On 7 December 2016 at 21:14, John Lee <j...@pobox.com> wrote:

> Having been on this list since 2004 I *think* I'm right in saying that
> there have never been sharp words on any subject EXCEPT recruiters.
>
> So though I've defended recruiters here before, and posted job ads myself,
> I think we should consider the possibility that all that's needed is to not
> allow job ads (or not allow recruiters if you like -- but I think
> simplicity is a virtue here).  Then rogue job ads can be responded to on
> that strictly technical basis, and there will be fewer ads to cause strife
> in the first place.


Seconded. This issue seems to be the largest source of disharmony by a wide
margin, and I'd be in favour of writing up a specific rule, as there seem
to be many different interpretations of the status quo.

General options:
1./ No recruitment messages of any kind
2./ Only developers may post recruitment messages (they must have some
association with the position)
3./ Any recruitment messages are allowed

Personally, I'd be in favour of #2 - it allows the community to promote
positions internally, but avoids recruiter-mails which seem to trigger so
much ire.

As Steve pointed out, enforcement would be the next problem -- I've seen
this over and over on forums. Perhaps a large-ish number of list mods (10
or so), and discourage enforcement-en-mass?


Finally, we need to advertise the CoC & any new rules clearly to new
subscribers and/or first-time posters.
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