You know, if you started writing a stand alone module called pythonanywhere that has no dependencies and was imported and used by Django, Tornado, and any of the other bits and pieces I think you might find a *few *things to put in there...
Not that I have any knowledge of that code base, of course ;-) On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Harry Percival <harry.perci...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Peter! I was speaking to Brandon at Pycon this year and he was > telling me this was going to be his next talk to take on the road, and I > was definitely looking forward to seeing it. Matt O'Donnell was also > there, and he's done a talk on this sort of thing recently too ( > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGhL7IA6Dik). It's definitely in the air. > > My own modest attempts to approach the subject are in my book -- in > chapter 19, where I show how striving for test isolation can > (theoretically) push you towards something like a lean architecture ( > http://chimera.labs.oreilly.com/books/1234000000754/ch19.html) and in > chapter 21, the wrap-up, where I waffle on about all these things ( > http://chimera.labs.oreilly.com/books/1234000000754/ch22.html) > > I don't think I managed to broach the subject nearly as cleanly as Brandon > did. I really admire his talks. His data structures talk was one of the > top 3 I saw at Pycon this year ( > http://pyvideo.org/video/2571/all-your-ducks-in-a-row-data-structures-in-the-s). > Perfect pace, slides that complement rather than repeat the talk, > fascinating and useful content... > > Anyways, back to our onions - I guess the thing that's always bothered me > a bit about the "clean architecture" is that my main project > (pythonanywhere) is "all boundaries", to use Gary Bernhardt's terminology. > Or, to put it differently, I don't think we really have much in the way of > "business logic". We just turn Http requests into commands that go to > processes. There's really not much in the way of "logic" in the way. No > calculations or business rules to speak of. So it's never seemed worth it, > to us. > > And sometimes I think -- aren't many web projects just thin CRUD wrappers > around a database? Is going to all the trouble of isolating your business > logic from, eg, django, really worth it in most cases? > > > > > On 13 August 2014 13:09, Daniel Pope <lord.ma...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Coincidentally, I blogged on the topic of Django project organisation at >> the weekend. >> >> http://mauveweb.co.uk/posts/2014/08/organising-django-projects.html >> >> May be of interest? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> python-uk mailing list >> python-uk@python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk >> >> > > > -- > ------------------------------ > Harry J.W. Percival > ------------------------------ > Twitter: @hjwp > Mobile: +44 (0) 78877 02511 > Skype: harry.percival > > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > > -- Hansel
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