Anthony Liguori <anth...@codemonkey.ws> writes: > "Michael S. Tsirkin" <m...@redhat.com> writes: > >> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 04:56:05PM +0200, Andreas Färber wrote: >>> Am 25.07.2013 16:52, schrieb Michael S. Tsirkin: >>> > On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 08:28:00AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote: >>> >> We have a pretty awful legacy command line set that comes from years of >>> >> half-baked concepts and the years when too many people just committed >>> >> random shit to the tree. >>> >> >>> >> I think we probably need to start planning for a clean break. Maybe >>> >> that's a good target for a 2.0 version... >>> > >>> > Assuming -netdev supports all required configurations, we should >>> > remove -net from the -help output. >>> >>> Peter had raised the issue of -netdev not working well with boards that >>> already supply a default NIC - was there a solution yet? >>> >>> Andreas >> >> Whoever is removing -net will have to code that up. Want to do this? > > I would not rush to remove things. If we're going to go through a > deprecation process, we should start with a proposal on what things > should be removed and go from there. > > I still don't even think -netdev is the right answer here either. > Wouldn't it make more sense to have something like: > > qemu -vnic tap,script=/foo/myscript > > Or something vaguely understandable by a human?
OK. It seems to me that each net device has a host side and a guest side, which you can mix and match. So the commandline should reflect that explicitly: qemu -hostdev net,[tap|user|bridge|socket|vde],.... -guestdev net,.... If you have a built-in net device on your emulated board, you've got one implied -guestdev net. And similar principles apply to other things like consoles and disks. Now, guest and host terms may suck. But please pick one terminology and use it *everywhere*. Documentation, code and cmdline. Thanks, Rusty.