On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 04:14:36AM -0400, Vadim Rozenfeld wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gleb Natapov" <g...@redhat.com> > To: "Vadim Rozenfeld" <vroze...@redhat.com> > Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <m...@redhat.com>, "Daniel P. Berrange" > <berra...@redhat.com>, "Marcel Apfelbaum" <marce...@redhat.com>, > seab...@seabios.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Gerd Hoffmann" > <kra...@redhat.com>, "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonz...@redhat.com>, "Eric Blake" > <ebl...@redhat.com>, "Andreas Färber" <afaer...@suse.de> > Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2013 6:05:27 PM > Subject: Re: [SeaBIOS] [PATCH] don't expose pvpanic device in the UI > > On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 04:03:17AM -0400, Vadim Rozenfeld wrote: > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gleb Natapov" <g...@redhat.com> > > To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <m...@redhat.com> > > Cc: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berra...@redhat.com>, "Marcel Apfelbaum" > > <marce...@redhat.com>, seab...@seabios.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Gerd > > Hoffmann" <kra...@redhat.com>, "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonz...@redhat.com>, "Eric > > Blake" <ebl...@redhat.com>, "Andreas Färber" <afaer...@suse.de> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2013 5:34:06 PM > > Subject: Re: [SeaBIOS] [PATCH] don't expose pvpanic device in the UI > > > > On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 09:32:18PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > > > > As you see we do let people change many parameters > > > > > that do affect activation. > > > > By editing XML user can shoot himself in the foot, we should not prevent > > > > that. > > > > > > So that's what I'm saying basically. > > > At the moment there's no way to remove this device from XML. > > > That's just wrong. > > Can say the same about PV acpi hotpulg device. > > > > > In QEMU, we have a standard way to specify devices with -device. > > > That should be the interface for anything new really > > > unless there's a very compelling reason for something else. > > We are disagree on compelling reason in this case obviously. > > > > > *Not* building it into the PC machine type. > > > > > > > It should not be required though. > > > > > > libvirt can pass -device pvpanic by default if nothing > > > is specified in XML. That discussion really has to happen > > > on libvirt list. > > > > > As Paolo said you are just pushing the "problem" up the stack > > where it is harder to "solve". I put "problem" and "solve" in > > quotes because I disagree that the problem that need to be solved > > is identified correctly. The correct problem to be solved IMO is > > writing Windows driver for the device. > > > > [VR] > > This one shouldn't be too complicated. Can be done on weekend. > Gal says he did it already. > > [VR] > If so, we can add it to our build and make it public. > That's the plan :)
-- Gleb.