On Tue, Sep 2, 2025 at 11:18 AM Jan Kiszka <jan.kis...@siemens.com> wrote:

> On 02.09.25 19:07, Warner Losh wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 2, 2025 at 10:49 AM Jan Lübbe <j...@pengutronix.de
> > <mailto:j...@pengutronix.de>> wrote:
> >
> >     On Tue, 2025-09-02 at 18:39 +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> >     > > > I expect us to be safe and able to deal with non-pow2 regions
> >     if we use
> >     > > > QEMUSGList from the "system/dma.h" API. But this is a rework
> >     nobody had
> >     > > > time to do so far.
> >     > >
> >     > > We have to tell two things apart: partitions sizes on the one
> >     side and
> >     > > backing storage sizes. The partitions sizes are (to my reading)
> >     clearly
> >     > > defined in the spec, and the user partition (alone!) has to be
> >     power of
> >     > > 2. The boot and RPMB partitions are multiples of 128K. The sum
> >     of them
> >     > > all is nowhere limited to power of 2 or even only multiples of
> 128K.
> >     > >
> >     >
> >     > Re-reading the part of the device capacity, the rules are more
> >     complex:
> >     >  - power of two up to 2 GB
> >     >  - multiple of 512 bytes beyond that
> >     >
> >     > So that power-of-two enforcement was and still is likely too
> strict.
> >
> >
> > It is. Version 0 (and MMC) cards had the capacity encoded like so:
> >                 m = mmc_get_bits(raw_csd, 128, 62, 12);
> >                 e = mmc_get_bits(raw_csd, 128, 47, 3);
> >                 csd->capacity = ((1 + m) << (e + 2)) * csd->read_bl_len;
> > so any card less than 2GB (well, technically 4GB, but 4GB version 0
> > cards were
> > rare and broke some stacks... I have one and I love it on my embedded
> > ARM board
> > that can't do version 1 cards). Version 1 cards encoded it like:
> >                 csd->capacity = ((uint64_t)mmc_get_bits(raw_csd, 128,
> > 48, 22) +
> >                     1) * 512 * 1024;
> > So it's a multiple of 512k. These are also called 'high capacity' cards.
> >
> > Version 4 introduces an extended CSD, which had a pure sector count in
> > the EXT CSD. I think this
> > is only for MMC cards. And also the partition information.
> >
> >
> >     > But I still see no indication, neither in the existing eMMC code
> >     of QEMU
> >     > nor the spec, that the boot and RPMB partition sizes are included
> >     in that.
> >
> >     Correct. Non-power-of-two sizes are very common for real eMMCs.
> >     Taking a random
> >     one from our lab:
> >     [    1.220588] mmcblk1: mmc1:0001 S0J56X 14.8 GiB
> >     [    1.228055]  mmcblk1: p1 p2 p3 p4
> >     [    1.230375] mmcblk1boot0: mmc1:0001 S0J56X 31.5 MiB
> >     [    1.233651] mmcblk1boot1: mmc1:0001 S0J56X 31.5 MiB
> >     [    1.236682] mmcblk1rpmb: mmc1:0001 S0J56X 4.00 MiB, chardev
> (244:0)
> >
> >     For eMMCs using MLC NAND, you can also configure part of the user
> >     data area to
> >     be pSLC (pseudo single level cell), which changes the available
> >     capacity (after
> >     a required power cycle).
> >
> >
> > Yes. Extended partitions are a feature of version 4 cards, so don't have
> > power-of-2 limits since they are a pure sector count in the ext_csd.
> >
>
> JESD84-B51A (eMMC 5.1A):
>
> "The C_SIZE parameter is used to compute the device capacity for devices
> up to 2 GB of density. See 7.4.52, SEC_COUNT [215:212] , for details on
> calculating densities greater than 2 GB."
>
> So I would now continue to enforce power-of-2 for 2G (including) cards,
> and relax to multiples of 512 for larger ones.
>

It's a multiple of 512k unless the card has a ext_csd, in which case it's a
multiple of 512.

Warner

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