it later in order to educate people makes a very poor experience. Fam