Michael Tobis wrote: > > That said, and conceding that the first impression is positive, I don't > see how it represents Python. More to the point, the longer I look at > it the less I like it, and I would NOT wear it on a T-shirt. >
over 25 people disagree with you so far and thats without any advertising whatsoever (and it's an older version of the logo) because you can get T-Shirts from cafepress.com/pydotorg and any profits go to the psf. I'll add the new logo over the weekend. > >>The + formation is positive enough, and it has a yin-yang >>feel to it which to me conjures up the image of balance, not >>divisiveness. > > Both the cross and the yin-yang have religious associations, which will > be positive for some and negative for others but will certainly be > unrepresentative of what Python is. This would be a great logo for > Taoist Christians, if such a group exists. > > How is Python about "balance"? It is about abstraction, composition, > the whole greater than the parts, yes, but there's nothing there that > really draws on duality. So the whole two-ness of the thing is one of > the parts that disturbs me. > They're freindly snakes at a tadpole fancy dress competition having a 'cuddle'. Where do you think Python eggs come from... Tim Parkin p.s. the logo is actually based on mayan representations of snakes which very often represent only the head and perhaps a short length of tail. The structure of the snake representations the natural coiling/nesting of a snake as seen side on.. The following image shows a similar representation (we have a snake house nearby which makes it easier to observe behaviour) http://www.xcalak.info/images/florafauna/fer_de_lance_l.jpg The mesoamerican calendar also represents snake heads in a similar manner. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tzolkin The abstraction of the snake design used in mayan culture seemed non-denominational enough to only raise contrived objections. The shapes used (cross/spiral/yin-yang) are also primitive enough that there will always be connotations that can be derived. http://www.alovelyworld.com/webhon/gimage/hdu011.jpg http://www.khoahoc.com.vn/photos/Image/2005/11/16/maya-snake.jpg http://www.xcalak.info/images/florafauna/fer_de_lance_l.jpg The two headed snake was also an influence on the design http://www-personal.umich.edu/~bjayatil/British%20Museum%20&%20London/slides/17-aztec_snake.html which is also a common 'meme' in many continents, including africa http://www.sfu.ca/archaeology/museum/ndi/cam5.jpg And I'd like to see you tell a civil war soldier that it looks like his trousers are held up by a two headed tadpole http://www.civilwarrelics.com/museum/graphics/Frame25a.JPG If you look carefully at the logo, you will also see an indian symbol of peace.. (I'll leave this one alone as it can also mean something else). -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list