In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gary Duzan) wrote:

>   I understand that the school switched [from C++] to Java a short
> time later,  which is some improvement, but still has a good bit of
> baggage.

Java started out trying to avoid most of the complexities of C++, but 
ended up having to reintroduce many of them anyway.

>p.s. Then sock them with ML or Haskell to weed out the weak ones. ;-)
>     Then if they survive Occam, throw Java at them, so they'll
>     know what they are missing but can still get a job...

And yet, because they didn't start with Java, they'll still have the 
ability to think. Which is bound to annoy PHBs out in the "real" world 
...
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