On Mon, Aug 11, 2025 at 05:26:05PM -0400, Jonah Palmer wrote: > This effort was started to reduce the guest visible downtime by > virtio-net/vhost-net/vhost-vDPA during live migration, especially > vhost-vDPA. > > The downtime contributed by vhost-vDPA, for example, is not from having to > migrate a lot of state but rather expensive backend control-plane latency > like CVQ configurations (e.g. MQ queue pairs, RSS, MAC/VLAN filters, offload > settings, MTU, etc.). Doing this requires kernel/HW NIC operations which > dominates its downtime. > > In other words, by migrating the state of virtio-net early (before the > stop-and-copy phase), we can also start staging backend configurations, > which is the main contributor of downtime when migrating a vhost-vDPA > device. > > I apologize if this series gives the impression that we're migrating a lot > of data here. It's more along the lines of moving control-plane latency out > of the stop-and-copy phase.
I see, thanks. Please add these into the cover letter of the next post. IMHO it's extremely important information to explain the real goal of this work. I bet it is not expected for most people when reading the current cover letter. Then it could have nothing to do with iterative phase, am I right? What are the data needed for the dest QEMU to start staging backend configurations to the HWs underneath? Does dest QEMU already have them in the cmdlines? Asking this because I want to know whether it can be done completely without src QEMU at all, e.g. when dest QEMU starts. If src QEMU's data is still needed, please also first consider providing such facility using an "early VMSD" if it is ever possible: feel free to refer to commit 3b95a71b22827d26178. So the data to be transferred is still in VMSD form, aka, data are still described by VMSD macros, instead of hard-coded streamline protocols using e.g. qemufile APIs using save_setup()/load_setup(). When things are described in VMSDs, it get the most benefit from the live migration framework, and it's much, much more flexible. It's the most suggested way for device to cooperate with live migration, savevmhandlers are only the last resort because it's almost not in control of migration.. In short, please avoid using savevmhandlers as long as there can be any other way to achieve similar results. Thanks, -- Peter Xu
