Hi Simon,
It might be of use to you to know that the decorator syntax is actually a
syntactic shortcut for a longer way of writing the same thing.
For instance,
@mydecorator
def foo(a, b):
pass
is identical to
def foo(a, b):
pass
foo = mydecorator(foo)
If you wanted to only apply the decorator at certain times, you could call the
decorator directly when you need it. There'd be a bit of overhead since you're
re-running the decorator function each time, but I'll leave it to you to decide
whether that's a problem for your use case.
For example:
foo(1, 2) # runs without decoration
mydecorator(foo)(1, 2) # runs with decoration
You could expand this further, for instance your decorator could expose the
original function so you don't have to keep on re-running the decorator.
decoratedfoo = mydecorator(foo) # create decorated function
decoratedfoo(1, 2) # run decorated function
decoratedfoo.orig(1, 2) # run original function
Hope that helps,
Nick
On Wed, Apr 03, 2013 at 06:42:02PM +0100, Simon Yarde wrote:
> This may well be moot, so thank you for chipping in. All your suggestions
> are completely valid and practical.
>
> And thank you Stestagg and a.cavallo for commenting on references; I've tried
> to show in the examples below how the instance might be used to store config
> that is accessed by instance-methods, so external access was not an issue for
> the scenario I was envisaging.
>
> I'm interested in decorator-methods that can be employed in different
> scenarios; as 'python decorators'; and using a decorator-pattern for dynamic
> decoration of callables.
>
> The grammar seems to preclude such flexibility, and a certain elegance.
>
> I'll try to set-out a possible flexible design-pattern that shows the same
> decorator-method employed flexibly, and where it becomes inelegant or
> unintuitive.
>
> This works:
>
> def f():
> pass
>
> f = A('foo').some_process(f)
>
> This 'could' work, where it not for grammar inconsistency:
>
> @A('foo').some_process
> def f():
> pass
>
> The same pattern enables dynamic decoration using different instances of A:
>
> @apply_some_process_from_one_of_these_at_random(
> A('foo'),
> A('bar')
> )
> def f():
> pass
>
> > You could do this by making decorator_method a classmethod:
> >
> > @MyDecorator.decorate_this(foo)
>
>
> Using a class-method, I would have to name the method I wanted to call and
> supply initialisation at the same time, and return a configured callable to
> perform the desired process:
>
> @apply_some_process_from_one_of_these_at_random(
> A.some_process('foo')
> A.some_process('bar')
> )
>
> It's attractive not to have to name the process to be called at
> configuration, and to be able to store configuration in the instance (this
> works):
>
> @apply_an_arbitrary_process_from(
> A('foo')
> )
>
> and it would be elegant/consistent to be able to apply a process using the
> decorator-syntax if need be (this doesn't work because of the grammar):
>
> @A('foo').some_other_process
>
>
> On 3 Apr 2013, at 12:43, Stestagg wrote:
>
> > This seems redundant to me, the MyDecorator instance would not be bound to
> > anything, so you'll 'loose' the reference to it, except through the call to
> > decorator_method().
> >
> > You could do this by making decorator_method a classmethod:
> >
> > class MyDecorator(object):
> >
> > @classmethod
> > def decorate_this(cls, ...):
> > pass
> >
> > allowing you to use it:
> >
> > @MyDecorator.decorate_this(foo)
> >
> > If your intent is to pass arguments to the MyDecorator instance, just pass
> > them to the decorator method directly.
> >
> > Finally, if you're trying to implement singleton like behaviour. (a
> > registry etc..) then using your example of binding an instance of
> > MyDecorator() to a module-level name is sensible.
> >
> > MY_REGISTRY = MyDecorator()
> >
> > @MY_REGISTRY.decoate_this()
> > def wrapped():
> > ...
> >
> > Does your use-case match any of these?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Simon Yarde <simonya...@me.com> wrote:
> > Hi All
> >
> > I've not posted to this list before. Hello!
> >
> > I have a question about decorators and have failed to devise a search that
> > has thrown up any history of discussion on this particular matter.
> >
> > Does the following seem like something that 'should' work? Or is anyone
> > aware of a source of documentation that explains historically why the
> > following syntax might not be allowed?
> >
> > I hope this sort of conundrum/discussion-point is appropriate to this
> > forum; I'm not on python-dev and this is obviously not a bug.
> >
> > So..
> >
> > Decorator grammar is this:
> >
> > decorator: '@' dotted_name [ '(' [arglist] ')' ] NEWLINE
> >
> > The grammar prevents this:
> >
> > >>> class MyDecorator:
> > ... def decorator_method():
> > ... pass
> > ...
> > >>> @MyDecorator().decorator_method()
> > File "<stdin>", line 1
> > @MyDecorator().decorator_method()
> > ^
> > SyntaxError: invalid syntax
> >
> > But is possible to achieve the desired effect by assigning the class
> > instance to variable:
> >
> > >>> mydecorator = MyDecorator()
> > ... @mydecorator.decorator_method
> > ... def f():
> >
> >
> > My initial thoughts were that the syntax provided a neat way to provide a
> > configurable decorator class instance with a number of alternative
> > decorator-function generating methods, rather than just the usual __call__.
> >
> > S
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